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Originally Posted by
timeliness
I disagree with calling it loser mentality when it’s just preferences on how one spends money.
On the flip side, bros with deeper pockets can afford to spend 1k or even 2k on local ladies without a care, doesn’t mean they have to spend it in MBS to be having a “winner mentality”.
If you’re really that keen to quit, spend your money elsewhere on another hobby to limit your spending on finding ladies as a hobby, simple as that.
Unless you have deep pockets with zero financial discipline, that is.
The thing bros who spend 1/2k on local fl will be spending 5 digits on mbs lol
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Originally Posted by
timeliness
That’s a very narrow way of looking at things. People can save $500/month and look for a local FL every other month.
Spending 1k on local FL doesn’t mean spending 5 figures at casino. What if the bro doesn’t visit casinos at all? Everyone has their own vices, my point being, no need to impose your own “loser or winner” mentality on others.
Yup you are absolutely right. My argument is flawed - I apologize.
I was simply looking at a small microcosm of high rollers and extrapolating their behaviour to the general population.
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Originally Posted by
catlord
Dude… You need sex but you don’t like doing paid sex. To me there’s only 1 solution. Give me a straight answer here, what’s stopping you from getting on tinder or talking to girls in school/social circles to find non-paid sex partners?
Bro I already said it in a previous reply. Im an average looking guy. You should know how brutal and cutthroat online dating is for average looking joes. I will probably have to settle for a 5/10 girl which I probably cant bring myself to….
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Originally Posted by
Feilong
Bro I fucked up today and commited the cardinal sin of rawing an FL. Should I get on HIV PEP asap?
Hi bro, first of all, HIV transmission is very low even if shes infected. That being said, low probability does not mean zero probability, so we need to assess how fucked you are.
Question 1- What type of FL did you visit? The high-end escort types or the low end budget third world country type? If its the latter, higher chances of HIV since they are more ignorant/uneducated and are probably in this line back home.
Question 2- Does she regularly offer raw? Of course logically speaking, the more men she raws the higher the chances of stds. Did you perhaps visit the FLs in dome 1 where some of them explicitly offers raw? If you did visit those cum dumpsters, you are probably fucked. Even if you dont get HIV, you are at risk of other stds. I suggest doing a full check up.
Question 3- Is she high mileage or low mileage? Again, if she is young and new to the line, less chances of getting.
You seem quite paranoid after this experience so i suggest not doing stupid shit like this again.
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Originally Posted by
2Fast4Lust
His Religion say can go pia pia gor sam sia chicken meh… he also do…
Marry liao also continue one this hobby one la…
Being a married man, age takes away all looks and hotness as time goes by… its an inevitable passage of life. I got hitched to my wife while she was flying in SQ while she was being constantly tried on every flew flights, age is taking a toll not just on her but on me as well. the thrill of hunting different pussies and bodies will not be satisfied by 1 single hot woman/man.
If you’re in this forum scrolling and booking, religion means no shit to you, in fact it makes you even more hypocritical than an atheist.
Nah im not hypocritical. In the context of this case, hypocritical means bonking FLs and thinking its alright, even when my beliefs say otherwise. For me, i know this lifestyle is wrong and I want to quit but cant. Its more of moral failure/human weakness, but not exactly hypocrisy
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Originally Posted by
Feilong
Quite low end - 160/2 shot kind. The stable does not explicitly offer raw and I believe that she does not offer it to everyone. I believe she’s in her late 20’s - early 30’s.
She did also prevented me from CIP. So I guess it means she’s not the damn jialat cum dumpster kind?
Yeah never gonna do this again man. I just got my pep pills. Burnt $1300 in my pocket. Stay safe and rational bros
P.S you mentioned that you rawed with an fl once. Did you do anything about it?
Guessed you went private given the exorbitant cost.
For my case she was young and told me she does regular testing(shes educated and speaks english), so wasnt very worried. No symptoms for the next few weeks so I assumed im safe.
Honestly there are probably more people who win 4D before than there are HIV-positive people. If I kena ill just take it as a sign from the universe to end my life lol.
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Originally Posted by
Feilong
Ya I went straight to the nearest clinic at 830 am - coz time is not on my side
Anw I wish you the best in your journey towards quitting man - I’m done
Wa i see your account since 2011… A decade of chionging and u decided to quit? What happened bro. You should also share your story like me, maybe can inspire and encourage other bros here.
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Originally Posted by
tomyumgong
good sharing. I am still stuck. many years in FL/ML scene. I quitted that. But stuck with FwB/SB/Sd type of relationship liao. Worse I think. more money spent. but probably less risk for STD… I dunno..it corrupts your morale and slowly think this is norm. it is ok. I am fine even if my kid is doing it. I guess I can only stop when I am old and no energy + no money. haha
Yup this lifestyle definitely corrupts the mind and soul. I still remember in NS i used to mock guys who go to geylang for patronising third world villager cum dumpsters.
Never in a million years would I have expected to be in this situation. It really desensitizes you and make you numb to it all.
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Originally Posted by
Feilong
I’m an average guy like yourself tbh. Don’t really have any issues personally getting 6-7s/10 girls, with the occasional 8/10 if I’m lucky. Just that the effort and financial resources you’ll need to commit often equals or far exceed that of spending on FLs.
FLs to me are just a quick and easy fix of dopamine - akin to watch porn for instant gratification. Think u also mention that you became more lax in your pursuits after u start cheonging, and has certainly increased the tendency of me taking the easy way out for most things in life.
Was already aware of the impact that it had on my life, but didn’t have the willpower to quit. I guess this potential STD/HIV scare that happened to me will be the force that push me to quit ba.
I think it is possible for certain bros to be able to treat this as just a hobby without much impact to their lives. But for most common folk, it actually does more damage than harm -
The scary thing is that most people won’t even realise the harm that it has on their lives unless they really reflect on the net expected value cheonging brings to their life
Well said bro. Quick and easy dopamine fixes makes a man weak and easily contented. It takes away our innate drive to achieve greater heights.
Just curious though, you said u paid $160 for 2 shots which sounds like quite a poor quality bonk. How did you even enjoy it?
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Originally Posted by
Feilong
To add on, I have at least 10+ bros dming me to share the contact of the FL who rawed with me - really shows that those who are in too deep engage in self destructive behavior, some of whom don’t even realise it
Very sad to see. They dont see how low they have fallen. They fall so deep down this lifestyle that their mind and soul has been severely corrupted. This is not normal behaviour at all. It is highly deviant and destructive. Like those upskirters from sbf who have been so desensitized they start to rationalize their behaviour as normal and begin to compulsively act on their urges.
The fact that they chose to PM you instead of asking directly on the thread shows that they are cowards. They know their behaviour is disgusting and dangerous but dont dare to openly admit in this forum.