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BGNeo
Bro Tension68,
Have to agree with u on what u have posted so far, cannot treat those PRC that treat u like trash well.
Hope u can share ur experiences on how to handle those REALLY expert in KC ones, i got a friend who went to this “Facial Hub” and fell for this PRC, he now quite jia lat emotionally. The girl now don’t even return his calls/sms, I being his good friend have to stand by him which is tiring for me.
Hope u can share some tips and experiences and best way to counter act these Tactics they do, and oh ya one more thing is it true that some of these KC experts go through some training or courses how to hook man, i heard from a friend no idea how true?
bro.. no sure method.
U just nid to keep one thing in mind.
You spend money on them.. besides SEX, companionship (to a certain degree) wat else can they gif u?
dun forget, she is from PRC. Who is waiting for her in PRC? do u noe?
cud be bf, fiance’ or hubby n kids even.. even for mms at age 20+, they cud be mothers n u nvr noe unless got stretch marks.. n even this can be removed wif good cosmetic surgery.
as for going thru training.. tat i duno.. but I do noe they get tips from their frens or “sisters”, n some r reali bad advice n bad advisors.
bad advice or bad advisors can be cos jealous n so wan to ruin it for the gal.. or jus duno SG men or men in general.
if gal spends a lot of time on phone but dun wan u to hear or let u hear wad she say, one sign that either she consulting for advice, or toking wif bf/fiance/hubby/other custs.
Seriously, after fcuking them n they got ur money.. wad else do u want?
marry them? culture is diff, thinking is diff, and u duno her background.. think hard on this.
Unless u go visit her home, spend some time wif her there.. try to understand how she lives, and get an idea of what she wants.. then perhaps u might wan to consider other options.
if u haf the money.. bao her in PRC lor.. dun do it here la.. too ex. I noe some ppl here who has the means do it. U set her up in a place in PRC, not too ex. and maybe even send her to a school or training centre to learn some stuff.. mms might grab for u. Why? cos lodgind is provided liao.. so she can sleep.. and when u go visit her.. no nid go hotel.. and she gets to pick up a skill n not waste time idling away or try to FL to get money or meet guys to drive away the boredom.
but be prepared if u do bao her in PRC.. when u r not around.. nothing to stop her from seeing other men. Not unless u hire PI to trail her.
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Originally Posted by
facuv
To a certain extent, i now find those that have regularly cheong/RTF amazing. How do you not like the girl after regular RTF? And not get vulnerable to the girl getting “lazy”.
Meeting new girls are so cumbersome as well, as there is always risk of bad service.
And the experiences are quite interesting.. maybe you should write a book -“The wisdom of paying for sex”
bro.. write book nids alot of stories.. i alone might not haf enuf for book.
wif mre experienced bros here who willing to collaborate.. cud be possible.
n i do agree wif u on the RTF thing. First of all, if svc gud u rtf once or twice.. but if only svc gud n nothing else.. other gud svc providers olso haf wat.
The basic thing y someone chooses to RTF one WL mre than 3 times is not just based on gud svc alone. IMHO, looks, chemistry (how both interact n respond to one another), and a like-factor for the other person. We humans r emotional creatures.. if we like something, we will engage in that something mre.
So, if u like to eat bak kut teh, chances are, u will eat that mre than other kinds of food.. when going to a eatery where selection of bkt is available.
If u like sex, u will find ways of doing it.. whether masturbating or paying.. down to committing crime like molestation n rape.
And if u like someone, u will most likely want to go meet up n see them mre often.
So, RTF is one indication that custy likes the WL/FL. The gals noe this too.. so they try their KC power if they wan to.. or whenever they can. Y? cos playing the KC factor builds up mre relationship points for them.. and the like-factor can increase n even branch to loyalty factor.
It is not uncommon that if u like someone, u can eventually develop a kind of loyalty to that someone. Eg, fighting for them when they get bullied or watever. hence, y so many war of words happen when someone puts up a bad FR on a WL. the cheongster who likes this WL, if having read it.. will almost definitely fight for the WL.
