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You sent me a PM titled “mango and who” with the above message “who u raw?”.
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I told you i wouldnt reveal as you would probably want to raw them yourself.
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You suddenly twist the story and mentioned that you knew of a FL with stds and that you PM-ed me “out of concern”
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I called you out on your fucking bullshit.
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The “facts” refer to the factual events that I described in my story, i.e my encounters with Fls, with either protection or raw. It would not make any logical sense for me to refer to my 80% figure as “fact”. I am neither omniscient nor claim to be the sole arbiter of truth in the universe. Nobody knows the real figure, unless deep research is conducted.
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You still havent mentioned what your guesstimate is. You are clearly against my narrative that rawing dome 1 FLs is easy, so I want to hear your narrative and its relevant logical reasoning. But i still stand by my 80% figure. To be more precise and clear, I believe that 80% of existing dome 1 FLs have given raw to customers before or would be willing to give raw to future customers if the appropriate conditions are met. Yes, I dont have statistics and data to back it up. But if you disagree with what im saying, put it this way then - if a customer offers $1k for raw, you think more than 20% of them would reject? You fucking stupid or what?
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Yes, i still stand by my statement that Dome 1 FLs are mostly std-ridden cum dumpsters. Crude and mean but it is what it is. Moving on, you are right that my logic is erroneous - being able to raw AP does not logically mean that average FLs also provide raw. But this is fucking common sense. Who do you think is more incentivized to provide raw? APs with 10 bookings a day or the struggling below-average looking FL? I still stand by my assertion that if APs willingly provided raw to me with no charge, then it is highly likely average FLs would do the same. Look, you are probably struggling with cognitive dissonance here. I have no doubt that you struggle with getting raw and hence think that most FLs do not provide it. But you fail to consider that they can potentially take up to 10 customers a day × 3 weeks = 300 potential customers. What are the odds that they gave raw to at least 1 of them? Very fucking high. In fact, now that I think of it, my figure of 80% is likely too conservative.
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The way you dont even bother defending yourself gives it away - you are indeed a fat hairy old bastard irl(or at least fall into 1 or more of these categories). Yes, this is a logical fallacy. Yes, I dont have the evidence or statistics to back it up. But im more than willing to gamble half of my remaining lifespan with absolutey zero payoff that im right.
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Originally Posted by
nakadashi555
Don’t cry when you tio jackpot on an expensive FL lol.
Really you have no understanding of how risk functions despite your academic sophistries
Sure, of course can still tio stds from premium FLs.
But this is a matter of probabilities. If premium FL cost 4x more but the risk of getting stds is 10x lower, then thats worth it.
Regardless, this whole topic on the probability of getting stds from FLs is simply periphery. Let us focus on the crux of the issue at hand shall we?
These are the factual events that transpired in sequence:
Since you have so much concern, why havent you exposed the FL yet? So which is it? Are you a white knight simp or a fucking liar?
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Originally Posted by
nakadashi555
You claimed earlier that these were “facts”, now you say in points 1 & 2 that your claim was a guesstimate. Very good.
Point 3- you still don’t get it do you? I am referring to the way you look down on Dome 1 FLs and how your erroneous your logic is that if you can raw 2 of what you say is “AP”, that consequently the less popular girls all can give the same service.
Point 4- don’t really care whatever it is you think of me. Whether I’m a hairy fat bastard, or if I have difficulties getting raw.
My suggestion is to focus on your GPA/CAP and not embarrass your profs here by being geh kiang. Additionally a module in reading comprehension would do you wonders!
Anyways, we have spent too much time discussing on these periphery issues. You still havent talked about the key issue at hand. Why THE FUCK have you not exposed the FL with stds yet? Are you a white knight simp, or a fucking liar? Answer this question first before you answer anything else. I honestly couldnt give a damn about this debate.
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Originally Posted by
nakadashi555
When the argument is lost…focus on attacking all other aspects not related to the main argument itself.
Maybe it is you yourself that want the raw ctc? then a few hours later you can whine about feeling ashamed on this thread again.
Your last day is like never ending sial.
Lol, very ironic, considering the fact that you have consistently avoided mentioning the name of the FL with supposed stds.
Dont forget, the CRUX of the issue at hand is your supposed “care and concern” for me in PM-ing me for the raw contact. It is only after I called you out for your bullshit in the PM that you started attacking my 80% figure comment which is completely irrelevant. I dont even give a fuck about this figure, if you are stupid enough to think that the real figure is significantly lower, then so be it. My main motivation is to expose you for the lying degenerate cunt that you are.
