Quote:
Originally Posted by
fwchong
i would make a bet that if he got for N, Jasmine would feel a need to go for Darren and then this is going to get complicated down the road…we shall read more…
it is another test
Quote:
Originally Posted by
junior_cannibal
Jasmine is weird, on my hand, wants to stay low before her divorce is complete, on the other hand, keep asking TS to try out other women.
When all of them come together, it would be 2 men and several women. Hmm.. Super orgy if they do a GB.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
jamestan1
I guess she wants TS to do it so she won’t feel bad about Darren. Doesn’t sound nice to me if TS is really serious, and I’m sure Darren wants it too. He just doesn’t wanna be the bad guy here
Only time will tell right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
EnigmaofSorrow
My guess is, Darren is the best fuck she’s ever had (and now she wants huge cocks), but Mark somehow can give her the complete package that she needs for a stable marriage. But if she marries him, she may still be itching for that huge cock.
She probably really wants to be with him and already made up her mind, but she knows what Ann did to him, and does not want to put him in that same kind of relationship.
She seems to have a high sex drive (5 years no sex probably triggered something), but is also careful with her choices (currently only Darren and Mark), even though she had no qualms sleeping with them even though she was still married and not knowing what would happen with her husband.
By pushing him to others it likely gives her less guilt to see Darren, or any other big cock for that matter, but it is likely it will be no-strings attached only.
She probably wants to fulfil her own desires before committing to him fully when she can. Pushing him to others may also be a fail-safe, in the event she cannot get rid of her big cock addiction, and ends up not marrying him, he may be able to cultivate some sort of relationship, probably with Shirlyn (I do not see Alicia as a viable choice due to the age gap and her somewhat manipulative nature).
Of course, I could be reading everything wrongly.
Darren could be an ass (he actually is) who just wants to fuck her NSA so he offers his wife in exchange NSA as well.
Natasha could be an unwilling participant to Darren’s twisted desires (but unlikely as they are both pretty dominant and self-centered in a certain way).
The way you say this also makes me suspicious.
And since you know them for 20 years, maybe you can share more about them?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
jamestan1
Lol bro I’ve read what Darren said in this story (if it is true) to know that he’s an ass.
I just feel like if this story is in real-time, and TS is reading this, just think of what u really want. And I sincerely hope J knows what she wants too.
But to me the triggering point was when she called Darren up for sex the first time, knowing that her roommates have already slept with him, and god knows how many women he’d slept with.
I’m not saying she has no right to, I just feel like he didn’t even consider TS in the first place, in a way she’s just thinking of her own satisfaction
I cannot control her and I won’t. I want her to choose to be with me on her own accord. But maybe I really cannot satisfy her in bed and all the while she’s faking it?
I headed straight for the shower when we reached back and Jasmine joined me inside. We were soaping and rubbing against each other when she suddenly asked.
J: So… Are you considering it?
Me: Considering what?
J: New FWB.
Me: I’m not.
J: Why not?
Me: I’ve said it many times. I want to be with you. I’m yours. I don’t want anyone else.
J: And I’ve said many times too, my divorce is not finalised.
Me: I’ll wait for you. We’re getting married right?
J: I would like to. Based on the way things are going now anyway.
Me: So why do you want me to have other FWBs? Do you consider us FWBs now?
J: I don’t know what we are. We’re not a couple yet. I’m happy with you. But…
Me: But what?
J: I don’t want you to regret it in the future if you make your decision now.
Me: Somehow I feel there’s something more to this.
J: There is. And it’s partly your fault.
Me: What did I do?
Jasmine grabbed my soapy dick and started wanking it slowly.
J: You made me feel like a woman again.
Me: What?
J: I was in a bad place, then you came along, friendly, funny, we flirted a lot…
Me: And?
J: I guess I fell for you?
Me: And?
J: Sex with you was pretty amazing.
Me: Was?
J: Well…. Darren does have a bigger dick.
Me: So… you still want to sleep with him?
J: It’s only sex… I have no feelings for him.
Me: But you have feelings for me?
J: Yes.
Me: But you want to sleep with him.
J: If you’re ok with it.
Me: I’m confused.
J: You’ve been having so much sex with so many women. I don’t have that much variety.
Me: And also he has a big dick.
J: Yup. It’s awesome.
Me: I see.
J: But he’s not the one I want to be with when I’m divorced.
Me: You can’t be with him anyway. He’s married.
J: I know. I already said it’s just for the sex.
Me: And if we’re married, then what?
J: I hope by then I’ll no longer want him?
Me: What if you no longer want me by then?
J: I don’t think that will happen. Unless there’s a drastic change in your character and personality.
Me: I’ve changed a lot since my army days.
J: Just don’t change who you are now. The guy who cares for me, and makes me happy, makes me laugh.
Me: But doesn’t have a big dick.
J: Argh. It’s not about that with you. I’m not with you for sex only!
Me: So if it’s not Darren, if another big dick comes around. And he’s caring, funny, makes you happy. Then what?
J: I never really considered that…
Me: See.
J: But that’s no reason for you to commit fully to me now and vice versa. What if you meet someone else? What if you decided you’re better off with someone younger and hotter?
Me: I’ll admit I never considered that either.
J: I think we’re both in strange places right now. But we have to accept the situation and adapt to it.
Me: And you want me to see others?