And in all fairness, that’s fine.. but if that war of words gets too long-drawn.. and then becomes personal.. it does no-one any gud.
Hart to stay reasonable all the time.. but always take a look on the other party’s view.. and maybe things wun go too nasty.
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Tension68
No la, she in KL la.. i can’t fly to KL to meet her in short notice.. no actual biz up there.. n no reason to gif to sneak over there for mre than 2 days..
.. bro.. this ex-GL was way way b4 i met JS la.. u forget I cheong GL for how long liao meh?
Not JS ah?
but u say got QQ ctc leh.. i saw u post request for her QQ.. no?
paiseh la. but i reali curious wor..
so how much u intended to gif in ang pao.. n how much u reali gif ah?
i nid to learn olso.. b4 i go prc land to shiok shiok
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Originally Posted by
Compass68
Not JS ah?
but u say got QQ ctc leh.. i saw u post request for her QQ.. no?
paiseh la. but i reali curious wor..
so how much u intended to gif in ang pao.. n how much u reali gif ah?
i nid to learn olso.. b4 i go prc land to shiok shiok
.. wakao bro.. u still like last time.. still so curious hor?
dis ex-GL is also PRC la.. n i pm ppl to ask for her QQ. JS was not the first PRC WL i patronized.. I met this one 1 yr b4 JS wor.
She got into a fight wif a hse gal over a custy la.. she found out this hse gal saying bad things abt her to her regular custy.. and so the regular see the hse gal n stop seeing her. So argue.. den become a tussle.. n catfight.. got sent home.. hmm.. quite like JS.. no wonder u suspect. But unlike JS, she did not hit hse gal.. is like a cat fight.. JS whallop the gal.. haha.
N strangely enuf, most PRC gals go to other cities in SEA after stint in SG GL.. think is cos easy to go in..
amount ah? mm.. in that country currency i put 8888. But i reduced it to 388 after her temper flare n wat not.
Ok, some thoughts on how u might wan to handle a gal when u meet them overseas.
I dun wan to stress about the hotel la.. oledi done that.
I will explain about one thing tho.. y i choose hotels that serve breakfast or y i decide to choose no breakfast.
First, if u go to overseas and haf arranged to meet a gal there, assuming that gal u oledi noe for quite a while.. u might consider no breakfast.
Y i say that? Ok, cos breakfast usually served very early, 6am-10am (others may differ like 7am or wat but i stick to this la). And if u noe the gal.. chances are you might want to stay in bed longer.. to allow her, n urself, ample rest.. to wake up fresh for a morning fcuk.. then go about ur biz..
My rationale is, she might come long way to meet u.. let her rest lor.. treat it like a gud vacation for her.. no stress on waking up early for food.
But of course, there is a good side to waking up for the breakfast.. u wake her up.. after food.. can always get a morning workout before heading out.
Another reason for not taking breakfast is.. cheaper hotel charges.. u save at least sgd 50 or mre.. depending where u go.. cos most breakfast is buffet.. n its not cheap.
But let’s say u o there, get a gal, then get her to stay wif u for one day or whole trip.. den breakfast is a very good idea. I
First, it forces the gal to wake up early to go eat wif u. Trust me, the mms wun wan to miss the chance for free buffet. And if they dun wan eat, u can tell them, i go get some food for u.. n u go.. fill urself.. get some back.. and when u bring it back.. u can ask for fcuk b4 she eats.. telling her “do first la.. otherwise eat liao u might feel uncomfortable”
Ok, moving on. When u meet gals overseas.. always go there to check in to hotel way before the gal arrives. Never ever meet gal in airport.
Firstly, this avoids u from having to buy anything at the airport for her. (ya, i el cheapo). Then, u can also get familiar wif surroundings of hotel b4 she arrives. Never tell her ur actual arrival time.. tell her when u reach hotel u give her a call.. or arrange for her to come at least 2 hrs after u arrive.
This is so u can make sure the place is safe. i once had a fren who said he got robbed when he reach the hotel wif the gal.. just after coming out of the lift. He had told the gal his rm number b4 he made the trip.. and met her at the airport. Later on, he suspected her of leaking info to the robbers.. and sent sms to them when they just arrived at the hotel, as he saw her texting vigourously.