Funny how you now twist the story into me asking for raw contacts. Since when did I ever ask for raw contacts? If any bros here had been asked by me before, feel free to expose me. Again, this is very ironic, since YOU were the one that PM-ed me for the raw contact.
As for my “last day”, this is a technical inaccuracy, I have already explained it multiple times, go dig out my post history.
Look, do you really think you’re the first person to ask me for raw contact? But, you are truly the first person to get defensive when I refused to do so and spin a fucking bullshit story about how you were actually “concerned” about me and that the purpose was to warn me of a FL with stds.
I can already guess your twisted modus operandi. You desperately try to raw and creampie FLs due to your deviant fetishes, but constantly get rejected because you’re a repulsive human being irl. Instead, you come on this forum to ask for raw contacts. When you visit said contact, they still refuse you(because you’re a fat ugly old man), but this time, you mention how they provided raw to other customers in the past and you try to coerce them.
And dont even try denying the fact that you ask for raw contacts. Its literally in your post history and in my PMs.
The only reason why I have been typing out such long worded replies is to expose you for what you truly are - A degenerate, treacherous and lying cunt.
And yes, im still waiting for your response. Who exactly is this mysterious enigma of a FL that has stds? And why the fuck you hiding it for so long? I thought you have care and concern for the bros here?
Fucking clown.
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Originally Posted by
sbwow
Just marry the whore.
Your sarcasm not appreciated right now bro.
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Originally Posted by
sbwow
Just marry the whore.
Your sarcasm not appreciated right now bro.
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Originally Posted by
SMRTLTD
This thread is fast becoming a farce (if it isn’t oredi one)..
This TS is better off bringing his drivel to EDMW lol..
Farce your lampa. Check your PM, and you will know what im saying is facts.
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Originally Posted by
lefferonFFF
Not an expert psychologist or anything but just my 2 cents on this topic. Most of the experiences I had were just based on FLs, so the scope might be slightly narrower.
Not gonna discuss whether commercial sex or any variations of it alike is wrong or right, but ultimately as a guy, we all have the fundamental urge of having sex, and since that need is not fulfilled, we find other outlets of meeting that need. This forum and whatever services available is just one of the ways.
My personal experience is somewhat similar to yours, I totalled double digits of FLs visited in half a year. Did I regret it? Yes and No.
Yes because looking back, if I amounted the total amount spend of around slightly exceeding $1000. I could have spent it on other more productive stuff.
No, because of the experience it gave me. Honestly, during that period of time which I averaged around 1 FL a week, compared to wanking, I felt a lot more manly and more masculine, with a lot more testosterone flowing in my blood. I felt myself having more energy and I feel more connected to myself.
Nevertheless, I did get addicted and I did manage to eventually stop. I chanced upon a self-improvement youtuber and he shared a really inspiring idea which really clicked with me, regarding masturbation. That is that masturbation is not the disease but rather the symptom. The real disease is actually your mental health. So even if you embark on a 1000 day no fap streak, you will still eventually relapse, if your mental health does not improve. No Fap isnt a walk in the park, but it definitely isnt impossible.
Not gonna sound too preachy here, but for me my addiction to FLs at that time was somewhat equivalent to masturbation. So the moment I took steps to improve my mental health and adjust my focus with all my excess sexual energy on more productive goals. Eventually the need went away for a good amount of time. Eventually after this streak I did come back to FLs again, but is it really that bad of a thing? In my opinion, not really that much.
FLing now in my current perspective is just a means to fulfil an unmet need. Is it the ideal way to fulfil my need? Probably not. Id like it if I could organically meet a hot girl who is DTF, but given my current situation, I know that I probably cant attract the level of girls I want to attract, but that is ok, since I am trying to work on it now. So to fulfil my need of having sex with an attractive girl, FLing is a pretty decent option at the moment, even though I understand the high risk it has to your sexual health. So I just do it in moderation.
Other samsters here probably also came here because they have an unfulfilled need which can arise from a lot of different circumstances as well. Are the services here the most ideal means of meeting their need, maybe not? I dont know so I cant speak for everyone, but it sure is not for me la at least. The services here is just a medium, ultimately it is just a medium, ideally nothing more, nothing less. When better methods are available to us then naturally we will stop using this method. But what if the newer method suddenly becomes unavailable? Then we have no choice to come back to the previous methods we were using, if we want to get the job done.
