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Originally Posted by
WILHD
I think you should have given her the full pay as a “rejection cost” as it would have helped her hardship without soiling her this time, and you would have made a break and thought deeply about who really profits from this trade (not you, not her), but I know it’s hard to fight that lust and that perspective only comes in the moment after, I am not judging you bro.
Then you are either truly maganimous or filty rich bro. Not many people here will pay a ML $120 after being scammed by her photos as a rejection fee.
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Originally Posted by
donut88
Glad to know that u know that u have unrealistic expectations
Always rem. The porn whole doesn’t exist in real world.
In real world, u can get average looking gal who’s hot in bed. U can also get a hot looking gal who’s a dead fish in bed.
The question is how long can u last in porn world?
U will have to wake up one day and face the reality.
To know the porn world is one thing, but to be addicted to it is a serious matter.
It destroys your youth and perception of the real life.
This is very true. My generation grew up in a social media world with easy access to porn. Totally screwed up my perception of female beauty. Sometimes even when i visit ML/FL also cant get hard lol.
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Originally Posted by
EtherC
If commercial sex is such a great evil why is it still prevalent in over 20 countries?
Historically there will be 20-30% of the male population who will not get married and those who will not get sex from women ever. This is a danger to society unless managed properly. No amount of religious intervention will curb sex drive. We can see this clearly in the Catholic church with those reports of predatory clergymen in schools / churches & in Tibetan 双修 where unsuspecting young women were raped thinking they were guided on the path to enlightenment. What happened to TS was that he was in a sexual vacuum & he was overwhelmed and consumed by the sexual experience. Thats why some well meaning oldtimers always emphasize commercial sex as a high risk activity that shouldn’t be taken lightly and you need to approach it with caution & discipline. Will there be potholes aong the way? Of course, life is uncertain. Raw is war , as you have no doubt seen the mantra in this forum. If you can get off social media , porn, sex forums & commercial sex, it may give you sufficient motivation to find a partner. There’s a caveat though- women don’t like desperate men. You can be horny but if you are desperate they can sense it and it puts them off. Thats where commercial sex comes in to help quench that thirst a little. And if you ask the ladies they do not like philanderers but they would not prefer their men to be virgins either.
Going by your logic, why is drugs, war, rape, famine and general human suffering so prevalent? Does this mean that all the aforementioned are not evil? Commercial sex is prevalent due to human nature. It will always exist as long as human exist, and as such the government chose to regulate it in licensed brothels, which is a much better alternative than letting it run underground unregulated.
Whether commercial sex is a moral activity is a different subject altogether - one which can be extensively debated based on societal norms, various schools of philosophical thought, and different religious ideologies. Since this is a sex forum，let’s not go there.
But never confuse morality with legality and the prevalance of said activity. That’s an erroneous logical flaw.
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Originally Posted by
leakypipes
Of all the replies here, yours touch me the most. I wish you all the best.
As for bro Regretfulman - seriously, don’t come back here if you have resolved to leave. I was about to pen something fairly nasty and unsupportive but since you are young and trying to make a better path, then lai, uncle also support you.
Sorry to clarify - this post is an AMA so i will be replying to people here. I will also be using this thread to document my journey to share to other brothers here who may have the same experience.
Feel free to write what you feel in your heart bro. I wont get offended. Its good to have different perspectives and a civil discussion. This is also the purpose of the AMA. To reply to other perspectives.
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Originally Posted by
entering
My situation was a bit different. I had a good wife. We fucked almost everyday. Then my 4th daughter passed away. The grief, the guilt, made us both decided we don’t want sex with each other anymore. I still love my wife but the depression I had, was suicidal.
I wrote before. I was going to kill myself. I did my will, LPOA, signed the organ donation form, then I was already going to commit suicide. But after a session with a a maid, who at the time was a 9/10 for me, I started to realised that anything I wanted, God gave it to me.
