From what i observe from most sg women they demand alot from the bf but contribute less in the relationship. A good relationship need both parties to contribute. caucasians tend to give in to them alot that y i think sg women prefer them .
just my humble opinion
well said! respect others and others will respect you. cheers!
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machinehead1234
To be honest halcyon, as a partial angmoh myself, i am rather turned off when the local women starts to lambast local men as “useless, weak, hopeless…etc”. It speaks a lot about their characters. I can assure you that many well travelled, articulate and intelligent angmohs in my age group (30-35PMEBs) are not taken in by a person who has little respect for others regardless what nationality he/she is. It is a definite turn off.
And although you would see that many of these local women here are caught up with all things white, you dont notice that many young angmoh professionals with them. More often than not, it is the fat, balding, obnoxious white dude that swaggers around (pot belly and all) with a nubile young thing. While i conceed that many local women are hot, but it is really down to Chemistry…and it is indeed worrying that many local women are not exactly charming but thats another point altogether.
I am positive that the commentary by these angmoh forummers, as attached here in the thread, are definitely the shallow and naive ones that are still not able to reconcile the fact that they have women swarming them all of a sudden in Asia.
ang mo guys are generally more confident, outspoken, humourous and witty which make them more fun and interesting to be with. of cos big dicks are also added advantage.
ang_mo_joe
4 posts since Mar ‘08
Dear SPGs (sarong party girls):
I have a bizarre story to tell you: the opposite of the SPG phenomenon exists on the other side of the world. I also have some good advice for those of you who want to marry an Ang Mo, toward the end of my column here.
As a former multiyear Singapore resident (son of an expat), I was too young at the time to perceive the existence of the SPG phenomenon. But now, as an adult soon to return to Singapore, I have been studying the country intensely, and came across this SPG thing in the literature. I almost fell out of my chair laughing, because it’s exactly the reverse here in Silicon Valley (near San Francisco).
Now, why do you suppose we could have huge numbers of Caucasian men interested in the small supply of Asian women, but the latter usually end up marrying other Asians? It’s not that the Asian women don’t appreciate the Caucasians’ interest. It’s that the men, as truly desparate as they are, generally refuse to marry the Asian women! The reason is that these women have grown very aware of their coveted status over the past couple decades, and have become, as a rule, snotty at best and outright rude at worst. They usually ignore the polite, well-dressed men who greet them warmly (to say nothing of the drunken fools who dare approach). The snottier ones will often sneer at the man, as though he was scraped off her shoe. If these women do actually respond, they may spend an ethusiastic hour socializing with him, only to give him a fake phone number at the end of the night rather than to politely decline his invitation for a date. Those few times that a date does occur, it generally leads to nowhere because the man quickly discovers that she wants to live a millionaire lifestyle, but is not willing to contribute much to the bank account even though she also makes a large salary. Marriages do happen, but they seem to be of only 2 types: (1) a wealthy engineer and a fresh-off-the-boat (FOB) Asian, whose personality has not yet been corrupted by the snotty Asian American female majority around here and (2) the engineer and his highly educated but unattractive Asian wife, who married because neither thought that they could do any better.
So I just find it amusing that the Caucasian engineers around here are in some sense like SPGs: just as SPGs dress up, flirt forcefully, and maybe even put on accents, in order to attract the Ang Mos, the engineers around here (other than those who are stuck at their keyboards 24/7) dress up, buy luxury cars, and keep themselves fit, in order to go out to fancy bars and try their luck at approaching the Asian women. If a guy can land one such hot date per year, he’s easily in the top 10%. He’ll need to withstand disgusted sneers, fake phone numbers, unreturned phone calls, and plenty of women who promise to show up for a restaurant date, but never do. In some sense, his second best outcome is to be politely but rapidly rejected, because then he can move on without wasting too much time. It’s normal to expect to go have to introduce oneself to 100 women in order to get a good date, or maybe 1K to find a girlfriend.