So, nvr reveal ur rm number until u reach the hotel.. and then call the gal. U can tell the gal the hotel name.. but rm number may be hard cos u wud only noe after u check in.. unless special arrangements.. like my fren.
Ok, moving on.. when u r overseas or going out wif gals.. nvr.. ever put all ur money in ONE place. Split it up into 2 or 3 places.. places where u can store n hard for her to dig out.. so that if kena rob.. not all is lost. This is also another reason why u shud arrive at hotel early.. way b4 ur gal.
And.. nvr ever let ur gal noe how much u REALLY brought to meet her. I haf noticed gals will stay close by ur side when u make payment.. checking out ur wallet.. if u reali did split ur money.. then showing how much money shud be ok.. cos not all is in ur wallet.
This is also a way to test n observe how the gal reacts when seeing how much u haf in ur wallet. KC experts will not show emotions.. but amateurs.. or low power ones will probably reveal their true emotions. From here, u can then decide how best to proceed.. for this I mean.. whether to treat them better.. that is when they dun show any emotion… or to reserve ur money to buy ex gifts until u observe mre.
Ppl might call me evil for doing all these tests n observations.. but my money is not for dumping all on these gals. I have a budget in mind.. and if they dun make me feel good.. tho i may not show it.. I will return the favour.
It’s a fair trade afterall.. u book the room.. pay for food, maybe clothings, cosmestics and other simple stuff.. so why nid to buy too ex items? I shun designer shops or boutique shops.. cos to pay ovr sgd 300 for a dress is ridiculous. I dun even pay 200 for a shirt.. y shud i splurge for them?
Unless they gif me so gud GFE, non-stop sex.. no reject anything i ask.. nvr reject my advances or requests for sex.. then.. I will consider something for them.. but still it is up to ME. Not them. They can ask.. but I will be the ultimate determinant on what they get.. not the other way around.
Sometimes this may irk the gals.. and they may turn cold to u.. this is when u haf to decide.. to continue wif the gal (who in this case is a low power kc user).. or to accede to their request for that item they want.
My suggestion is.. tell them.. One item.. but specify the limit u wun go over.. and tell them ONE time only. Remind them that u not here to waste money on luxury items.. but rather to make their long-term life better.. like giving them money.. how they spend is their biz.. so buy items.. lesser money u can gif them. Or.. buy them stuff that will benefit them.. books on English lessons.. I did that for one gal.. wif dvd and all.. she was most happy.
Facial products or health supplements.. these will also show the gal u r thinking for them.. n not making use of them (but in fact u r making use of them in a way).. so they may feel better.
Always stress that luxury goods won’t do them any good.. but health is most important.. and to learn a skill can help them later on in life.. when their looks cant command a proper client.. if they still ply the trade.
Communication is key.. and if u get a gal wif a bad temper.. good luck to you. So.. it’s reali up to how u handle the gal.. but for me.. the above steps.. esp the hotel.. n splitting of money.. certainly helped me siff out money-grabbers from sincere gals who were just happy to see me.. and liked that I was looking after and out for them.
Ok.. laterz..
One of my frens (from cheong buddy to fren) read my this thread and asked me.. how can u tell if a gal is reali out for ur money when u meet her outside.. or if she is reali KC expert?
My answer.. sometimes it is easy.. other times it is hard.
And to spot them, u too must haf some acting skills.
When shopping, if she drags u around to look at clothings, bags, cosmestics n other stuff.. n then lets u pay.. or asks ur opinion.. chances are.. they wan u to spend n spend.
KC experts dun usually do this. One good example is, they go after food.. they ask u to recommened the food.. and may choose the mre upscale places if they hear it from u.. n of course, since food is a sustenance.. u r most likely not to disagree.. n in fact.. u will tend to go along as u dun want to be shown as too el cheapo.