J: Why not? You’re technically single.
Me: And you want to see others too?
J: Well, just Darren. For sex only.
Me: Ok.
J: Ok?
Me: I want you to be happy. You keep asking about this, seems like you really want it to happen. I don’t see any other way except to do what you want, or don’t be together at all.
J: What do you want then?
Me: I want you to be happy.
J: That doesn’t explain much.
I kissed her and she kissed me back.
She turned on the water and washed the soap off while we were kissing under the shower.
I kissed her neck. She moaned.
J: Let’s just go with the flow ok?
Me: Ok.
I turned her around and positioned at her entrance. I checked if she was wet. Either she was, or it was just soap.
J: Fuck me hard.
I slid in, going as deep as I could. I felt her trembling as I pounded her from behind, it seemed like she was really enjoying sex with me, as if my dick was just the right size. And yet, she still wanted Darren.
We dried off and moved to the bed, I went down on her as she lay down and spread her legs instead of plunging in with my dick. She grabbed the bed sheets.
I heard the door creak open and Alicia peered in.
A: Why.
I removed my mouth from Jasmine’s pussy.
Me: Why what?
A: Why are you having sex now? I’m hungry and want to have an early dinner.
J: Shhh!!!!
I went back feasting on her abalone.
Alicia came in and sat on the bed.
A: Fine. I’ll sit here and wait until you’re done.
We ignored Alicia for the most part, but it was still a little distracting. I didn’t know why Jasmine was ok with this anyway. Sex was supposed to be private. But we had already crossed the boundary a long time ago with our threesomes and such. Ten minutes or so passed and I was still down there, using my mouth and fingers. Jasmine’s moans filled room as Alicia just stared at us.
A: Can you hurry up?
J: Can you don’t be so irritating?
Alicia came over and kissed Jasmine while I was eating her.
A: Faster. Please? I’m really hungry.
J: I already came.
A: Then?
J: He hasn’t.
They looked at me.
Me: What?
A: You need some help?
Me: Nope. I’m good.
J: Maybe we should just go for dinner.
Me: Maybe we should lock the door next time.
A: Yay!
Alicia came over and gave me a hug as I stood up, purposely brushing against my hard cock.
Me: Let me get it down first. Then we’ll go ok?
A: Ok!
She went out to the living room to wait.
Jasmine sat up and move to the edge of the bed.
J: How fast do you think I can make you cum?
Me: You know I don’t cum fast.
She grabbed me and licked the tip, sucking out some precum.
J: Oh well. It was worth a try.
She stood up.
J: Gotta wash up again.
We reentered the shower, washed up, then got dressed to go for dinner.
We ended up at the zhichar place at the industrial estate. Somehow Alicia was really hungry and had ordered 7 dishes, 2 veg, 1 tofu, 1 chicken, 1 pork, 1 fish and 1 salad youtiao. She even had 2 bowls of rice. It was like war was coming and she needed to eat all the food in case there was a shortage. Or winter was coming and she was going to hibernate.
After dinner we took a slow walk back to digest the food. Alicia went up first while Jasmine and I walked around the estate.
Not surprisingly we bumped into Darren and Natasha again. They were bringing their kids out for dinner. I decided that it was time to make things clear to them.
Me: Ok.
D: Ok what?
Me: We’ve talked about it and will go ahead with your proposal.
D: Oh? Are you sure?
Me: Yes.
D: Alright then. We’ll discuss this later.
They walked off. Jasmine clung on to me tighter. She kissed me on the cheek.
J: Thank you.
Me: I really want you to be happy.
J: I’m happy.
Me: Good.
We walked around for awhile longer before heading back home.
If this was what it took for her to be happy, I was going to do it for her.
I headed straight for the shower when we reached back and Jasmine joined me inside. We were soaping and rubbing against each other when she suddenly asked.
J: So… Are you considering it?
Me: Considering what?
J: New FWB.
Me: I’m not.
J: Why not?
Me: I’ve said it many times. I want to be with you. I’m yours. I don’t want anyone else.
J: And I’ve said many times too, my divorce is not finalised.
Me: I’ll wait for you. We’re getting married right?
J: I would like to. Based on the way things are going now anyway.
Me: So why do you want me to have other FWBs? Do you consider us FWBs now?
J: I don’t know what we are. We’re not a couple yet. I’m happy with you. But…
Me: But what?
J: I don’t want you to regret it in the future if you make your decision now.
Me: Somehow I feel there’s something more to this.
J: There is. And it’s partly your fault.
Me: What did I do?
Jasmine grabbed my soapy dick and started wanking it slowly.
J: You made me feel like a woman again.
Me: What?
J: I was in a bad place, then you came along, friendly, funny, we flirted a lot…
Me: And?
J: I guess I fell for you?
Me: And?
J: Sex with you was pretty amazing.
Me: Was?
J: Well…. Darren does have a bigger dick.
Me: So… you still want to sleep with him?
J: It’s only sex… I have no feelings for him.
Me: But you have feelings for me?
J: Yes.
Me: But you want to sleep with him.
J: If you’re ok with it.
Me: I’m confused.
J: You’ve been having so much sex with so many women. I don’t have that much variety.
Me: And also he has a big dick.
J: Yup. It’s awesome.
Me: I see.
J: But he’s not the one I want to be with when I’m divorced.
