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your looks (the gal la)
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your body (diff cust wan diff body type.. but bigger boobs will generally get good attention)
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ur tehness (not surprising that teh can get u mon-neh)
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ur kc power, which includes eq n good read of ppl
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Originally Posted by
soothHerOnlyIf
I share bros sentiments
photos can hardly trust..may be true but a few years ago. they won’t be so nice to update photos with lousier stats.
well.. im not sure abt local okts of FLs
but i tried JBs huashan.. got full face pic.. and its very accurate.
but sometimes the gal pose in such a way to let u think she is tall. but in fact she is not.
n huashan dun gif gal stats.. so.. u see pic.. U decide.
thnx to bros who haf upped me
haf tried my best to return to those who left nicks
if u did up me n i havent return ur upz yet, do gif me a pm.. i might haf trouble finding ur new posts
n.. some haf pmed me to ask for trustworthy OKTs.
to be very honest, I knew of 2 very very long ago.. like over 5 yrs ago.. but haf not heard since.. i was busy.. wif life.. work.. n wat nots.. so lost ctc
if u ask me now.. i cant recommend, ps ps
but.. if u r adventurous enuf, can start on ur own.. or ask for regular cheongsters to “partner” i had done so b4 too. asking for a senior to go cheong together has its ups.. and downs.
ups is.. the bravery factor.. u got a companion.. anything happen.. chances r u r not alone.. but best is wif a senior or experienced one who noe to avoid trouble.. also fun factor.. can share stories n maybe get tips
now.. down factor is.. if see a chio gal.. n both hardup for her.. jialat liao.. do u grab n maybe offend the senior bro? or u let him take? well, i allowed the senior bro to take the chio gal (last time).. but along the way.. he seemed to think that I would allow him to haf first pick EVERYTIME.. i took up my courage n told him frankly.. and this was after mre than 3 occasions he took the gal we both LIKED.. and both said it out too… but he was cool after i said.. “bro.. next time.. we take turns if we see same one we like, ok?”
so.. after that.. if we saw one we both liked.. sometimes we flip coin.. sometimes lom jiam pass.. n sometimes he or me take first.. den second time same place.. the other take.. it was fun that way too. cos we cud share experiences
but.. there was one time when a bro joined me to cheong.. it wasn’t fun.. as he expected me to do all the work for him.. from providing ctcs.. arranging.. to bringing him to the location.. when i asked him to exchange ctcs.. he give excuses mre than once.. until i got fed up.
after that.. any time he called.. i dun answer liao.
one thing.. if u cheong in pairs.. sometimes the gal u or ur fren choose first might recommend u her fren.. my experience is.. to take the recommendations.. as usually the svc wud be gud. Out of 6 times i took recommendations form a gal.. only 1 time disappointed.. and that time only cos the gal moody over a custy b4 me.. bo pian.
ok..will share later
Ok.. was out on xmas n din come on here.
missed some stuff n gained others.
for those who upped me.. n haven got my up yet, pls pm me n post something new. I m sori for late ups.. but busy lately.
Ok.. for those who kena gals to ask u book rooms n arrive late.. i haf this advice. Always inform them that u dun haf much time.. that u only haf a short period b4 going off somewhere. Make it kown to them that u will not wait for more than a specified period of time.. and will go off.
n bros.. make sure when u say this.. dun book the room until the gal arrives.. or else u waste the room charge liao.
I tell u all.. i haf booked rooms n waited for 20mins.. n left the room.. taking in mind that i learnt a lesson wif the 20-30sgd. The gal(s) (only 3 la).. who arrived late all kept smsing n calling me to return.. but i refused as I reminded them “i told u i dun haf much time.. yet u waste my time”
Now.. if gals u arrange one day earlier (usually no okt one), make sure u remind them via sms or call on day (at least 3-4hrs or mre) or else they forget. n if they ask u to foot taxi charge, tell them u will pay if they produce receipt.
I had one gal ask me back, “taxi fot give receipt meh? dun bluff me la” i knew then she din take taxis.