I wanted money, I got it. I’ve a good family, I’ve travelled for 10 years for work, and one of the things I lacked was girls. Before I decided to die, I prayed and asked, “if I’m going to die, then better I fulfill wishes that all men desired, before I go to hell.” But amazingly, I recovered from depression instead.
I guess, everyone has a different story. Some say sex is an addiction. But for some like me, it’s empowerment and a reminder that whatever I believed I’ll get, I will.
There’s no one size fits all. Even if you put your $100 in a stock, also doesn’t mean you’ll come out of it richer. Cuz portfolios can also fall to zero.
No offence to any bros especially Regretfulman. Just my 2 cents worth.
And Regretfulman bro, all the best to you too.
Sorry bro i dont quite catch your story - can clarify?
So you cured your depression by fucking a maid? If one day your wife finds out and leave with your kids you will still be happy?
A simple analogy - a poor man is depressed and decides to rob a bank of $100mil. Having succeeded the first time, he then tries to rob another bank for $200mil. This time he gets caught and spends life in imprisonment and falls back to depression.
In the above scenario, would you consider robbing a bank a good moral activity that should be encouraged?
Genuinely confused with your story lol
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Originally Posted by
leakypipes
ok, then.
I feel that you will be back into chionging. Maybe in 5 years, or 10. I hope to be proven wrong.
At your age, your conviction is strong. The world will keep testing your conviction. And it will push you and break you down. Your faith will not be spared. In your toughest moments, you WILL think about chionging. Maybe having this post here will remind you why you got out.
OR, it will help to push you back into the scene.
Also, your views on chiongsters will also change. Not all of us are totally depraved. Sex is a need to be fulfilled, and we cannot get that in our marriage/rs. You can ask what we will do if we get caught. We ask ourselves that every time. And we hope that the plans we have in place work. Until they don’t.
I am not trying to be unsupportive. But I am very skeptical. And over the years, I have seen many guys fall back into the scene. Often, they take a big blow and they fall over the edge in the worst ways. I hope this does not happen you ah.
All the best.
Valid assumption that I will be back to chionging. Its been a few days and its FUCKING HARD to control the temptation.
But the difficulty of overcoming this addiction is not an excuse for me. Its like going to a drug addict and saying " I’ve seen 9 out of 10 drug addicts relapse, dont bother going clean".
Anyways if i do relapse ill let you guys know here in this thread. Full accountability.
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Originally Posted by
curious11
don’t mean to hijack bro but u said u have a hot wife but you yourself dunno why u go out and eat?
my wife used to be ok looking, after giving birth become sumo. snack and supper non stop. i always had a thing for fit looking girls or at least girls that look after themselves. am also thinking of enjoying out with some nicer looking girls. i myself workout so am in reasonably good shape.
so i do envy you as you have a hot wife and maybe if i’m in your shoes, i may not be looking to explore out so often as i’m currently doing. having said that, i’ve only been out for ML and so far no FLs. have not brought myself to do commercial sex… yet. always feel like need to have some connection to enjoy sex instead of just paying to get laid.
Recommend going for a full blood test. Sometimes obesity due to bad hormones. But ya, if lazy , dont exercise and watch diet then bo bian.
Be careful of trying FL bro. Once you get a taste of hot young syts, you can never ever get a hard on and bang your wife ever again lol.
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Originally Posted by
sadsea
Now u regret chionging. Next time u will regret married and may chiong again. 😂
To live is to suffer haha
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Originally Posted by
sadsea
Agreed!
TS just a young man. Seeing this just like seeing the past. Nevertheless still support his will to quit.
So sad, everybody thinks i will fail.
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But given the low quality of the market right now, i think got high chance can succeed hehe.
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Originally Posted by
BushTracker
Sorry. If you said it was your last day here, why do you still come back in and response to comments? Can’t let go?
Go see my previous comment. This is an AMA where i will reply to people. I will also be updating this thread on my journey to recovery(i.e if i relapse/how i feel etc).
Its quite a therapeutic process where i get to self reflect and internalize my feelings, rather than keeping it all bottled up inside.
The title is a technical error. What i mean to say is “My last day of chionging ML/FL”