Me: You can’t be with him anyway. He’s married.
J: I know. I already said it’s just for the sex.
Me: And if we’re married, then what?
J: I hope by then I’ll no longer want him?
Me: What if you no longer want me by then?
J: I don’t think that will happen. Unless there’s a drastic change in your character and personality.
Me: I’ve changed a lot since my army days.
J: Just don’t change who you are now. The guy who cares for me, and makes me happy, makes me laugh.
Me: But doesn’t have a big dick.
J: Argh. It’s not about that with you. I’m not with you for sex only!
Me: So if it’s not Darren, if another big dick comes around. And he’s caring, funny, makes you happy. Then what?
J: I never really considered that…
Me: See.
J: But that’s no reason for you to commit fully to me now and vice versa. What if you meet someone else? What if you decided you’re better off with someone younger and hotter?
Me: I’ll admit I never considered that either.
J: I think we’re both in strange places right now. But we have to accept the situation and adapt to it.
Me: And you want me to see others?
J: Why not? You’re technically single.
Me: And you want to see others too?
J: Well, just Darren. For sex only.
Me: Ok.
J: Ok?
Me: I want you to be happy. You keep asking about this, seems like you really want it to happen. I don’t see any other way except to do what you want, or don’t be together at all.
J: What do you want then?
Me: I want you to be happy.
J: That doesn’t explain much.
I kissed her and she kissed me back.
She turned on the water and washed the soap off while we were kissing under the shower.
I kissed her neck. She moaned.
J: Let’s just go with the flow ok?
Me: Ok.
I turned her around and positioned at her entrance. I checked if she was wet. Either she was, or it was just soap.
J: Fuck me hard.
I slid in, going as deep as I could. I felt her trembling as I pounded her from behind, it seemed like she was really enjoying sex with me, as if my dick was just the right size. And yet, she still wanted Darren.
We dried off and moved to the bed, I went down on her as she lay down and spread her legs instead of plunging in with my dick. She grabbed the bed sheets.
I heard the door creak open and Alicia peered in.
A: Why.
I removed my mouth from Jasmine’s pussy.
Me: Why what?
A: Why are you having sex now? I’m hungry and want to have an early dinner.
J: Shhh!!!!
I went back feasting on her abalone.
Alicia came in and sat on the bed.
A: Fine. I’ll sit here and wait until you’re done.
We ignored Alicia for the most part, but it was still a little distracting. I didn’t know why Jasmine was ok with this anyway. Sex was supposed to be private. But we had already crossed the boundary a long time ago with our threesomes and such. Ten minutes or so passed and I was still down there, using my mouth and fingers. Jasmine’s moans filled room as Alicia just stared at us.
A: Can you hurry up?
J: Can you don’t be so irritating?
Alicia came over and kissed Jasmine while I was eating her.
A: Faster. Please? I’m really hungry.
J: I already came.
A: Then?
J: He hasn’t.
They looked at me.
Me: What?
A: You need some help?
Me: Nope. I’m good.
J: Maybe we should just go for dinner.
Me: Maybe we should lock the door next time.
A: Yay!
Alicia came over and gave me a hug as I stood up, purposely brushing against my hard cock.
Me: Let me get it down first. Then we’ll go ok?
A: Ok!
She went out to the living room to wait.
Jasmine sat up and move to the edge of the bed.
J: How fast do you think I can make you cum?
Me: You know I don’t cum fast.
She grabbed me and licked the tip, sucking out some precum.
J: Oh well. It was worth a try.
She stood up.
J: Gotta wash up again.
We reentered the shower, washed up, then got dressed to go for dinner.
We ended up at the zhichar place at the industrial estate. Somehow Alicia was really hungry and had ordered 7 dishes, 2 veg, 1 tofu, 1 chicken, 1 pork, 1 fish and 1 salad youtiao. She even had 2 bowls of rice. It was like war was coming and she needed to eat all the food in case there was a shortage. Or winter was coming and she was going to hibernate.
After dinner we took a slow walk back to digest the food. Alicia went up first while Jasmine and I walked around the estate.
Not surprisingly we bumped into Darren and Natasha again. They were bringing their kids out for dinner. I decided that it was time to make things clear to them.
Me: Ok.
D: Ok what?
Me: We’ve talked about it and will go ahead with your proposal.
D: Oh? Are you sure?
Me: Yes.
D: Alright then. We’ll discuss this later.
They walked off. Jasmine clung on to me tighter. She kissed me on the cheek.
J: Thank you.
Me: I really want you to be happy.
J: I’m happy.
Me: Good.
We walked around for awhile longer before heading back home.
If this was what it took for her to be happy, I was going to do it for her.
We resumed our usual routine of TV and ice cream after our walk. I didn’t want to think about what I just agreed to. In my mind, all I wanted was to be with her properly.
To put things in perspective, when we first started out, I was the one in an open relationship with Ann. I didn’t necessarily agree with it but went along anyway as she seemed to be happy. In the end, I guess her appetite for sex took over and we ended amicably. Was she happy with me? I guess she was for the most part of it.
I know the importance of physical intimacy, or sex even, is different for different people. Perhaps in Ann’s case, she really wanted the variety. For Jasmine though, I hoped that wasn’t the case. Maybe she really did have an addiction to big cocks, like Darren’s.