I noe of one gal who operated around GL last time.. n lives there (rent apt/room) but tells ppl she stay somewhere else.. so got to take taxi. she walk to the hotel.. so take some time.. and she always arrive late by 10-15mins.. so like to “show” she really take taxi. Until i told her “u show me receipt, i pay”, she bo pian haf to arrive on time. but her svc was good.. so i rewarded her wif a good tip of 20sgd.. which was mre than the taxi fare she asked for (sgd 10).
she was surprised.. and i told her, “dun be, gud svc will produce gud returns.. try it n u will see” after that.. she got so many return biz, i had a tough time getting her again.
always remember, if the fl shout at u, u can shout back at her.. dun wori one.. cos in PRC, the men do worse things to them.. so shouting is COMMON. if u kena a shouting FL who shout for no reason.. or even when she is in the wrong.. do it back to her.. n see the shock.. cos PRC always tot SG men gentle n kind.. not rough like their PRC men. Until u shout back n tell them off.. they think they OWN u. But be prepared.. cos a rare few will start fights after u shout at them.. cos they feel their pride is “hurt”. so be on ur guard.. be at a safe distance (not far.. cos she might kick ur balls.. but at a position where she cant kick u.. n cant scratch u. women always like to kick n scratch.. so watch for it.
n.. before u shout at them.. better be fully dressed (if u can).. cos things might turn ugly. like if u wan to send the gal away cos she everything say no.. start dressing n best to do it in bathroom wif door closed. (make sure u got all stuff wif u inside la)
i once told a gal (who said no bath together.. no touch or hug b4 bathe.. cannot even see her undress) i wan to pang sai.. so go bathroom.. dress up and den come out n told her “i got to go la.. since we din do anything.. u cna haf the room. (this was another incident not previously related)
anyways, cheong safe and cheong smart. dun kena “makan” n if reali kena cheated.. learn from it n dun kena again. kena once is normal.. kena twice is ignorant.. 3 times.. u better let bangla screw ur ass (joke la).. but pls learn la.. ask around.. read.. search.. pm if u nid to.. but find out for urself
peace out
for the bro who asked abt $$ /1/1
as the quote specifies, price is for one shot or for time period of 1hr.. whichever comes first.. or cums first..(PUN intended)
which is y.. i noe of one cheong buddy.. who when intro chio n solid body FLs or WLs, will go go PCC first b4 going.. cos he scared go in.. round over in less than 15mins.. sometimes he admit.. BBBJ too gud.. he olso surrender.
Now.. ur stamins in sex also reflects ur stamina in sports. Good healthy body = great longer lasting sex (usually.. unless got some other issues)
so, if joggin is ur thing.. do it at least 2 times a week.. for over 30mins to get a good workout.
if brisk walking is mre ur thing.. cos dun wan rigorous n hard pounding o aggravate ur knee n other joints on ur legs.. do is in such a way that u can talk.. but not sing.. n walk for over 30mins too.. or 10000 steps
do stretching, ala warmups b4 exercise.. sex is also a form of exercise.. so.. I usually warmup a little when in the room.. not FLs.. but mre when i go GL.. the WLs find it amusing.. but i tell them “i dun wan pull a muscle when i fcuking u”.. gets them laffing n also breaks the ice
got one time a GL WL started to do stretching wif me. even asked me to press her down when she opened up her legs on the bed and stretched forward.. in the end.. (cos this was b4 bathing).. she turned to gif me a BBBJ cos my dick was so hard n kept hitting her lower back when i pushed her forward.. haha.. she was like..“aiya.. ur didi so hot n hard.. make my back so itchy olso..” in mandarin la.
ok.. honestly.. the time factor is there cos some ppl can really fcuk long.. but for those gud svc gals.. if u cum fast.. n i do mean reali fast.. those in GL will usually offer a 2nd shot. FLs seldom.. n i nvr came across one that did.. tho one did offer 2 shots in 60mins.. i fcuked her for 20mins.. after bathing.. and after over 5mins of bbbj n foreplay.. no 2nd shot after the cleanup.. took like over 40mins.. she did gif me a short relaxing massage tho..
so.. FLs.. u r better off making ur shot last. U shud control the session.. dun let the gal control it. If u noe a particular position makes u esp song.. do it when u reali WANT to cum. N when u feel u r about on the verge of cumming.. slow down.. breathe deeper n slow down ur breath.. or stop and catch ur breath.. let ur dick’s sensation subside a little or take it out n ask for a change of position. all this.. shud help u last a little longer
changign of positions is not a bad thing.. but be careful.. some gals dun like to change too much.. as they will noe that u r prolonging the session.. and might turn the tables on u.. i once had a FL who after i changed 3 positions (mission to her on top, to doggie) turned around n jumped on top of me n just grind her hips onto mine.. it was game over for me then.. song la.. but shyt.. could haf lasted longer.. nowadays.. i dun let them be too aggressive.. i tell them.. dun be too rough.. my knees got operation b4.. n my back got injury when i in army last time.. it works.. lol
thanks to all for upz n appreciate the comments
Ok, for those who din get back my return up, pls pm me in a day.. let me get my rep back n then i can up u.. but rembr to post new stuff.. or else i cant up u back
now. for FLs.. i did mention I dun do warmups.. that’s when I meet new FLs for the first time.. cos I dun wan book rm n wait like a farking dog in heat inside.. if they arrive late by 15mins or mre.. my horniness turn to angriness.
