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nuclearkid
Love your writing style, bro. Got me hooked every word of the way.
Thanks bro…very kind of you to say…
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It may cause her enough discomfort not to want you to meet her folks but at least the ball is squarely on her side.
Yeah bro…methinks it may cause her enough discomfort to kick me in the nuts too…
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. Whichever, please do continue your story.
Sure thing bro…coming right up after replying a few more posts…
Cheers…
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Originally Posted by
sane
Hi sis,
If u read more about bro Wizrd, u will know where he is coming from. He is someone who just walk out from a marriage and won’t commit.
He is upfront to the ladies and don’t promise them anything just to get them in bed. Sex is based on mutual agreement. For this, I salute him.
I guess the key to avoid being hurt is to be direct and straight forward.
I made it very clear from day 1 to those who know me that I don’t go for flings/ons/fbs and when i went out with my guy friends, I paid for my own share or we take turns to pay, won’t sponge on anyone too. That friendship line is drawn very clearly
Even if bro is my personal friend, I will made this known for him too.
For this case, it’s really unexpected n for the best for both of them, stop all contact for the hurt to be minimal.
Even if it seem to v cruel, this is actually the best for the other party, release her n let her move on, just leave the beautiful memories behind.
Thank Sane…you’re the best…
Very true…draw the line so each person is aware of the boundary…and the ‘price’ for crossing over…then each and both can decide which side to cross over to…
Well said!
And agree too…I’m MIA to her now and probably will not contact her again. Surprisingly…my heart hurts pretty badly on this one…both for having to do this…and having done that…one of life’s real cruel curve balls…
Cheers sis…please keep reading and commenting…
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Originally Posted by
curiouslala
Lol.. No need to discuss about my siggy la.. That one, case close liao..
Hey sis…
I picked up on your siggy not because I’m nosey….was just going to point out to you your state of mind when writing that…kinda in answer to your accusation from before…
Glad you said what you said below though…and we seem to agree on the fundamental fact that both men and women enjoy fun…and dare I say, sex…it is then only a matter of how we get it, right?
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But anyway, I’ve to say sorry bcos i said that you playing with girl’s heart.
Bcos if when she asked u whether you have other gfs or not n u answer it with Yes..
Then I must say that you’re not playing with their heart n it’s more like u fall into your own game (not karma)
Please sis…no need to apologise…it was only a matter of perspective…
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And yeah, like sis sane said below, that’s called mutual benefits la..
Bcos if I happen to be in one of ur gfs place, I’d be happy if you told me the real fact that you are having other gfs except me and it’ll give me chance to think whether I want to continue screwing u or not..
Hahaha….that’s sounds…errrmmm…yeah…
I understand what you mean sis…glad you can accept my method…
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In my own case, I also did asked him about that few times and he dun wan be honest..
Even after I told him that’s its okay if he have gf..
Then tada.. Her gf or maybe i should say a fiance, came out into the picture
And it’s was not good la..
If he’s being honest with me, maybe we’re now in thailand and having a LOT of fun tgt..
I’m sorry to hear that sis…
Sadly, some guys like to employ the fog of war as their only tactics.
I suppose it’s insecurity or not wanting to miss out for being honest…
But being a guy…I can see where they are coming from…and can only say ‘all is fair in love and battle’…guys must do what they have to do…right or wrong, moral or not…and the ladies have to find ways verify and check merchandise before accepting….something like buyer beware….
It is a dance of sorts after all, and kinda unfair to only blame one side. One team primarily does the offence and one team primarily does the defence…and hopefully the dance is a joyous one for both parties…
The toughest dance is when one side wants to be upfront, but the other side thinks it’s a trick… Neither side can win those…
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About the owning, let me think on how to rephrase it in English..
Paiseh.. My mother tongue isn’t English..
Hahaha…English is not my mother tongue either…no worries, please take all the time you need…
While you’re thinking…can you please add this question to the production line…
When sex is involved, everyone seem to think or believe that the man gained while the woman lost. Be it reputation, morality, value…did the woman really lose something for having sex with a man?
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I’ve been MIA for few weeks and the last thing that i read from bro Wizrd is when he shared his tips n tricks on how to have fun with local delights w/o hv to pay or tabao (correct me if I’m wrong)..