Could I blame her for it? Probably not. After all, I was the one who arranged for a threesome which ended up being more than that. I was the one who brought Darren into our lives. The dynamics of our relationship, if it could even be called a relationship, were definitely changed after that day. Even if it was anyone of the other guys who Bro EoS passed me the contacts, or even himself, I would still lose out anyway since I obviously do not have a 6.5" or above cock.
While Jasmine wasn’t an innocent virgin before, I think I definitely triggered something in her with these experiences. Maybe we went too fast in our sexual exploration. But she wanted to try it, and I wanted to accommodate her request. At least she isn’t going around looking for threesomes or more with other big cocks. And she still seems to be satisfied by me.
One thing I find weird about her now is that she had no qualms about letting Alicia watch us, or even join in. I guess even Felicia might be treated similarly if she was over more often. I wondered if she was doing it for my benefit. I’m pretty sure no guy in his right frame of mind would turn down more girls who wanted to fuck him at the same time. Maybe she thinks with them being there and watching us, I would suggest they join us. To me, this shows that she is not the jealous type. She seemed to take it pretty well when she found out I slept with Shirlyn. Maybe this is her way of making me happy as well?
We never really spoke of the new arrangement during the week. She did go to the gym daily with Natasha, sometimes Alicia joined them when she was home. Or at least I assumed they were at the gym. In the worst case scenario, all three of them were fucking Darren at the same time while I stayed at home to do my work. It wasn’t hard for me to pop by the gym to take a look, but I didn’t want to give her the impression that I didn’t trust her.
It wasn’t as if I didn’t care about what she was doing.
We still had sex daily, whether it was a quickie in the shower, or random impromptu sessions during work. I doubt she had the time to meet Darren as well this week anyway, unless her gym sessions was her working out on his pole.
I thought of asking EoS for his opinion, but he and other bros have been so vocal on the thread that I just needed to read it.
Honestly, a lot of you may be right about her intentions, and I really may not end up with Jasmine at the end of all this. But at least she seems happy. And perhaps I should be happy too.
Rebecca asked me to come in to do face to face for my weekly session on Thursday, instead of virtually and I agreed. Just nice Shirlyn was in the office too as I wanted to check with her on a client issue which Helen didn’t give me a really good answer other than “you are going to be Ops Manager, why don’t you decide what you want to do and tell us the outcome?”. I didn’t want to do that yet as it was a pretty important client and I didn’t want to do something the company didn’t agree with.
After talking through the various options with Shirlyn I went for a smoke and she joined me.
S: How’s everything so far? Still having trouble with the husband?
Me: Nope. He’s been quiet so far. Maybe I injured him and he got the message.
S: How are you then?
Me: I’m good. I think.
S: Why do you need to think?
Me: It’s complicated. Long story.
S: Do you want to talk about it?
Me: Over dinner?
S: Are you asking me out on a date?
Me: Erm. It’s just dinner.
S: I’m teasing. I’m good for dinner and drinks. WFH tomorrow anyway.
Me: I don’t think we should be drinking.
S: Why?
Me: Alcohol clouds judgement.
S: Oh come on! We already saw each other naked. What’s the worst that could happen? Besides you’re driving. So you can’t drink too much anyway.
Me: Alright then. Somewhere nearby?
S: I’m easy.
Me: Ramen?
S: Ok.
We headed back to the office to continue our work.
At 6 we walked over to the ramen place.
After ordering, and getting tea for drinks, we talked as we waited for our food.
S: So how are you really?
I told her about everything that had happened, and the new development with Jasmine. I know people have said I shouldn’t talk so much, but I felt at ease opening up to Shirlyn.
She didn’t say much, didn’t judge, and just listened. Even after our food had arrived, she didn’t say much.
After dinner we walked back to the car. I was going to send her home.
She was still pretty silent in the car, probably thinking of what to say.
As we reached back her place, she finally spoke.
S: You know, that’s an open invitation for us to see each other.
Me: As FWB? Are you sure that’s what you want?
S: Well… I never tried a huge cock before, so I don’t know what it’s like. All I know is that with you, it was good.
Me: Don’t you want a proper relationship?
S: I do. But with you I know you’re holding back because of your feelings for Jasmine.
Me: And yet you’re ok with being FWB?
S: Feelings can develop. Who knows what may happen? You’re caring and considerate. You place others above yourself.
Me: Am I?
S: To me you are. You go all out to pleasure your partner. That’s what I feel anyway.
Me: Any opinions on Jasmine?
S: Nah. She lives her own life and makes her own decisions. If this is what she wants and it’s what you want as well, then I’d wish you all the best.
Me: Thanks.
S: Don’t thank me. I can tell you’re hurting. But only you know what you want, and only you can take the next steps.
Me: Yeah. I know.
S: Anyway, whatever you do outside of the office is none of our concern. Just make sure you do what’s expected for you. I’ve spoken to the boss, he’s more than impressed by your progress. You may even be taking over Helen earlier.
Me: Huh?
S: She wants to go to Australia. Her husband has family there.
Me: You mean for a holiday?
S: No. Permanently.
Me: Is that even possible now? With Covid and all that.
S: She’s trying to arrange something. The travel lanes were open last year.
Me: But permanently?
S: Why not? Relocation isn’t that hard if you meet the criteria.
Me: Ah. I see.
S: So yeah. Do well, get promoted.
