bro.. mkt rate for all places mite be hard larrr..
I only been to batam.. so if u dun go there.. haha.. i cant help leh.
I do remember once.. long long time ago.. where those indon gals do a funny trick. when going ktv wif them, they always order pepsi n red bull.. and they mix n drink.. this usually make them bleed(from their pussy) after one round of sex.. or even b4 sex… den u cant fark them liao lor.
But got one time.. i go wif fren.. den dis gal tried the same trick.. I quickly drink the red bull.. din let her touch it at all.. and din allow her to order any mre red bull. dat nite her face black black.. my face mre black.. n i told her.. if no fark.. i return her to her mummy.. wa.. den she gwai gwai listen to me.. let me fark 3 times that nite.. in the end.. tip her abit.. she den so happy.. i told her.. if u be nicer to me.. mre tips.. she look at me blur blur..
haiz.. some hor.. if not most working gals.. do silly n stupid things de la.
Stopped posting for awhile but cannot resist replying… Salute Lao jiao like you lah TS…
Sometimes these new girls really need to learn we not all carrot heads to be chopped
no violence inflicted on girls so far but I have made a handful cry with just my words after they make me super dulan… They think we cheongsters dunno market… Sometimes if you Lao jiao you need to hint at the beginning, so they know not to mess with you. Talk about the OKTs, their nicknames, what they look like, the rates and the mannerisms and working styles of each (you cheong enough and chat enough you learn a lot about the market
), the charges for a SP, WP, etc, the rents… So far that’s the best way I know to make girls don’t chut pattern with you.
Have done the free overnights at their places, the short trips to places with luo di qians, the visits to China, so far very few patterns. Treat them right if they treat you right and you will go a long way. 交友要交心. I have come across super hot FLs but poor service, maybe sometimes lanjiao itchy go back try luck one more, two more times. But these usually never turn out well. The ones that really become friends, fbs, companions are the good service, good temper ones. FLs are like regular women, when they look for partner they also want assertive men not “yes-men”. Stick by your principles like TS here and you’ll meet women who respect you for just that. I suspect TS here got longer term “friendships” he havent or won’t share
interesting reads. better than those sex stories or FRs. camping for more.
will give TS the due ups when power returns.
salute to TS, never have so much insight of how to befriend a FL and/or WL.
Keep the information flooding in….
bro newbie boy
wat is luo di qians?? i blur liao
honestly, the gals haf to noe one thing la.. custys can find other gals if the one they r wif dun gif them wat they want. There r plently out there if u not too choosy.
So, the smart ones will use KC to lure back custys.. KC can be attained (imho) by really understanding that men like to feel shiok.. that to me should be the first principle the gals haf to noe.
Second is.. Never.. and I mean NEVEr ever offend the custy. U got temper, u got principle.. den better not dally too long in this trade.. cos competition will leave u eating the dust. Gals who think rtf custys can be anyhow handle r jus dumb n silly. RTF u once, u better use KC n all cust svc skills u can muster to make this custy come back again.. and again n again.
Dun try to be extraordinary n scold la, mock la.. tell custy he cant satisfy u la.. dick not long enuf la.. make love cant last long la.. all these.. definite no nos. guarantee to make a gal sit n wait for custys who r pervs or like to be scolded and humiliated.. n these still got.. but harder to come by.
I cant stress the art of conversation enuf.. it is one thing to “entice” the gal to reveal mre to u. Tell her stories abt other gals.. good ones dun nid stress… tell them the funny or weird ones.. if u dun haf.. get from others u noe who haf.. n use them to ur own.. make them laff.. make them tell u mre abt their custys.. their regulars.. and they sometimes will reveal those they dun like.
Pay attention to why they dun like these men.. cos if they stress they r “stingy”, “calculative”.. then chances are the gal is leanning towards gold-digging.. so best be on guard for her KC powers.
However, if she cites that they haf weird habits or BO or other stuff.. that’s not related to money or gifts.. just listen n remember.. cos u mite get o “cross-paths” wif them here.. or in other forums. Wif this info.. u can use to get mre info from those men.. if u know how to get to know them.
Sometimes, fishing them out when u submit a FR is the best way.