And i really dunno if he would answer those girls honestly if they ask about his other gfs…
Hahaha…sis…
Those tips are like a guide to speed dating…
I share tips on how to bring the horse to the water’s edge…and ways to ‘assist’ the horse to want to willingly drink…but ultimately…it is still up to the horse to drink…this cannot and should never be forced…
If you have read through what I have shared…I gave plenty of examples of failures…and even suggested times to walk away…
It is by no means a sure-win formula…merely to help improve the chance only…and hopefully broken down into understandable and digestible chunks…
Just so you know sis…in another adult site…I ‘share’ similar tips to help women to attract guys and ways to improve their chances of being asked out…this dating game is tough…and we all need all the help we can get…both men and women…but I just dislike playing emotional games…people should be more upfront with their intentions…although I won’t ever win that one…
Cheers sis…love hearing from you…
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sean69
For this case, at least for TS, he knows why he is stopping contacts .. but what about the lady ?
Is it more cruel to leave her wondering what happen or would it be able to tell her the truth and let her decide?
no right or wrong answer, just wondering…
Yes bro…sadly, in this case, I cannot do both…telling her the truth will invite ten thousand unanswerable questions plus whatever she decides, I will still have to say no.
Therefore…the best solution I can come up with is to leave her wondering and know that she is strong enough to move on soon…
Cheers bro…
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Tazzymercs
Bro there is a difference in 不舍得 and feeling wasted leh lol…is you feel 不舍得 or that its just a wasted effort leh…
Yes bro…I understand what you are saying…maybe you will understand me better after reading the rest of my story…my heart pain stems from wishing I didn’t start the thing at all…
I initially thought I can highlight just the facts…but realise I cannot make sense of the complexity with telling almost the full story…
Please read on…
Cheers bro…
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Being Mr. Gung ho…I die die must try my luck…and soon…I warmed her up enough to go for a date with me…of course…the rest of the class had no idea…including Chong…
Ching and I agreed that our relationship should be kept a secret or she will never hear the end of it in class and that was fine by me…I told her also that I was planning to study overseas after my NS, so we should keep our relationship light…no heavy stuff that may cause us to regret when the time came for me to leave…within a month…she and I were meeting secretly to do the horizontal tango…
After a couple of weeks of getting together with Ching, I was introduced to her cousin; Chung. Chung was very cute too but different from Ching. She was the outgoing sporty type…always after some outdoor activities…always going in four different directions all at once…
One day when I was cuddling Ching, I suggested to her that we should hook Chong and Chung up together. She laughed at the idea because they were quite the opposite. He was the silent steady type and she cannot sit still for a minute plus speaks at 200 mile per hour. I laughed too. It’ll be fun and who knows, opposite attracts right?
We spent a day or too to scheme it, and the most important thing was to keep Ching and my relationship quiet. This proved easy enough since Chung was the careless type who didn’t even think we were together. She actually thought Ching and I were revising Japanese in her bedroom. So cute yet so blur….hahahaha…
It wasn’t difficult to bring the two of them together….simply get Chung to come pick Ching up after class, Chong and I just happened to need a ride to Orchard…easy peasy….then at Orchard, Ching suddenly needed my help to pick out a thank you present (we told Chong it was for Chung and told Chung it was for Chong…hahaha) and we asked Chong to go jalan jalan with Chung to keep her company until we were done…meet back here in 3 hours ok? Cool…see ya…
To be fair, Chong was suspicious…very suspicious…3 hours to buy present?? But given a chance to be with a cute girl, he left it well enough alone. He did confront me the next day and i told him the scheme…we laughed real hard about it.
From all reports gathered, they got on well. She brought up his energy level while he gave her some calm…they were a nice couple…
Life was good and it got even better…after a while as a corporal…I was sent a notice that I was to report to OCS…to become an officer…wow…fantastic….
Chong and I celebrated…then at another time, Ching and I celebrated too…
I told the both of them that I had to drop out of Japanese because being back on course won’t give me the time to attend classes and do homework and all that…the OCS course was 6 months for me and that is a long time to try to juggle everything…
Naturally…Chong was unaware of what was going on between Ching and I…but he knew that she and I were friends…better friends than with other classmates…that was all he knew though…he did ask me if I have a girlfriend around that time period…but he bought my standard excuse of “who has the time bro?”
Chong and I would still meet when I had time on weekends…and Ching and I would meet whenever I can get away from everyone else I knew…things were stable for a few months…and I was having a great time…very tired all the time…but great…
Chong asked me one day about sex…when should he and Chung get into it? I was surprised that they hadn’t done it yet,..knowing how daring and active she is. He said they never got around to it…they only kissed and from my understanding of what he said, not even the tongue kind of kissing…maybe slightly hotter than a good night kiss…max extent of wet lips and slight open mouths…no tongue and holding hands with each other so no auto roam…and lasting only like a few seconds at a time…. It was the 80s man but my best friend of the day was gunning for the 1880s…However, I wasn’t overly concerned for him though. Knowing him, he’d come up with ‘don’t ruin the girl’s future’ type of old school Chinese drama crap. I knew Chung will rape him when she is good and ready…oh..note to self…remind her to give him an ang pao…
If you guys know about NS days…you will understand that with the limited time outside of camp…there was very little time for quality time with outside friends…between new course mates, Chong and my old kantang mates…and Ching…and family…juggling becomes too tiring some times…every sector got less time in my schedule…..