If a KC expert observes u well.. they wun bring u to go wif them for clothing shopping.. but instead go for daily items, liquid soap, towels, toothbrush.. these will not cost too much.. but if they go for good quality items.. it wun be too cheap either.. depending on the location where u shop.
And if they see bargains, and drag u along.. n pick items for the both of u.. saying price ok for getting one for u n me.. chances are.. they r looking out for ur wallet.. and this still doesnt declassify them from KC experts.. as experts will use this to build up mre relationship points.
In fact, the one way where u can catch a KC expert.. is thru chatting wif her. Normal chat on past custys.. her habits.. her spending.. this will reveal some in fo on how she is living in the current place.
I haf always noticed that after sex.. the gals guard is usually down.. so I ask them about past custys.. most will chat.. saying that some got very pretty dicks.. some got funny habits, some el cheapos and all.
One gal.. told me that she recently split wif a guy.. and she angrily returned him a samsung tablet.. which she regrets now.. she said the guy dumped her n said, “i dun wan to block ur path to riches”. Note.. this is a warning to me… cos it usually speaks volumes of the agenda of the gal…that she is out for money.. and will find means ot get it.
This also tells me that the gal is very short on temper and not thinking rationally but mre emotionally.. cos she gave the guy back the samsung tablet.. even tho the guy din ask for it.
This kind of info will get my guard up.. and I will tend to observe mre on the gal’s moves when she is wif me. Mre calls on phone will mean I haf to listen carefully to wat she is saying to the other party too. Cos these will be clues that will help later.
In addition, contradictions in her statements will also reveal the KC user.. whether expert or amateur.. cos they can nvr be perfect. Sometimes, cos they play KC wif too many ppl, they mess up wif the info.. and if they tell u something new but adds “i told u before wat”.. even tho u din hear it b4.. it is an indication that she has mre stuff that she may not haf revealed.. or is hidding. U can then u can dig out info that try to dig.. by saying “oh.. i forgot la.. say again .. that was so long ago..”
Then u can dig out info that was not revealed to u b4.
I gif oe example, the ex-GL gal told me of how fierce the competition was in the ktv/club she is in now (i dun wan use names cos she is still there) and that she regretted her actions when in GL.
Then.. when later I asked if she cud return to GL, she then said, I dun wan go back to work in GL, go back as FL or ktv/club ok la. GL wun earn much.
I duno about u.. but this tells me that the gal has lived the fast n easy money of ktvs/clubs and tho competition is hard n fierce.. she cant go back to GL cos the money is mre.. that is a bad sign to me. Cos whe u scale a higher on the salary ladder, it is hard to go back down.. very hard. U will do almost anything to maintain that.. and that is when relationships n other things sour n suffer.
Past clients who paid GL prices b4 might not want to meet.. cos they feel the price is not withing their budget.. n plus.. if not in sg.. might be hard to arrange timing and accommodation too.
And when the gal told me how much she earns in one tai (sitting).. I felt a lump in my heart.. cos I felt as tho she is expecting alot mre from me for our meetup.
Altho she didnt say it.. the feeling on my part is that.. if u dun gif enuff.. she will definitely not see me again.. err.. to be continued.. go lunch now
bro.. i getting mre curious liao…
so dis ex-GL WL told u b4 she not like u in any special way?
den she got back wif her PRC ex-BF?
but then when in err.. SEA where ah?… still ctc u ask u meet her>
den when meet.. tell u she broke off wif ex-BF, also broke off recently wif another guy who gave her samsung tablet.. which she return.. n now she regret.. n say guy told her he dun wan block her road to riches?
den can scold u cos u stare at her using her phone??
… wow.. u cust or she cust ah? y she so fierce?
when u meet her? recent?
bro, last year liao.
actually dis ex-GL gal lost ctc in QQ for like close to 8mths.. then resurface and tell me she around SEA.
to be honest, not first time FL or WL appear in or around SEA.