Now, why do i say to fish these men out? cos.. u can always get info from them.. n cofirm wif them (if u wan) on the info the gal gave u. Most times weird habits might be true.. so skip those… but the “stingy” n “calculative” ones.. find out.. get to know them.. compare notes.. and this will help u guard against the gal’s KC powers.
But I must warn u, the info shared by these ppl who the gals “shun” might not be true. So u haf to be ur own judge.
It is in my experience that most.. if not all WLs haf mre than one RTF or regular that they keep quite close.. giving them mobile ctcs, QQ (for PRCs) n even home phone nmbers n addresses. These r the very smart ones who spread their nets wide. They do so most cos they wan to get the ones who haf the spending power. If they go out wif u, n u show them u r willing to spend alot on them.. u will get into their good books.
But.. these r the ones I usually dun go to. Why waste my hard earned money over expensive gifts for these “gold-diggers”? If they wan to be my gf, den go wif me to hawker centres.. cos I dun eat at restaurants allt he time. And if u think they want to be ur wife eventually.. u may only be10% correct.
Pay real close attention to the signals that the gals gif out.. cos the amateurs let slip things that they dun even noe about.
I will discuss that later… now.. I will devote a small section to a question by a forumite who pmmed me n asked , “if i get a Fl.. and during BJ.. she refused to BBBJ.. and like only like abit n want me to do intercourse.. do i go all the way or stop n pay for the bj to cut my losses on a most likely bad fcuk?”
First of all.. if u wan to go all the way.. willt eh gal gif u enuf time to do ur deed? if yes.. n ur didi is hard enuf from her light capped BJ.. then by all means… but I suggest u tell her to use positions that u dun like.. or doggie fcuk her wif all ur might n think that u r fcuking an ugly dog.. u might last longer.. and dat shud gif u some revenge on her lousy bj n less dan worthy svc.
However.. if it were me.. i will just stop.. cos no BBBJ (unless none was promised b4 meetup).. and throw her 30sgd n faster dress n get out.
I won’t want to pay full sum cos this kind of gal might be doing it often to make cheongsters dulan n “makan” them by asking for full amount when she only did BJ. Dun let them off so easily for trying to cut corners.
My best experience however.. was when a FL I got from here.. just capped me n licked abit here n there on my shaft.. den asked me o go ontop.. i pushed her on the bed and told her.. I haf not had my fun yet.. n pointed to my limp didi.. “see.. how to screw u wif dis”. she then commented, “cannot stand up still want to come out to fcuk gals.. cheh..”
By this statement.. I just ignored her and just used my hands and mouth to mash and lick n suck her breasts n nipples till she shouted “pain.. not so rough”.. then I turned her over.. used my dick to slap her butt till i was hard.. den entered her roughly. The roughness of the actions made me hard faster.. and I pumped wif my eyes closed.. thinking of a face of … Abigail (ya that tranny).. and grabbing her ass as I goggie-farked her wif piak piak sounds… when I felt my didi soften.. I opened my eyes.. and used my hands to slap her butt.. she screamed and it turned a little red.. she tried to turn.. but I held her firm… and continued to fcuk like dat.
it was clost to 18mins of pure hard fcuking.. in the climax.. she was also perspiring as she was struggling to get me off her.. but I did feel her shudder abit.. so I guess she had an orgasm b4 I cummed. Wif her head on the mattress.. her ass high in the air.. she just panted and I slide my dick out of her.. went to bathe and just dropped the money on the bed for her to collect.. she couldn’t even open her eyes properlly.. that was one.. and only ONCE that I had done something like dat. I dun regret it.. but I won’t do it again… why? cos now I wan my money to be spent on good fcuks… leave the aggression to punching bags and such.
hiong di.. wa.. u like pouring out emotions leh..??
siami dai chi??
suddenly transfer ur gong li to others ah?
pei fu pei fu.
I learnt a lot from u over the years liao la.. think its gud u pass on some exp n info onto others.
actually hor, KC power hard to guard de la.. if u RTF means u like something abt gal.. tio bo?
so if u like.. means def to KC drop.. haha.. but like u say la.. can tell from gals’ reaction n little things de.