Nevertheless, Chong was still one of the main stay during my weekends…his parents’ home was near a hawker centre…and whenever I went over to visit…his mother would always cook soup and desserts for me…his sister…21 years old that year…seem to have taken a shine to me too and always bought cakes and kueh keuh every Sunday…according to Chong…she never asked if I was going over…but always bought the stuff…and no one was allowed to touch them until evening time after I didn’t show up…it was heart warming…and I knew nothing about not stringing a woman along then…I mean, I was getting kueh kueh right??…bring it on…the more the merrier…her heart is her problem…sorry but every man (and woman) look out for his/her own internal organs ok?
(to be continued…)
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Steventan
TS Wizrd,
Thanks for a well written thread & sharing what you went through …
No worries bro…thanks for reading and commenting…
Cheers…
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sane
Tks for sharing bro. Without a proper closure and with the complications involved, no doubt this will set the heart aching. Time heal everything.
Do continue writing.
Thanks Sane…
Yes, I hope the heart ache and regret will lessen over time quickly…
Cheers and more cumming right up…
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We would hang out in his house…chit chat and talk about our plans for our future and anything under the sun…then go get a coffee or snack at the hawker centre…life was simple and good…his sister would sometimes join us…but most of the time felt left out by guys speak…or more technically accurate…our talking cock…yet, she bravely hung on and tagged along with us every so often…
I always excused myself around 6 pm to go meet Ching, and Chong’s mother had asked me many times to stay for dinner…always…no thanks Auntie…need to go home….and she would laugh and scold me…say I should always go home first and spend more time there…hahaha…I know that if I really did that…Auntie would have been disappointed…
Anyway…this lasted for the 6 months of OCS…and when I was posted back to be a P.C in Guards…things got even more busy…I had to cut the time spent at Chong’s house…and went over only once every two weeks…Ching and I were still keeping things light but I can tell she was getting restless…I knew she wanted more…a proper gf/bf thingy…even though we did all the bf/gf things…shopping, movies, meals, play house etc…but she wanted a title, which I could not understand the importance of…I mean, say she’s girlfriend or don’t say she’s girlfriend, she is still girlfriend mah, right? Why must be iron teeth about this? My OCS mate have met her and they think of her as my girlfriend, not enough meh?..I only knew that I wanted to attend university in England…and that was still my plan in about a year’s time…and in my warped sense of logic, I merely didn’t want someone who has speaking right to ask me not to go, and thus give me a dilemma…
During this period, both Ching and Chong would tell me the going ons in the Japanese class and they have become good friends too…I guess because they shared a common friend in me plus the Chung factor…and we tried so hard not to mix the meetings that I never actually saw the two of them together for a long time…once in a while, I’d meet him and Chung together…the young love birds were still not making headway in the sex department, and even I was starting to get blue balls on his behalf…he wasn’t fazed though…and patiently explained to me that this is how a good relationship should be…KNN…I almost choked on my satay….
One day…Ching and I had an argument…we both said things we regretted…but young lovers are prone to that kind of things…after a few hugs and kisses…all was forgiven and things were back to normal…however…the mind state has altered…and I suspect that it kept on modifying a little at a time after that…
Roughly 2 months after that big argument…Ching and I decided to break off the sexual relationship and just be friends…I wouldn’t be her boyfriend and she wanted more from a guy…fair enough… I was not that guy for her…only being her friend was not easy but since I had little time…I only met her once a month after that…to eat and catch up, nothing more…but we were like the best of friends and can share everything because of our history….
We were soon passing the 1.5 year mark of our NS…I had another ‘girlfriend’, Chong said Chung broke up with him but its ok, he almost have another girlfriend already anyway…I asked him to double date with us and he always said not yet….I pushed and questioned and got no answer as to why we cannot double date…he had join me and my new girl for supper but there was no sign of his so-called girlfriend…according to Ching, Chung found Chong to be too straight and boring…ok, so opposites didn’t attract that much then…
I still visited his house…and the soup and cakes and keuhs were always good…Auntie was always very pleasant and made me felt at home…Chong’s sister even started to sew and iron my uniform and stuff for me…this was like a home to me…
One day…Chong pulled me out to the hawker centre before I had my soup…na bei…WTF man?? And he acted very secretive…which was very unlike him…we sat down to a cup of kopi each then he started with the twenty questions…
Hey…I know you have a girlfriend but you are not very serious with her right?