Got one time FL go to HK to do FL.. ask me go there to meet her.. at first i dino she doing FL there. Until I reach HK, finger itchy b4 i meet her.. check up 141.. wa.. saw her pic.. only nipples censor .. when she meet me.. she din say.. so i olso pretend
Until b4 she wana leave.. i ask to take pic.. den show her the pic i downloaded from the 141.. she lan lan.. allow me take pic.. n next day i ask her meet again.. we even made movie.. hahaha..
but honestly.. dis ex-Gl is last yr.. early july ask me go meet her.
very surprised olso.
tot she learnt her lesson n control her temper.. but nope.. still the same.. i even told her.. ur temper got u to be sent back home last time.. u dun wan to control urself n not make same mistake again>
she din even think.. n said, “im lidat.. i cant change.”
haiz.. bo pian lor.
Now i only hope JS not so unwise.. n i still waiting for her update.. till now.. she has not confirmed if she can come down to JB or not.. haiz…
If go up to KL.. i will be hard-pressed to do so.. air-tix cheaper now.. but hotel not cheap sia.. n problem is how many days I can skip to meet her.. weekends mite be hard.. wkdays even harder to get leave.. sigh.
Ooo… i c i c.
i think hor bro, this gal is dam dumb la
u r the cust.. no matter how close u r wif her.. u r still the cust
if she dun careful n offend u..n worse is she dun even noe she offend u.. den jialat la.
some gals i onz b4 olso a bit cookoo de.. think they so great.. haiz.. the fact is.. we can always look for ANOTHER GAL.. if they make us dulan.. den better not wate time la.
my way is to let them noe that i not happy.. if they dun wake up sia.. den too bad la.. i dun wan waste time olso.
cos hor, my money spend to get my shiokness n my happy feeling.. buay song.. buay gam hor lui
bro.. i think u treat them too nice sometimes olso la.. the ones u like i mean.. haha.. think u wan that GFF rite?
dun waste too much time la.. dis one dun gif.. den find another lor.. sure got one gif de… n hor.. dis one now older rite?
go find one younger den her la.. GL n FLs sure got younger rite?
dun waste time la.. u olso abit romantic sia.. wakaka.. i like to suan u hor bro?
take care la.. i meet u b4 CNY to haf makan or tea la?
bro.. if i meet gal overseas.. im prepared to compensate them de
only thing is.. how much they expect..
the gal in HK.. who allowed me to take movie of us.. was reasonable.. she asked for mkt rate.. around 1k HKD for overnite.. n i paid her 1500hkd.. n den she allowed me to take movie of our bath together.. so I tip another 500hkd.. den we fcuk another round.. taped that also.. n tipped another 500hkd.. she even rejected this last 500 cos she said she was glad i came to see her.
I only stayed in HK for 3 days.. but she came over b4 i left and stayed overnite.. din ask for money.. but i still gave her 1k hkd but she din take.. i was touched.. n slid 800 hkd into her wallet while she din notice.
when i on plane.. she smsed me to thank me.. and said if she ever go sg or hk n see me again.. she will spend one nite wif me.. FREE.. n let me fcuk her non-stop.
now tat’s cust svc. in fact.. when we slept.. i couldnt get my hands off her.. and fondled her boobs.. n slid on a cd n entered her while she half-asleep.. this was on the last nite.. n she din shove me away or reject me.. jus allowed me to do wad i wanted.. shiok…
this kind of gal.. guarantees me to dig out money from my wallet.. without any complaints.
but if gal dun say anything.. n mood swing or even scold me.. well.. cant expect me not to get pissed.. i m human afterall.
sometimes i find it hard to gif a certain amount to compensate a gal.. esp if i duno the mkt rate in that area, place or country.. it wud be hard for me.. n sometimes.. it might insult the gal if i gave any compensation at all.
cos.. hotel rm is i pay, food n drinks is i pay.. if she spend other stuff n i pay olso.. then.. how to come up wif a figure for compensation?
the gal in hk was easy, i din go shopping wif her.. met her.. go to my room.. wham.. go bathe n haf sex.. only had breakfast wif me the next day.. not the hotel one.. but outside.
if bros who got alot of experience in going out wif gals.. esp overseas.. n wif ktv hostess gals.. pls advise me on the mkt rate.. so I can at least dun make a fool of myself in future.
thank you.