I rembr one time when i RTF a FL.. fcuk halfway her period come.. KNN.. haf to stop.. n i PCC lor.. she even offered to let me continue as she say wear cd ok wor.. but fark la.. see red how to do.. some mre i chnese ma.. see this type.. feel not lucky de.. haiz
den she say since come red.. ask me if free to go jalan jalan.. so.. on lor
walk cheena town.. go bugis… eat.. even see show.. she hold hands wif me.. in cinema let me ruba ruba her boobs… shiok.
but during dinner.. she got alot of smses.. so i told her, “aiya, switch off la.. eat first.” suddenly she black face n say, “u mad ah? mind ur own biz n eat la!!”
I was shocked.. so I said, “u mad at me for wat? i just asking u to eat first leh.” she then scold me, “none of ur biz la.. u eat la.. dun bother abt me.”
I got so pissed, I ate.. dump 30sgd on the table n left. I left cos not the first time her temper show liao. One time i joke wif her, cos she say want to marry n live in sg.. so i say, “I first choice, rite?” her eyes look at me from corner n said, “in ur dreams..” that time I lun.. but not happy.. cos she dare to say that.. n is not a joke.. de face she show.. say a lot.
I was thinking.. “tamade.. uncle gif u face to rtf u.. at least u make me feel shiok.. nbz.. u gif me dat kind of fark face n make me dulan.. nvm.. i see wat else u do.”
den.. after i left.. she smsed me, “ur money dam big ah? bring me eat at lousy eatery.. others bring me to eat at high class restaurant.. even bring me to 5 star hotel.. u keep ur 30 dollar la.. i can pay for myself.”
From dat day, I nvr return to see her.. and after a week.. she started smsing me.. saying “y u no come see me” “i miss u”.. i replied “u dun rembr scolding me meh? u still wan to see me meh? or nobody come find u cos ur temper dam fark up?”
in the end.. i heard she piss off a number of custys.. so biz turned bad… mm.. i think u got up her once olso bro.. kekeke…
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it was clost to 18mins of pure hard fcuking.. in the climax.. she was also perspiring as she was struggling to get me off her.. but I did feel her shudder abit.. so I guess she had an orgasm b4 I cummed. Wif her head on the mattress.. her ass high in the air.. she just panted and I slide my dick out of her.. went to bathe and just dropped the money on the bed for her to collect.. she couldn’t even open her eyes properlly.. that was one.. and only ONCE that I had done something like dat. I dun regret it.. but I won’t do it again… why? cos now I wan my money to be spent on good fcuks… leave the aggression to punching bags and such.
Dude, this is too rough. I think you shouldn’t recommend people do that.
Ok.. on y it is up to u when cheoning to cut ur loses n stop action after BJ or wat was offered as BBBJ was not delivered or sub par or unsatisfactory or worse..
first of all.. ur dick may be hard liao… if stop.. u may haf to PCC somewhere.. (if u super horny like me) or ur dick half hard.. and tho u dun like the svc.. u still can fark the living lights out of the gal.. for revenge or wat..
note.. if u can last over 10 mins farking the gal.. by all means go ahead if u wan some revenge.. but it aint gona get u much satisfaction cos the gal might be screaming n scolding u or wriggling n even bump u off n stop all herself.
my experience is to stop everything.. pay the gal 30sgd for the bj or watever it is claimed to be and dress fast n get the hell out of there.
u can be diplomatic.. say u got a call.. (set an alarm b4 bonking.. so mobile will ring nomatter good bonk or not.. it helps)..
or u can be brutally honest n tell the gal, “ur svc sucks n I dun wan to continue.. "
whichever way u want to do it, the gal will noe u din like her svc.. cos even if u did get a call n its urgent.. farking her is probably only going to take less than 15mins.. so 20mins to do rest n get the fark out of there.
the point that YOU are LEAVING b4 the real action.. means u dun think so highly of her svc (be it looks, or svc or wat).. and hopefully this will signal her to wakeup (but seldom happens wif thickheaded PRCs who offer lousy svc la)
The good ones will probably accept ur money and help u dress n I got one who effered me a discount on my rtf.. less 30sgd next time i see her.
but these r rare. cos the smart ones r booked solid.. n has a big bunch of regulars who rtf them countless times.
so be wise bros.. gals who serve u bad, better cut ur losses cos it mite mean they did it b4 and forced others to pay for full n got away wif it n so trying it on others… u may get a freaky situation where the gal insists u pay full for a farking lousy bj
If u stand ur ground, be prepared to get ugly.. but most times.. I haf seen gals get shocked by my retort, “if i dun pay full then u do wat? call police? call ur mafu? do it la.. I wait.”