Yes??? Why??
Hey…how about my sister??
What about your sister??
You know she likes you right?
Yeah…I’m a very likeable person…so what??
No…not like that…she really likes you…
For fuck sake bro…what’s going on? Are you trying to fix me up with you sister??
He looked a bit embarrassed…but he pushed on…he told me that when his sister heard that I have a girlfriend…she cried all night…KNN…why girls so like that one??
He asked if I can see a chance to be with his sister…you know…make her happy…which will make him happy…and also make his mother happy…yeah yeah yeah….I get it…na bei…everybody happy mah, right?…except me…no one cares how I feel hor…
No ah…she will make you happy one….you don’t think my sister is good for you meh?
Ok folks…time out…this is a fucking loaded question…a guy and his sister…do not mess around there…he makes fun of her…no problems…he tekan her…no problems…he says she is good for nothing…no problems…anyone else try to do or say the same things about his sister…NNB…there will be hell to pay…and I already know this at that tender age…
(to be continued…)
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Originally Posted by
Wizrd
Hey sis…
I picked up on your siggy not because I’m nosey….was just going to point out to you your state of mind when writing that…kinda in answer to your accusation from before…
I know you’re not nosey la.. Haha..
Just that I dun really like to discuss it in public..
That passed, but I’m still on my move on phase..
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Glad you said what you said below though…and we seem to agree on the fundamental fact that both men and women enjoy fun…and dare I say, sex…it is then only a matter of how we get it, right?
Yep.. I agreed though.. That’s okay..
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Please sis…no need to apologise…it was only a matter of perspective…
Well, still need la..
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I understand what you mean sis…glad you can accept my method…
I’m sorry to hear that sis…
Sadly, some guys like to employ the fog of war as their only tactics.
I suppose it’s insecurity or not wanting to miss out for being honest…
But being a guy…I can see where they are coming from…and can only say ‘all is fair in love and battle’…guys must do what they have to do…right or wrong, moral or not…and the ladies have to find ways verify and check merchandise before accepting….something like buyer beware….
It is a dance of sorts after all, and kinda unfair to only blame one side. One team primarily does the offence and one team primarily does the defence…and hopefully the dance is a joyous one for both parties…
The toughest dance is when one side wants to be upfront, but the other side thinks it’s a trick… Neither side can win those…
Well, i don’t really know it for sure..
Just that I asked him, but he said n insisted that he’s single..
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Please tell me, if you can spare the time…what is this obssession that women have about owning the man 100% when they don’t actually want 100% of the man??
About this, the answer should goes to insecurity and afraid to lose..
There’s so many pretty woman outside. What if he like them more than me?
Some more if the guy have higher cheating risk..
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While you’re thinking…can you please add this question to the production line…
When sex is involved, everyone seem to think or believe that the man gained while the woman lost. Be it reputation, morality, value…did the woman really lose something for having sex with a man?
I ever read this phrase somewhere..
Its said that “Woman lose their brain (ability to think logically) after they have sex with their partner when Man gain their brain (ability to think straight) after had sex..”
It should be something like that la..
My memories isn’ t very good..
Me, myself can blame chemistry for that.. Bcos oxytocin screw my mind..
But, I think its because i need thr loving when we’re having sex..
That’s makes me feel fuller as a human being..
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Those tips are like a guide to speed dating…
I share tips on how to bring the horse to the water’s edge…and ways to ‘assist’ the horse to want to willingly drink…but ultimately…it is still up to the horse to drink…this cannot and should never be forced…
If you have read through what I have shared…I gave plenty of examples of failures…and even suggested times to walk away…
It is by no means a sure-win formula…merely to help improve the chance only…and hopefully broken down into understandable and digestible chunks…
Just so you know sis…in another adult site…I ‘share’ similar tips to help women to attract guys and ways to improve their chances of being asked out…this dating game is tough…and we all need all the help we can get…both men and women…but I just dislike playing emotional games…people should be more upfront with their intentions…although I won’t ever win that one…
I’ve read that.. And this answer below is purely based on perception..
I think your guide isn’t a guide to speed dating.. But more like guide to get a woman to have sex with before the night is over.. Or in another word, how to get ONS..
As if you re-read what you post, the goal is having sex.. And not to get to know her properly first for some time (say like 3 days or a week before sex)..
Eg. After you get her in ur bed and you think she’s not that good to keep, i think you’ll fuck her until ur last day of your stay and discard her asap..
Bcos i think you won’t want to know more if she said she dun want.. (like your case with that Australian gal who rejecting u and make you have to find another sleeping partner)..