Me: And us?
S: It’s up to you. I really don’t mind being with you for however long it lasts, small happiness is better than none right?
Me: I don’t know. It’s complicated.
S: That’s why it’s really up to you.
We reached her place and she got out of the car.
S: Thanks for dinner and the ride.
I drove back to Jasmine’s place still as undecided as before. She was on the sofa again, waiting for me to have a pint of ice cream with her.
J: How was dinner?
Me: It was ok.
J: Alright. Anyway Darren would like to talk to you.
Me: Oh.
J: Just call or text him later yeah.
Me: Sure.
J: Right now, you’re mine.
She headed to the fridge and grabbed a pint, before settling down on the sofa again, feeling me once every two to three spoons of hers.
I wonder what Darren wanted this time.
We resumed our usual routine of TV and ice cream after our walk. I didn’t want to think about what I just agreed to. In my mind, all I wanted was to be with her properly.
To put things in perspective, when we first started out, I was the one in an open relationship with Ann. I didn’t necessarily agree with it but went along anyway as she seemed to be happy. In the end, I guess her appetite for sex took over and we ended amicably. Was she happy with me? I guess she was for the most part of it.
I know the importance of physical intimacy, or sex even, is different for different people. Perhaps in Ann’s case, she really wanted the variety. For Jasmine though, I hoped that wasn’t the case. Maybe she really did have an addiction to big cocks, like Darren’s.
Could I blame her for it? Probably not. After all, I was the one who arranged for a threesome which ended up being more than that. I was the one who brought Darren into our lives. The dynamics of our relationship, if it could even be called a relationship, were definitely changed after that day. Even if it was anyone of the other guys who Bro EoS passed me the contacts, or even himself, I would still lose out anyway since I obviously do not have a 6.5" or above cock.
While Jasmine wasn’t an innocent virgin before, I think I definitely triggered something in her with these experiences. Maybe we went too fast in our sexual exploration. But she wanted to try it, and I wanted to accommodate her request. At least she isn’t going around looking for threesomes or more with other big cocks. And she still seems to be satisfied by me.
One thing I find weird about her now is that she had no qualms about letting Alicia watch us, or even join in. I guess even Felicia might be treated similarly if she was over more often. I wondered if she was doing it for my benefit. I’m pretty sure no guy in his right frame of mind would turn down more girls who wanted to fuck him at the same time. Maybe she thinks with them being there and watching us, I would suggest they join us. To me, this shows that she is not the jealous type. She seemed to take it pretty well when she found out I slept with Shirlyn. Maybe this is her way of making me happy as well?
We never really spoke of the new arrangement during the week. She did go to the gym daily with Natasha, sometimes Alicia joined them when she was home. Or at least I assumed they were at the gym. In the worst case scenario, all three of them were fucking Darren at the same time while I stayed at home to do my work. It wasn’t hard for me to pop by the gym to take a look, but I didn’t want to give her the impression that I didn’t trust her.
It wasn’t as if I didn’t care about what she was doing.
We still had sex daily, whether it was a quickie in the shower, or random impromptu sessions during work. I doubt she had the time to meet Darren as well this week anyway, unless her gym sessions was her working out on his pole.
I thought of asking EoS for his opinion, but he and other bros have been so vocal on the thread that I just needed to read it.
Honestly, a lot of you may be right about her intentions, and I really may not end up with Jasmine at the end of all this. But at least she seems happy. And perhaps I should be happy too.
Rebecca asked me to come in to do face to face for my weekly session on Thursday, instead of virtually and I agreed. Just nice Shirlyn was in the office too as I wanted to check with her on a client issue which Helen didn’t give me a really good answer other than “you are going to be Ops Manager, why don’t you decide what you want to do and tell us the outcome?”. I didn’t want to do that yet as it was a pretty important client and I didn’t want to do something the company didn’t agree with.
After talking through the various options with Shirlyn I went for a smoke and she joined me.
S: How’s everything so far? Still having trouble with the husband?
Me: Nope. He’s been quiet so far. Maybe I injured him and he got the message.
S: How are you then?
Me: I’m good. I think.
S: Why do you need to think?
Me: It’s complicated. Long story.
S: Do you want to talk about it?
Me: Over dinner?
S: Are you asking me out on a date?
Me: Erm. It’s just dinner.
S: I’m teasing. I’m good for dinner and drinks. WFH tomorrow anyway.
Me: I don’t think we should be drinking.
S: Why?
Me: Alcohol clouds judgement.
S: Oh come on! We already saw each other naked. What’s the worst that could happen? Besides you’re driving. So you can’t drink too much anyway.
Me: Alright then. Somewhere nearby?
S: I’m easy.
Me: Ramen?
S: Ok.
We headed back to the office to continue our work.
At 6 we walked over to the ramen place.
After ordering, and getting tea for drinks, we talked as we waited for our food.
S: So how are you really?
I told her about everything that had happened, and the new development with Jasmine. I know people have said I shouldn’t talk so much, but I felt at ease opening up to Shirlyn.
She didn’t say much, didn’t judge, and just listened. Even after our food had arrived, she didn’t say much.
After dinner we walked back to the car. I was going to send her home.
She was still pretty silent in the car, probably thinking of what to say.
As we reached back her place, she finally spoke.
S: You know, that’s an open invitation for us to see each other.