You really don’t understand what it’s like unless you live here: at midnight on a weekend, it’s perfectly normal to have twice as many men in the bar than women. Higher ratios are not at all unusual.
The obvious solution, of course, is to increase the number of female laborers imported into the country. But the US immigration laws are airtight, so there’s no hope for the male engineers except to leave the area.
By the way, as hard as the Asian women are to date, the Caucasian women do not invoke much interest from the Caucasian men. There are a number of reasons for this: (1) like the Asians, they seem to want equal rights (no problem there) without equal responsibilties (big problem), (2) they generally graze on American processed food that’s rich in sugar and starch, which makes them big mammas by the time they hit 24, (3) they tend to act less feminine, because they think it turns them into sex objects. As to point (3), they completely fail to see that men can appreicate both their bodies and their brains at the same time, so they just seem to give up on their bodies in order to emphasize their intelligence. The men then lose interest and look to the Asians, who are generally very attentive to both their bodies and their brains.
On the other hand, I have observed a pleasing trend in recent years, in which the Caucasian women are increasingly dating Asian men. The Indians seem to be the most popular (perhaps on account of their generally pleasant personalities and good ethics), followed by Chinese. (It keeps society in balance, so we Caucasian males should encourage this trend by hooking up our Asian pals with our Caucasian female friends.)
So how about SPGs? Do they usually want to get married and have families (big red flag for most Ang Mos), or are they willing to date men who are dating other SPGs at the same time (which will tend to result in sustained interest from the Ang Mo). (You need to understand: your typical Ang Mo – the Americans, for starters – have grown up in a society where half of marriages fail in about 5 years, leaving him to make huge monthly payments to a former wife for the rest of his life – who might hate him at this point, not necessarily with much justification – while seldom seeing the children he loves. So marriage is very scary for him, without extremely good reason. Worse, he realizes that Asians have giant extended families that apply all manner of intense social and financial pressure that he is probably not interested in bearing.) While most Ang Mos are not looking for a different woman every night, they will tend to be most interested in women who are willing to date them on an as-requested basis, alternating with a small group of other candidates. They should be willing to accept the same arrangement from you. If they aren’t, dump them because they probably won’t treat you fairly otherwise.
continued by AngMoh Joe
Now, if you’re an SPG looking for a lasting marriage in financially stable circumstances, you should consider dating a local Singaporean. I’m not saying that Ang Mos never marry SPGs; this is false. But the problem is that the typical Ang Mo expat lifestyle is unsustainable: most expat assignments last a few years at best, after which he will be sent back home to live a most modest lifestyle. Or, he’ll realize that he needs to save much more for retirement (a common problem with middle-aged people in the West), so he’ll eventually have to cut out the excess spending. On the other hand, the local guy who takes you to a nice restaurant, but presents a coupon in order to lower the cost of the meal, is probably a more financially stable partner in the longterm. Of course, if you’re just looking for fun while you’re young, then go for the fun guys willing to spend enough to create some excitement, and enjoy. And by all means, date across cultural lines! Just don’t forget that the older you get, the harder it will be for you to marry. That said, you are probably better off learning how to invest in stocks or start your own business, rather than to depend on the men of the world. That way, you can use your youthful freedom without worrying that you will go broke down the road.
But if you absolutely, positively insist on marrying an Ang Mo, then you must learn to date several (up to 10) of them at the same time (and make it clear up front that you are doing so), then wait many months if not a few years for one of them to propose to you. (Don’t waste time proposing to him.) If an Ang Mo can’t accept your popularity, dump him. And of course, you don’t need to act like a stupid bimbo. You also don’t need to be submissive (not that it’s a bad trait in a woman – just unnecessary). Just don’t be obnoxious. Let him take the lead in all matters romantic. If you pay a few bills from time to time, that will leave a very good impression. (If he doesn’t let you, don’t push the matter.) Find out what he thinks is sexy about your appearance, and consistently dress in that way (but with different outfits so as to keep things interesting). Talk to your doctor about good nutrition and proper exercise, and do both faithfully every single day. Whatever you do, don’t play “hard to get”. In other words, don’t pretend that you’re busy when you’re not. If you do that, you’re likely to get many more interested men, but they will tend to be losers who are desparate to chase you. You are much better off making yourself available to the men who interest you, so long as you are free from other duties. If your availability makes him lose interest quickly, then you don’t want to marry him anyway.