usually the gals will back down if u pay something for the bj n refuse not paying for anything u din do. those who dare try funny stuff surely haf backing.. n if they dare go thru wif their threats, well.. u haf to be prepared to show that u din do anything.
but really.. from my experience.. any stoopid gal willing to pull this kind of trick n dare go all the way to call for backup is asking for trouble.. as YOU can call police at anytime.. and she will face soliciting customers.. and most likely be sent back
Only thing is.. do u dare call police??
this is y FRs r important for cheongsters going for FLs
n honest FRs need to be shared.. honest cheongsters need to be respected n cherished
Some ppl ask me how to prolong bonking..
err.. this abit hard, as everyone is different, in size, stamina and physique.
But, one thing I haf learnt from my bonking n cheoning experience.. is to prolong the foreplay… not the gal on u.. but u on the gal.
let me put it dis way.. most gals dun like u to take too long when u ruba ruba them or lick n suck their boobs or finger them or play tongue-fu on their pussies.. is cos u will prolong the time of the session… and most times.. ur excitement will calm down when u take ur time to play wif their “goods”.
Experienced gals in this trade may not want u to finger them (cos they dun want rough ones to scratch their insides of their pussies.. or haf long fingernails gif them any infections.. some cos they r sensitive n scared expert bonkers will make them high or cum when fingering).. some will olso not allow u to tongue-fu them cos they dun like it or r really too sensitive.
Not many WL would like to have like over 2 orgasms per custy.. it doesn’t help ALL of them in this trade.. some get too tired after ONE orgasm.. and some feel a sense of guilt if they cum olso.
So how do u convince the gal to allow u to handle their “goods”?
My method is to let them know that I wud get mre excited if I play wif their boobs, see their pussies up front.. and if they react more.. I will probably cum faster (which is a LIE.. if they feel dam gud n show it. . I last longer.. ahaha)
Sometimes, compliments get u a long way… I once told a GL WL wif B cup boobs that they looked perfectly shaped.. and seemed to be bigger than the cup size she mentioned. (i always ask them for their sizes.as I say, others say but I see u like bigger leh).
That gal was so happy she let me played wif her boobs for over 10mins.. n kept asking me.. r my nips getting erect? I feel dam gud.. do they look too weird when erect? I just mumbled “mmff.. verffy.. nicfffe… prefffty.. n biffffg.. befst…” In fact.. she almost got an orgasm from my mouthing n manhandling.
oops.. dinner time.. continue later
haha bro feral.. i ok only la.. some bros here even more powderful den me
Ok.. continue
Also remember to be gentle wif ur mouthing n manhandling (i noe it can be hard.. but too rough n u might spoil ur chances to do mre.. so LUN de best u can) . and always keep ur fingernails well managed.. not long n dirty.. clip it at least once every 2-3 weeks.. so dat when gals let u play wif their boobd.. u wun scratch them.. this can also save u time when u wan to go further south.
ok.. for the gals with the resistance on ur tongue-fu advances.. this will be a bit tough.. fingering is a tad easier.. u just haf to maintain well maintained fingernails n make sure nails not too long n dirty.. and do it when u playing wif their boobs.. slide ur hands down their bodies.. down the stomach slowly.. rub their bellies a bit (some gals luv this.. if u can practice on ur pets.. dogs n cats.. better.. den u will noe how hard u can go b4 ur pet makes noise or bite or scratch u).. or down their sides.. but some r ticklish here.. so best bet is stomach.. then.. (try use one hand) slide over their thighs.. up n down.. slowly.. kneading their flesh if u can.. SLOWLY.. GENTLY..
Then.. slowly move ur (one hand) over their crotch.. cup it and use ur palm t gently massage the top of their crotch.. dun use ur fingers too fast.. feel the crotch.. if moist fast.. finger can slowly circle around the lower crotch (near their pussies if it’s there.. some gals position diff.. all bodies diff).. if ur fingers hit their pussy lips.. be extra careful.. dun forcefully insert.. instead make circles over the pussy.. n lips.. tease abit.. not too hard.. very lightly n gently circle ur fingers over her pussy
Ok.. all this time is if she allow u to go there.. but if gal resists n tries to stop u.. u can try to ask them “can I see it up close?” If they ask “wats so nice to see?” try something like, “it feels so warm (if u were able to touch abit)” or “my gf/wife/lover/etc nvr let me see.. i get so turned on when I see it up close.. can I please?” This can cause gals to be curious and ask back, “y they dun let u see?”