Me: As FWB? Are you sure that’s what you want?
S: Well… I never tried a huge cock before, so I don’t know what it’s like. All I know is that with you, it was good.
Me: Don’t you want a proper relationship?
S: I do. But with you I know you’re holding back because of your feelings for Jasmine.
Me: And yet you’re ok with being FWB?
S: Feelings can develop. Who knows what may happen? You’re caring and considerate. You place others above yourself.
Me: Am I?
S: To me you are. You go all out to pleasure your partner. That’s what I feel anyway.
Me: Any opinions on Jasmine?
S: Nah. She lives her own life and makes her own decisions. If this is what she wants and it’s what you want as well, then I’d wish you all the best.
Me: Thanks.
S: Don’t thank me. I can tell you’re hurting. But only you know what you want, and only you can take the next steps.
Me: Yeah. I know.
S: Anyway, whatever you do outside of the office is none of our concern. Just make sure you do what’s expected for you. I’ve spoken to the boss, he’s more than impressed by your progress. You may even be taking over Helen earlier.
Me: Huh?
S: She wants to go to Australia. Her husband has family there.
Me: You mean for a holiday?
S: No. Permanently.
Me: Is that even possible now? With Covid and all that.
S: She’s trying to arrange something. The travel lanes were open last year.
Me: But permanently?
S: Why not? Relocation isn’t that hard if you meet the criteria.
Me: Ah. I see.
S: So yeah. Do well, get promoted.
Me: And us?
S: It’s up to you. I really don’t mind being with you for however long it lasts, small happiness is better than none right?
Me: I don’t know. It’s complicated.
S: That’s why it’s really up to you.
We reached her place and she got out of the car.
S: Thanks for dinner and the ride.
I drove back to Jasmine’s place still as undecided as before. She was on the sofa again, waiting for me to have a pint of ice cream with her.
J: How was dinner?
Me: It was ok.
J: Alright. Anyway Darren would like to talk to you.
Me: Oh.
J: Just call or text him later yeah.
Me: Sure.
J: Right now, you’re mine.
She headed to the fridge and grabbed a pint, before settling down on the sofa again, feeling me once every two to three spoons of hers.
I wonder what Darren wanted this time.
I met Darren outside the estate as I wanted to smoke.
D: You should smoke less. Affects performance.
Me: Sure it does.
D: Anyway, come over to my place at 11pm tomorrow.
Me: With Jasmine?
D: God no. Alone.
Me: When are you seeing her?
D: Haha. You think too much bro. We aren’t fucking.
Me: Erm.
D: I’m serious.
Me: She still wants to.
D: I know. They all do. The only one I’ve to try so hard to convince is my own wife.
Me: Huh?
D: Alicia, Felicia, they’re the ones who call me up. My own wife won’t do it unless she’s really in the mood. And, well, sometimes I can tell she isn’t really pleased.
Me: I thought you said she’s fine.
D: She is. Most of the time.
Me: I’m really confused now.
D: Nat’s the one who introduced me to the open marriage concept.
Me: Ah?
D: After the second kid, somehow her sex drive increased. But we couldn’t really have that much sex due to my size. One day she asked how I would feel if she satisfied her desires with someone else. I didn’t want to be a cuckold and have her do it behind my back, so I said sure, as long as I choose the guy, and I was around the first few times to make sure she was ok.
Me: That’s a surprise.
D: It was surprising to me too. But we grew closer somehow.
Me: I see.
D: So she asked why I allowed her to do it, what about me?
Me: What about you?
D: She said it was only fair if I got to have my own FWB as well.
Me: And?
D: Come on, how many girls do you seriously think can handle me?
Me: I know of at least 3.
D: Haha. That’s right now. Back then it was pretty tough.
Me: You said you introduced guys to her. Couldn’t she do the same for you?
D: Nah. None of her friends are into this.
Me: So how did you start?
D: Work. I had a divorced superior. Didn’t really work out. I ended up changing jobs.
Me: Sorry to hear that.
D: Oh. It was nothing like that. We continued the relationship. I just couldn’t be in the same company as she was showing too much favoritism.
Me: When did it all start?
D: Well, my kids are 9 and 11.
Me: This has been going on for 9 years?
D: Yeah.
Me: How many guys have you introduced to her?
D: Currently? 5.
Me: So they were pretty long term I guess?
D: Quite.
Me: And yourself?
D: Honestly? Jasmine was the second. Then Alicia, Amanda, Felicia.
Me: That’s really surprising. What happened to your first?
D: Nothing. I still see her on occasion.
Me: All the guys you introduced were your friends?
D: Yup. From school, army, work. Basically people I can trust.
Me: Was EoS one of them?
D: Haha. I know why you’re asking. The way he’s been commenting on the thread makes it seem like he’s involved right?
Me: Pretty much.
D: Nah. I suggested, since we both know him. She immediately said no.
Me: I wonder why.
D: I more or less know why.
Me: So I guess his stories are true then?
D: I think you both take some liberties in your writing.
Me: I don’t deny that.
D: Anyway, Jasmine and I really haven’t been meeting. But my wife has been asking me for a new guy. So I asked her if she was ok with it.
Me: And why is she ok with it?
D: Honestly? I don’t know. Maybe she’ll feel less guilty if she decides to sleep with me again?
Me: Right. What happened to the current guy?