However, for those FLs who r gud svc n I RTF.. I will book room n wait inside.. cos they oledi noe my style.. and wun arrive too late (not mre than 10mins).
This is the time when I cna do warmups in the room. simpel stretching and some pushups n even situps. but mre on stretching.. and maybe stand jogging for like 2-4mins to get the heart going.. which is y some of those FLs i regular last time come into room to find me perspiring.. they tot they r the second gal I called.
Anyways.. here’s a trick to get the gals to bathe wif u.. if the gals at first dun wan to bathe.. u can tell them that u dun like gals who r sweaty n haf a smell.. n if they smell bad.. u will reject.. n u wan to see them bathe in front of u too to ensure they are clean. This is reali last straw la.. cos usually i will tell the gals.. basic svc is bathe custy ma.. no bathe then forget it liao.
In Sg’s weather.. can u imagine if the WL dun bathe? I personally noe of one very bad FL (a very long time ago) who dun wan to bathe.. even after the FJ.. n rush off to meet other custys. After I told her i like clean gals.. she told me “i fcuk around.. how to be clean?”. That’s it.. I told her.. “ok.. den pls leave.. i will find another gal la.” I gave her sgd2.00 n told her to go to public swimming pool to haf a bath.. cheapest way.
she was so offended she started scolding me, “u wan fcuk gal n wan clean gal.. u asking too much!” so i told her, “for me, altho sex is dirty to be enjoyable.. but b4 i get dirty. i wan to get clean.. n to get clean together wif the gal.. is a turnon for me.. if u dun wan.. i find others”
she got stunned and I left her in the room.. saying, “room urs la.. better wash up. sg so hot, sweat only will smell one.”
bro facuv,
if control is ur one area to improve, then FLs may not be the way to do anything about it. rembr, most r here for the quick buck/cash. Unless u really click wif one, or the one reali so dam gud svc.
my suggestion to u.. apart from finding a GF or fuck mate (dun bother wif websites for such fuckmates or fuckbuddies as they jus wan u to sign membership.. ie, pay).. read up on the GL or KS scene.. find one WL who is NOT so popular, but svc still ok and request for 2 shots in one session.
Note.. this is my opinion as not so popular WLs usually will accomodate new custys (to get return biz), and going for a not so popular gal usually means she may need UR biz.. and so will usually treat u better than those FLs who come here for reali short term. GL WLs usually haf a 2 yr contract (from wat i heard).
However, as one session is sgd 150 (unless u go below cat 200), n it might be mre expensive than FLs. But think of this.. GL WLs got medical checkups (compulsory), the rooms r there.. u no nid go find hotel n show IC to hotel staff, and towels r usually cleanned.. sometimes u can use 3 towels n still got mre. Plus, most rooms usually got mirrors.. and when u sit to wait for gals.. can bio the other WLs coming in and out of the houses (this depends on the interior of the house.. some not so conducive for viewing pleasure).
in the end, if u like the WL n visit her one in a month.. or 2 times a month.. u might be surprised on the control issue.
dun forget to exercise.. and read up on (kegel muscle exercises.. they work). Stamina helps.. and a healthy and supple boddy can let u enjoy longer lasting sex (usually la).
take care bro
first of all, if bros here think u spend money n haf to treat WL or FL like they r ur gf or lovers, then fine.. it’s ur choice.. but my point is, simple things like touching, fondling (not rough stuff ah) esp on first meetup, then u wan ur HARD-EARNED money to just go to waste?
Not me. If regular WL or FL n they got bad mood, I can try to understand.. but if they dun apologize or at least explain y they not up to standard.. I can also gif black-face n stay away from them for a while too.
My point is, u wan to spend money to haf a session wif a WL or FL, then in the room she say cannot hug, cannot touch, kiss is subjective to some.. but the smart ones will gif it without question (but french is usually reserved for regulars.. unless it is part of their ;sales gimmick
.. then wat else can u do in the session? Insert and pump, ejaculate n run?
Well, I can’t be like dat. I like to fondle boobs, grab asses(theirs not my own la), hold onto their bodies and perhaps even more.. that for is a session of sex.
Cap bj or BBBJ is of cos good, but if I see the gal mouth got ulcer.. I avoid n may stop all action even. Seriously, u haf to see clearly on the lips n around the mouth area. Inside.. i cant say.. it would be weird to ask the gal to open mouth n say “ah”.. but if u dare, n explain u r very cautious.. perhaps the gal may comply.