No matter how rational we want to be or strive to be, it is easy for it to be overpowered by our fundamental desire to want to have sex. Just stay safe, do the necessary precautionary measures. Whatever silly decisions we made is already done, just dont think too much about it and learn the most you can from it.
Analysing whether FLing is good or bad in my opinion is not the main focus, so my reply here may not be entirely accurate or logical. If it gets the job done and it is acceptable to you then swee lor.
Due to my personal beliefs and compulsive addictice behaviour, I want to get the fuck out of this lifestyle for good.
But I cant. Call me weak, but quitting this bullshit is the hardest fucking thing ever.
On a side note, this lifestyle has increased my tendencies to indulge in self destructive behaviour, which is getting worse and worse
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Originally Posted by
SMRTLTD
This thread is fast becoming a farce (if it isn’t oredi one)..
This TS is better off bringing his drivel to EDMW lol..
Farce your lampa. Check your PM, and you will know what im saying is facts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
lefferonFFF
Not an expert psychologist or anything but just my 2 cents on this topic. Most of the experiences I had were just based on FLs, so the scope might be slightly narrower.
Not gonna discuss whether commercial sex or any variations of it alike is wrong or right, but ultimately as a guy, we all have the fundamental urge of having sex, and since that need is not fulfilled, we find other outlets of meeting that need. This forum and whatever services available is just one of the ways.
My personal experience is somewhat similar to yours, I totalled double digits of FLs visited in half a year. Did I regret it? Yes and No.
Yes because looking back, if I amounted the total amount spend of around slightly exceeding $1000. I could have spent it on other more productive stuff.
No, because of the experience it gave me. Honestly, during that period of time which I averaged around 1 FL a week, compared to wanking, I felt a lot more manly and more masculine, with a lot more testosterone flowing in my blood. I felt myself having more energy and I feel more connected to myself.
Nevertheless, I did get addicted and I did manage to eventually stop. I chanced upon a self-improvement youtuber and he shared a really inspiring idea which really clicked with me, regarding masturbation. That is that masturbation is not the disease but rather the symptom. The real disease is actually your mental health. So even if you embark on a 1000 day no fap streak, you will still eventually relapse, if your mental health does not improve. No Fap isnt a walk in the park, but it definitely isnt impossible.
Not gonna sound too preachy here, but for me my addiction to FLs at that time was somewhat equivalent to masturbation. So the moment I took steps to improve my mental health and adjust my focus with all my excess sexual energy on more productive goals. Eventually the need went away for a good amount of time. Eventually after this streak I did come back to FLs again, but is it really that bad of a thing? In my opinion, not really that much.
FLing now in my current perspective is just a means to fulfil an unmet need. Is it the ideal way to fulfil my need? Probably not. Id like it if I could organically meet a hot girl who is DTF, but given my current situation, I know that I probably cant attract the level of girls I want to attract, but that is ok, since I am trying to work on it now. So to fulfil my need of having sex with an attractive girl, FLing is a pretty decent option at the moment, even though I understand the high risk it has to your sexual health. So I just do it in moderation.
Other samsters here probably also came here because they have an unfulfilled need which can arise from a lot of different circumstances as well. Are the services here the most ideal means of meeting their need, maybe not? I dont know so I cant speak for everyone, but it sure is not for me la at least. The services here is just a medium, ultimately it is just a medium, ideally nothing more, nothing less. When better methods are available to us then naturally we will stop using this method. But what if the newer method suddenly becomes unavailable? Then we have no choice to come back to the previous methods we were using, if we want to get the job done.
No matter how rational we want to be or strive to be, it is easy for it to be overpowered by our fundamental desire to want to have sex. Just stay safe, do the necessary precautionary measures. Whatever silly decisions we made is already done, just dont think too much about it and learn the most you can from it.
Analysing whether FLing is good or bad in my opinion is not the main focus, so my reply here may not be entirely accurate or logical. If it gets the job done and it is acceptable to you then swee lor.
Due to my personal beliefs and compulsive addictice behaviour, I want to get the fuck out of this lifestyle for good.
But I cant. Call me weak, but quitting this bullshit is the hardest fucking thing ever.
On a side note, this lifestyle has increased my tendencies to indulge in self destructive behaviour, which is getting worse and worse
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Originally Posted by
syncrossed
so did u PM him for the dome 3 raw contact?
This fucking clown still dont want to answer my question. Up till now still havent reveal the FL with stds. Either a white knight simp or a fucking liar.
And yes he did PM me, its in my inbox. I just dk how ss and too lazy to do it.