A bit more on clothing: do not under any circumstances waste your money (or his) on designer clothing. Men could not care less whether you’re wearing Chanel or WalMart, as long as you look good. Definitely, dress attractively, but do not pay more for a name. (You’ll just look like a high-maintenance fool.) That money belongs in your investment account, making you rich. If a man gives you “name brand” clothes, make it clear that you appreciate the gift (and he need not return it to the store), but you would be just as happy with a high-quality “noname brand”. He will likely be impressed with your practicality, and will have more money to spend on you otherwise.
Bottom line, be courteous and honest with Ang Mos. While you might come across as direct, Western men generally appreciate a woman who makes her interest (or lack thereof) clear, and her desires straightforward. If he can’t deal with a polite “no, thank you”, move on.
And do not be ashamed of your Singlish or nonWestern accent! Ang Mos who like SPGs did not travel half way around the world to meet a woman who sounds their neighbor back in Texas. While fluent command of the English language is always helpful, many of us Ang Mos find your unusal accents and expressions quite alluring! Same goes for your skin color: most of us just don’t care either way, so save money and ditch the skin whitener, already. (In Silicon Valley, incidentally, the blacks are the alpha males. I’m happy to see them dating the Caucasian females in the area, since it prevents the latter from bitching about how the “Asian women have taken our men”.) Buy a gym membership, or more organic veggies, instead!
So SPGs, please take stock of what you are willing to contribute to, and what you desire from, you relationships. Then pursue the men who interest you most – with neither embarrassment nor hesitation. These intercultural pursuits are healthy for society!
Finally, to the Ang Mos out there like myself, I would urge you to always be straightforward but gracious with the SPGs. Never allow your popularity to breed arrogance, for you never know when you might get transferred to Silicon
Valley!
Sincerely,
Ang Mo Joe
Ang Mos got this mind set that when they visit any of the Asian countries, they are the elites. They are of superior race, have the right look down on the locals and they can do what they want.
Just the other day, I saw a bunch of white teenagers making a hell lot of noise on the MRT. They are using the over hang pole to do some stunts and when one of them are doing stunts, the others were clapping n cheering.
Their actions cause the other commuters to steer clear of that cabin.
I wonder what would happened if an elderly or pregnant lady step inside that cabin and got knocked over by their stupid stunts……………Elites huh?
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sammyboyfor
The truth hurts doesn’t it.
You just can’t take the fact that Asian girls prefer Ang Moh men.
lol lol good one boss.
oh well we can t win them all.after they r dump by the ang mos they look 4 local guys.
Well my fellow asian brothers and sisters here, be proud of your asian heritage. Most of us asians are bilingual or even trilingual and we have rich cultures and traditions which alot of Ang Mos do not have anymore. Even some Ang Mos think they are better than other Ang Mos, (American/European, French/Germans). Each individual counts, just treat no other different than our other fellow singaporeans, no special treatments, DO NOT TRY TO SLANG! They are in Asia n they have to adapt to our ways, not the other way round. Its a fact that they look unique compared to the rest of us but as i said before, treat them the same. When everyone behaves and treats them that way, they too will have to adapt to us.
They only thing i hate about this issue is those LOCAL girls who hook up or get married to them. Nothing wrong with those people getting married to Ang Mos but then these asian girls think they are better than the rest of us just because they have ANG MO partners. I know this coz i werk in retail which happens to cater to alot of ang mos. We retail service staff always gets the ugly side of people. Ang Mos are like double edged customers, they can be VERY NICE but also can be FUCKING NASTY….