But like i stress, u pay means u can request, if they reject n u feel unresonable, u can demand for the basics.. it is afterall a TRANSACTION. Money for sex. If the gal only allow to bj (cap or bbbj), insert, pump, finish n go. Then SGD 60 is wat I will pay. BJ *SGD20, fcuk *SGD 40, This is my opinion.
Think of it this way, if rm included, pay mre SGD 20/30. I breakdown like dis la.. bathe wif client I dun wan put price cos its like inspection time n added value for me.. but if must put price then SGD 10.. why this price? Heck I can bathe myself ma.. she can bathe own n save cost.. but the benefit of the bathe for custy is to really clean the custy up for further action.. and also to “warm-up” for the action ahead.. imagine on the bed n custy didi is soft like jelly.. how to do deed? It is even mre harder to get a quick session if the custy didi is like limp.
The mre things done in the session, the mre likely the custy will feel money spent is worth it. Of cos some will feel younger WL n FL can charge mre. But wat if they act like dead fish on the bed? Pay SGD120-150 for a dead fish? Remember bros n cheongsters, during the session, it is we MEN who do practially ALL the work… work as in pumping. In fact, we expend mre energy then the FLs n WLs during pumping in sex. So if they dun do enuf in foreplay, like fondling n bj and wat.. it will be over in record time.
So, I feel it is not wrong to expect the basic stuff. And when feel short-changed, should speak up n also inform. Whether via publicly (mass spread via FR) or silent (pm frens, buddies n bros here).
Ur chioce if u wan to let the gals ‘control’ u or the session, or both. I wan to control both.. to achieve wat I feel I should get for the money I am paying.
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sickduck
encountered in fldome3 (old one) this okt local one.
Gave her girl super high rating, and pic looks good so ok i booked.
waited outside hotel for 40 minutes, keep telling me reaching.
reach already, saw her and suuuuper turned off. description dont match at all and body dont match pic at all. Plus the fact that so late, i was quite pissed off so i told her give her $30 and wanted to leave.
She called okt and the okt start screwing me over the phone. Screwed her back and went off.
After accepting so many lousy FLs because dont wanna waste the effort of going down, i have learnt to reject and control. Coz more likely than not, accepting the lousy FL likely will turn out to be a bad session in the end. The feeling that i would have been better off watching porn.
woah.. u waited 40mins???
I would haf left by 15-20mins.. dun like to waste time.
in my experience, later den 20mins is a first sign of possible lousy session.
n nowadays, if pic dun show face.. i dun bother.
sori to okts if I sound dao.. but I only recently visited Msian Okt cos the website pics showed FLs’ faces.
I dun like to be cheated or see real person n start to wonder y so diff from pic.
enuf said. no face, i no upz.
One of my cheong buddies from the recent past (I dun cheong so much now.. haiz.. long story not to be dragged here..yet) asked me one funny question.
he went “bro, if i suspect a PRC FL being underage.. how i check ah?”
I told him, “u think they will show u their passport or ID?”
He replied, “dun think so.. how ah?”
I then said, “i duno leh, cos if i not wrong.. underage shud travel wif parents rite? u got for students here ah?”
he kept quiet.
then I asked, “bro, u better be careful, after the recent case of ppl who kena by the underage sg escort, u can see that u can’t win against the courts here de. i feel that if they wan to get u, u most likely cant run if reali underage.”
he said, “walau.. lidat jialat la. I met her in Gu Chia Zui somemore.. dam sweet.. but body like over 18 leh. now i scared she REALI is underage”
I asked him, “she pop question or u pop? n hor.. u farker.. after doing den u get scared.. gud ah?”
he like paiseh, “wa piang.. at the moment how to think wif brain de? she pop first de la. say she nid extra cash to buy stuff cos living costs here too high, and dun dare trouble folks back home.”
I told him, “if she pop, and u did ask her for her age.. and she DID lie.. u will nvr prove it olso de. she can say.. if she wan to get u like ransom u for mre money, that u rape her or force her or bluff her.. no end de la.. but hor.. if she smart.. she wun n continue to see u.. u walking atm for her now wor.”
he said, “..wa.. u gud sia.. she was like asking me out after that time.. datz y i like worried.. but she said even if she underage, she wun tell on me.. say her frens in school will tell her folks back home.”
i said, “there u go. her frens must be PRC olso la.. maybe in same “line” olso. if not then sure big mouth olso one. y she risk go poilce n maybe expose she got other men, rite?”
he said,"…. chee bai.. i din think she got other guys man!"