D: You mean the current 2 others?
Me: Ok I wasn’t expecting that.
D: One’s wife gave birth end of last year. So he’s stopping for now. The other one is still continuing. He’s actually in EoS story too. Jason.
Me: Oh. I don’t really recall much about that.
D: Jenny’s brother.
Me: Oh!
D: We hung out together sometimes.
Me: He doesn’t really seem to like you though. EoS I mean.
D: Well, I really was an ass before. Gave him some shit during his army time too when he was injured.
Me: You were a regular too?
D: Yeah. But I left after 5 years. Shit place. Waste of my time.
Me: I spent nearly 3 times the time there.
D: Yeah. She said.
Me: You guys talk alot?
D: We talk enough. Mostly about you. She doesn’t understand you and the things you do. You need to open up to her more.
Me: Oh.
D: Anyway, enough about us. Tomorrow 11pm. Come over. I’m bringing the kids to my in-laws. We’re staying over.
Me: I’ll think about it.
D: Just come over and have a chat with her. Whatever happens is up to the two of you.
Me: I’ll still think about it.
We headed back to our respective homes.
I guess I had the whole of Friday working from home to think about these new revelations.
I met Darren outside the estate as I wanted to smoke.
D: You should smoke less. Affects performance.
Me: Sure it does.
D: Anyway, come over to my place at 11pm tomorrow.
Me: With Jasmine?
D: God no. Alone.
Me: When are you seeing her?
D: Haha. You think too much bro. We aren’t fucking.
Me: Erm.
D: I’m serious.
Me: She still wants to.
D: I know. They all do. The only one I’ve to try so hard to convince is my own wife.
Me: Huh?
D: Alicia, Felicia, they’re the ones who call me up. My own wife won’t do it unless she’s really in the mood. And, well, sometimes I can tell she isn’t really pleased.
Me: I thought you said she’s fine.
D: She is. Most of the time.
Me: I’m really confused now.
D: Nat’s the one who introduced me to the open marriage concept.
Me: Ah?
D: After the second kid, somehow her sex drive increased. But we couldn’t really have that much sex due to my size. One day she asked how I would feel if she satisfied her desires with someone else. I didn’t want to be a cuckold and have her do it behind my back, so I said sure, as long as I choose the guy, and I was around the first few times to make sure she was ok.
Me: That’s a surprise.
D: It was surprising to me too. But we grew closer somehow.
Me: I see.
D: So she asked why I allowed her to do it, what about me?
Me: What about you?
D: She said it was only fair if I got to have my own FWB as well.
Me: And?
D: Come on, how many girls do you seriously think can handle me?
Me: I know of at least 3.
D: Haha. That’s right now. Back then it was pretty tough.
Me: You said you introduced guys to her. Couldn’t she do the same for you?
D: Nah. None of her friends are into this.
Me: So how did you start?
D: Work. I had a divorced superior. Didn’t really work out. I ended up changing jobs.
Me: Sorry to hear that.
D: Oh. It was nothing like that. We continued the relationship. I just couldn’t be in the same company as she was showing too much favoritism.
Me: When did it all start?
D: Well, my kids are 9 and 11.
Me: This has been going on for 9 years?
D: Yeah.
Me: How many guys have you introduced to her?
D: Currently? 5.
Me: So they were pretty long term I guess?
D: Quite.
Me: And yourself?
D: Honestly? Jasmine was the second. Then Alicia, Amanda, Felicia.
Me: That’s really surprising. What happened to your first?
D: Nothing. I still see her on occasion.
Me: All the guys you introduced were your friends?
D: Yup. From school, army, work. Basically people I can trust.
Me: Was EoS one of them?
D: Haha. I know why you’re asking. The way he’s been commenting on the thread makes it seem like he’s involved right?
Me: Pretty much.
D: Nah. I suggested, since we both know him. She immediately said no.
Me: I wonder why.
D: I more or less know why.
Me: So I guess his stories are true then?
D: I think you both take some liberties in your writing.
Me: I don’t deny that.
D: Anyway, Jasmine and I really haven’t been meeting. But my wife has been asking me for a new guy. So I asked her if she was ok with it.
Me: And why is she ok with it?
D: Honestly? I don’t know. Maybe she’ll feel less guilty if she decides to sleep with me again?
Me: Right. What happened to the current guy?
D: You mean the current 2 others?
Me: Ok I wasn’t expecting that.
D: One’s wife gave birth end of last year. So he’s stopping for now. The other one is still continuing. He’s actually in EoS story too. Jason.
Me: Oh. I don’t really recall much about that.
D: Jenny’s brother.
Me: Oh!
D: We hung out together sometimes.
Me: He doesn’t really seem to like you though. EoS I mean.
D: Well, I really was an ass before. Gave him some shit during his army time too when he was injured.
Me: You were a regular too?
D: Yeah. But I left after 5 years. Shit place. Waste of my time.
Me: I spent nearly 3 times the time there.
D: Yeah. She said.
Me: You guys talk alot?
D: We talk enough. Mostly about you. She doesn’t understand you and the things you do. You need to open up to her more.
Me: Oh.
D: Anyway, enough about us. Tomorrow 11pm. Come over. I’m bringing the kids to my in-laws. We’re staying over.
Me: I’ll think about it.
D: Just come over and have a chat with her. Whatever happens is up to the two of you.