My best response so far, “they think it’s dirty r scared they smell bad.. but it so far from ur nose.. how u noe?” (i got a WL blurt out a laff.. n then opened up proudly) or.. “I don’t know.. but it makes me so excited.. i think all pussies r beautiful, I think urs looks mre beautiful then some of the gals i bonked b4”
rembr, compilments can get u far.. so dun be afraid to be thich-skin
if u got to face (n i do mean it literally) the gal’s pussy.. take ur time to admire it up close (ok.. if it looks bad.. better skip this whole part n say something like.. “oh.. so this is how it looks like.. same as in science books” n move back up)
but if it dun look bad (most do maintain their money-making “machine”) move closer.. take a whiff if u dare (i noe some dun.. I always try.. only bad ones were those who were FLs n din wash themselves carefully in Sg.. weather in Sg is hot n humid.. un pay attention.. the smell will get u).. try to move close so that ur nose is exhaling onto their pussy.. or exhale thru ur mouth onto their pussy.. the warm breath can excite them.. or calm them down a notch.
now… always.. n i do mean always (unless the action so hot dat u dun nid ask anything n she allow u go down south without any communication needed) ask if u can use ur tounge-fu on her
“ke yi ma?” a simple “can I?” will do.. no nid say “can i eat u ou” or “can I taste u”.. they will understand ur intention if u haf reached this stage
take note of what the gals say at this point.. One gal told me, “dun bite me.. one custy bit me.. very pain”.. so LISTEN cos if u dun pay attention.. wat follows later can make ur whole session a downer
Ok.. i wun stress on wat technique to use.. cos all r good.. it all depends on how de gal feels.. if u got the right move that gal likes.. u can carry on till they actually cum.. mose WLs can fake this.. some will help u out by giving u sounds to encourage u.. sometimes its hard to differentiate real from fake.. but who cares as long as they let u do ur thang.
ok.. i will skip finger olso.. cos its hard to say how u insert wat n how u use.. I’m sure there’s alot of vids n sites that teach this liao.. my post here is to get u to coniince the gal to LET u do it
So.. if u convinced the gal to let u do ur thang.. u probably wud haf extended the session by perhaps around close to 10mins mre..or maybe 3-5mins mre.. depending on how patient u n de gal is.. n how gud ur techniques r.
and by this over 3mins or foreplay.. ur level of excitement might have even dropped abit.. ur erection may even dip a bit.. which will require her to BBBJ u abit mre (not advisable for those who r sensitive to this).. or u can ask the gal to use her hands to wake ur lil bro up.. some gals will haf gud hands.. n use soft touch to do it.. others.. on rush.. will cap u n shake ur didi like a luminous night-stick.. (of course they won’t crack it first la.. u will need ambulance de).. but that kind of shake sometimes works for me.. but it can be rough n sometimes painful
however.. I found that gals who shake my lil bro.. actually cause me to last longer.. as my erection will not be too strong.. thus i will enter her on a 3/4 erect state.. the feeling n sensation will not be so great.. n I will haf to slowly build up my full erected state.. n sometimes this might take another 1-2 mins of farking..(no joke.. dun go fast here.. u might hurt urself if not fully erect.. u can insert.. but going fast might bend or.. “break” it)
Ok.. now.. I’m not suggesting u try all my suggestions n techniques.. but the above works for me.. n honestly.. my stamina grew wif more sustained exercises over time (2-3 times a week) either jogging, cycling or swimming.. wif simple gym workouts.. bench presses and all that.
work on ur squats, so that ur lower back can sustain ur thrusting.. do leg raises too to strenghten ur back n hips.. simple sit-ups r also good.. push-ups help ur arms n shoulders n upper body strength.. trust me.. if u like to carry gals legs .. u nid strength.. or else.. fark a bit only u pant like a dog in hot weather.
Ok.. take care bros n cheongsters.. cheong safely..