I said, “u fcuk until ur brains wash out ur kar chng liao la! dun be blur ok. anyways, if she or anybody wan to lie to u.. very hard for u to noe olso la.. u see how de OKT of the underage escort say in court that he TAUGHT the gal to lie.. and the gal olso bring her elder sis NRIC? U will nvr noe if they bluff u de. Just like when u eat cooked food.. u wun realli fresh or not until u kena food poisoning.”
he said, “ya hor.. haiz.. nvm la.. got come may not be bad.. bad come olso cant avoid.”
i replied, “ur direct translation like surpass me liao.. i dry kneel down wind to u.”
we both laffed n ended our chat on phone.
my take is, end of the day.. PRC on social passes usually over 25 one.. or even older. and if student here.. well.. y risk getting in trouble n maybe even expell n sent back home by rappin on the men who r their custys?
my take ah.. may not be truth for all
I have a recent episode with a gal that has made me very disappointed.
In my years of cheoning.. tho I not super rich.. I can hold my own.. and have some cash for my fun.
Now, this means spending my money wisely.. not by using my little head.. but the brain in my big head.. err.. the head on top of my shoulders.
First things first, I dun reali drink.. so ktvs n clubs I seldom go. I dun smoke, cos i hate the smell and I end up coughing until bladder juice comes up in a smoke-filled room. Since my ye-ye (grandfather) died of lung cancer.. I have done my fair bit of read-up and found that second-hand smoke kills n damaged mre.. shyt.. so I stay away from ppl who smoke too.. not unless they dun smoke in front of me.. which alot of my frens n some cheong buddies do.. they realize I dun like it and respect my request to not smoke in front of me.. but can go elsewhere to light-up.
Ok.. that being said.. cheonging places or targets narrows down to WLs of red light districts and also FLs of all varieties.
I like WLs and FLs for one reason, and one reason only. It’s simple (usually) and direct. Meaning you go arrange, meet them and go room to fcuk away. I dun nid too much chat-up.. cos I m impatient. If the sex is gud, I RTF. If no gud, I forget n delete ctc number.
For the RTF, if they reali so gud, I will RTF mre than once. Some ppl haf advised against this as they say feeling will develop. I say, u fcuk first time dun mean no feelings. One time only, u might like the gal.. n datz y u rtf.
Now.. some WLs n FLs think that once u regular, they got u hooked.. then they start showing their true colours on occasions and dun gif u face or flare up their tempers at u. These are the amateurs, for the KC experts r those who will nvr show this to regulars. In fact, they will only show this to those custys who they dun wan to RTF them.
Now, ktv, nite clubs gals command better earnings then WLs in GL in general. Not because they provide better svc, but the nature of their work. They haf to Drink, Dance, Sing, play games, let custy fondle.. hug, sometimes strip, kiss and maybe mre in the room. And most custys there r bizmen or earning higher salary who wan to haf fun.. maybe not direct fcuk fun.. but wan the gals to pander to their every needs. Tips can range to SGD50 n up for one sitting (sitting usually means u sit one room n move around and when custys wan to pack up n go, they tip u before they leave).
So y do club gals n ktv gals generally get mre? It’s cos the gals market n sell themselves well. If you sleep wif all ur clients as a club gal or ktv gal.. ur market value will decrease. If u put urself as hard to get.. but gif in at the right price.. then it depends on
lack on of the above (in my opinion la) and getting custys to wan to take u out n spend money to bed u will be hard as competition is fierce.
Now, there is one type of people who may not be suitable for ktv or clubs.
The gals who are hot-blooded, hot-tempered and easily sensitive and fast mouth will find it hard to earn a living in clubs n ktvs.. as they may find it hard to control their emotions and lash out at custys.
Well, some ppl may like this.. but in a group.. nobody will like to be shown to be like no face in front of colleagues, biz partners, or friends. Showing a black face will guarantee you lesser tips or even no tips at all.
N worse is, if custys complain to mummies that ONE black face affected their happiness factor.. mummies will not hessitate to blacklist that gal.. or tell that gal off.
This is perhaps the reason why some gals do FLs, and some go for clubs n ktvs. In clubs n ktvs, u olso run the risk of being forced to take drugs.. (yes I have heard of this).. from the custys.. or even from the mummies.. so as to keep the gals’s mood high and energy level at peak performance.
Now, if drinking almost every nite is not something for a gal, then being a GL WL or doing FL is a better option if they wan fast money.
hmm.. i haf run too long.. post in another day