Me: I’ll still think about it.
We headed back to our respective homes.
I guess I had the whole of Friday working from home to think about these new revelations.
So I headed over to Darren’s place around 11pm as requested.
I had the whole day to think about it, even talking to Jasmine regarding the situation over lunch.
Me: I think we need to talk.
J: We definitely do.
Me: I had an interesting chat with Darren last night.
J: I’m sure you did.
Me: How can I help you understand the things that I do?
J: I don’t know. Just be yourself. I’m happy with that.
Me: But you don’t understand me?
J: You’re really hard to understand. I know you treat me well, you do things to make me happy. You want to keep me safe. But you’re doing all of it for me. What about yourself? What do you want?
Me: I want you to be happy.
J: And I am.
Me: Are you jealous of the other girls?
J: Of course not. You still ended up with me.
Me: Aren’t you afraid I may sleep with Alicia again?
J: That was something I considered when I asked you to stay over. But you never did it. Even when she was practically inviting you to do it.
Me: She was?
J: You really cannot tell?
Me: I’m not sure.
J: You could be seeing Shirlyn as well. You could have slept with her yesterday night if you wanted to. But you didn’t.
Me: I didn’t want to.
J: You’re a really strange guy. I already said I’m ok with it.
Me: Maybe I don’t want you to be sleeping with others?
J: I know you don’t want that. But are you going to stop me if I wanted to?
Me: I won’t.
J: And why not?
Me: Bacause I want you to be happy. I know I can’t satisfy some of your needs sexually…
J: Yup. You can’t.
Me: I hope it won’t be a permanent thing.
J: I hope so too. Maybe it’s just a phase.
Me: What we have is special.
J: I know. With you, it feels like we’re making love even when you’re fucking me hard.
Me: Isn’t that a good thing?
J: It is. But there’s some things Darren can do that you can’t. And it’s not your fault.
Me: Ok
J: Are you going to meet Natasha?
Me: Don’t really feel like it.
J: You know she’s been asking about you all week?
Me: So?
J: You like to make women happy right?
Me: I like to make you happy.
J: And Alicia, Felicia, Shirlyn…
Me: That’s not fair.
J: Is it fair that she can’t be satisfied by her husband?
Me: Erm.
J: Not everyone can handle someone like Darren ok?
Me: She chose to marry him.
J: I guess she overestimated her abilities.
Me: What’s the real reason you keep pushing me to her?
J: I’m only suggesting.
Me: Be honest.
J: I know you’ll do your best to satisfy her.
Me: That can’t be the real reason. I’m not some toyboy that is passed around.
J: I want to sleep with Darren regularly.
Me: Thank you for being honest.
J: I want you to be ok with it.
Me: I’m ok with it. But I don’t want to sleep with others.
J: It’s not fair to you.
Me: I didn’t ask you to be fair. I just want you to be honest.
J: I’ve missed out on a lot of things in the past few years, and even before that. I want to live life again. Then I want to settle down with a good man, someone I can trust, someone who will listen to me, someone who makes me happy. And that’s you.
Me: Ok.
J: Darren and I will never be anything more than FWB. There’s no emotions involved. And he’s married. So he has a commitment.
Me: And if you find an unmarried guy, just like me, but with a bigger dick and can satisfy you sexually better than me, then what?
J: That’s why I don’t want to find anyone else. Darren is a safe choice.
Me: Your logic is warped.
J: Are you going to see Natasha or not?
Me: I don’t want to.
J: It’s the same concept. She has a commitment, she will just be a FWB.
I was slowly beginning to understand her point.
J: With Alicia, Felicia, Shirlyn and anyone else, they’re single, there’s a chance of more developing.
Me: And you also pushed me to them? Why?
J: I thought that is what you wanted. Why would you even sleep with Shirlyn in the first place? It’s not as though you were close.
Me: I don’t know. I was lonely I guess. It just happened.
J: Yet you were sleeping with Felicia at that point of time.
Me: Yeah…
J: You see. We’re both crazy. We don’t even know why we do the things we do.
Me: So if I want to sleep with Alicia, Felicia, Shirlyn, Natasha and whoever else comes my way, then what?
J: Then I guess I better ask my lawyer to speed up the proceedings.
Me: So even if I do all that, you’re saying that you still want to be with me in the end?
J: Yes. I do.
Me: You sure it’s not about the house?
J: Oh. About that. I don’t even need you for the house. It will be mine after the divorce.
Me: Oh…
J: I just want us to have as much fun as we can before we settle down again. Don’t you have friends who have wild bachelor’s parties or hen’s nights before they get married?
Me: I don’t think it’s that wild.
J: Think of this as an extended bachelor’s party then.
Me: It just seems like you’re swapping partners.
J: Maybe. But I’m not stopping you from sleeping with anyone else.
Me: You’re crazy.
J: I probably am.
Me: I really don’t want to do it.
J: Then just go and have a chat with her. She’s alone tonight. She needs the company.
Me: Will you come with me then?
J: Sure. Why not?
Me: Ok. We’ll go over at 11pm then.
The rest of the day continued as usual. We ordered in fried chicken for dinner and she opened another bottle of Soju. I guess she wanted to make me a little high so that I would be less inhibited.
Now all we needed to do was to wait for the time to go over, and while waiting, we ate another pint of Ben & Jerry’s.