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A singer in a HFJ makes money by going on stage to sing & customers hang flower. Before & after singing, she goes around tables to do her PR thingy to try to gain more flowers when she sings
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A singer locks on a target to ensure she has continuous support from her customer/customers by having lunch, dinner, supper & sleeping with the customer/customers.
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If she creates a void by not keeping her customer/customers entertained before and after working hours, how is she going to survive? She may still get some loose flowers but those can’t really help her achieve her main reason for being here. $$$$$$$$$
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A singer in a HFJ makes money by going on stage to sing & customers hang flower. Before & after singing, she goes around tables to do her PR thingy to try to gain more flowers when she sings
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A singer locks on a target to ensure she has continuous support from her customer/customers by having lunch, dinner, supper & sleeping with the customer/customers.
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If she creates a void by not keeping her customer/customers entertained before and after working hours, how is she going to survive? She may still get some loose flowers but those can’t really help her achieve her main reason for being here. $$$$$$$$$
Quote:
Originally Posted by
HCKing
learnt alot from this thread. bump for the night.
Thanks bro, hope that you will share ur exploits here…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
deathnitez
Yup True, but actually just like to ask the bros here. If a girl or a few girls keeps messaging you she miss you or waiting for you. What do they mean??……………………………
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NotMyRealName
Need more info, is the message generic, i.e. did not address the name you gave her, or specific to you? You know, to clarify whether it’s a mass sending to all guys on her address book. haha.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
deathnitez
Seems generic and not mass send cause she kept sending like hi or hey my name……………………..
Quote:
Originally Posted by
saabking
Aiyo..if WL likely to be KC traps lar..If really miss you will be dying to come out and meet you and just stare at you and smile her silly smile.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
deathnitez
Yeah, highly possible. But the one which spend the night with me is working overseas. Yup enjoying the company at least not so bored just working.
Bros, impossible to give an answer or come to any conclusion cuz the context is unclear.
You see, everything depends on the girl n ur RS w/ her.
Maybe she is trying to cheat u of ur money and/or feelings or simply playing w/ u or maybe she is emotionally n sexually addicted to u.
If you’re confident that u hv given her intense PVO no man has given her, the answer is very clear haha. She craves you desperately…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
miniboy
hi Warbird,
what are HH and SH ?
Bro,
HH = Happy Hour, SH = Standard Hour
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
………………..
The current no. 1 top Korean race queen/model Heo Yun Mi (go google her) is here in Singapore, along with many of her peers from Korea
Was told about it by my Korean gal who works at the Korean/Thai joint and so I went to take a look. She pointed Yun Mi to me and true enough, she was the most stunning gal there……………..
Yun Mi came to our table. She is 172cm tall and has very slender arms and legs – the type Bro Warbird loves. She has nice round C to D boobs but I’m not sure if they were real or fake until I get to lay my hands on it. She looks slimmer than in her photos. She refused taking photos with me, citing inappropriate venue, and I couldn’t get her contact number…………………
The Korean gal who sat with me throughout the night joked that I’m a playboy. LOL! But she stayed with me the whole night and even rejected customer buying her time for $720…
There… an uneventful night… but the experience of being able to have sparred with the very top model from Korea (according to my Korean gal who is also a model back in S. Korea) was worth the night… I’m already smitten…
Hi bro FA,
Don’t understand why a top Korean model would come to work in a joint in SG.
Next time go there yourself n book her. Then ask for ST asap…if she says no, pass her ctc to me n I’ll meet her n make an offer. I know u don’t BY.
Yes, Ms Heo appears to be my type. I always ask the girl, before STing or BYing, if the boobs r augmented or natural and if she has had any major surgical operations/childbirth haha. Then the next question is: How hard will she come for me.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
tcrecruit
Wow, top Korean gal… Must b v chio… Have been trying to have fun in a Korean joint, but not really knowing the contacts.. Sad… Good for u bro..
We hope that bro FA will ST her n give his juicy FR here haha.
………………………………………….. ……….
Good afternoon!
Yesterday bro KB sent me a photo showing 3 singers from DC n one of them is LL. He asked me to pick LL from the photo as I had never seen her.
In my previous posts, I hv mentioned that this famous LL, a young MILF born in 1986, who is around 164-165 in height, is being BYed by a rich patron purportedly at a princely sum of 100K SGD a month, not including gifts n living expenses. She also continues to work n collects flower fees from other admirers (aka suckers) to the tune of thousands n often tens of thousands daily.
I picked the prettiest gal in the photo, thinking that it must be the fabled LL. I was dead wrong! LL is so so looking in the photo as her chin is a bit longish…maybe she is not photogenic?
Bro KB has seen her several times n he posed a question to me: Could we imagine how unattractive n uncouth she would look sans makeup n squatting down by the roadside? He saw her in that vulgar n compromised position one day…
In recent days I hv sent KB pics of a number of very pretty SYTs of my type in China. Most of them r uni students. Some of them would do ST for 1500-2000 RMB or 300-400 SGD. A few want BY only. I’m trying to get a couple of them to come to SG to spend a month or two w/ me. Their damage for the whole month? About 50K RMB or 10K SGD. Bro KB agrees that these girls r much prettier than LL. 10K a month for a very pretty SYT? It’s less than what LL, an unknown MILF who often sings out of tune, makes in a good day.
This is an example of extreme market inefficiency.
I’m a relentless n deep value investor hahaha. I leave no stone unturned…
I suggested to bro KB that LL must hv mass hypnotized or “mass KC-ed” all her patrons hahaha.
Talking abt SGD 300 for ST. I hv two gals whom I STed in the past who had married young rich men…one in SG n the other in Malaysia. That would be another story.
Cheers!
Bro WB.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
HCKing
learnt alot from this thread. bump for the night.
Thanks bro, hope that you will share ur exploits here…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
deathnitez
Yup True, but actually just like to ask the bros here. If a girl or a few girls keeps messaging you she miss you or waiting for you. What do they mean??……………………………
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NotMyRealName
Need more info, is the message generic, i.e. did not address the name you gave her, or specific to you? You know, to clarify whether it’s a mass sending to all guys on her address book. haha.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
deathnitez
Seems generic and not mass send cause she kept sending like hi or hey my name……………………..
Quote:
Originally Posted by
saabking
Aiyo..if WL likely to be KC traps lar..If really miss you will be dying to come out and meet you and just stare at you and smile her silly smile.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
deathnitez
Yeah, highly possible. But the one which spend the night with me is working overseas. Yup enjoying the company at least not so bored just working.
Bros, impossible to give an answer or come to any conclusion cuz the context is unclear.
You see, everything depends on the girl n ur RS w/ her.
Maybe she is trying to cheat u of ur money and/or feelings or simply playing w/ u or maybe she is emotionally n sexually addicted to u.
If you’re confident that u hv given her intense PVO no man has given her, the answer is very clear haha. She craves you desperately…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
miniboy
hi Warbird,
what are HH and SH ?
Bro,
HH = Happy Hour, SH = Standard Hour
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
………………..
The current no. 1 top Korean race queen/model Heo Yun Mi (go google her) is here in Singapore, along with many of her peers from Korea
Was told about it by my Korean gal who works at the Korean/Thai joint and so I went to take a look. She pointed Yun Mi to me and true enough, she was the most stunning gal there……………..
Yun Mi came to our table. She is 172cm tall and has very slender arms and legs – the type Bro Warbird loves. She has nice round C to D boobs but I’m not sure if they were real or fake until I get to lay my hands on it. She looks slimmer than in her photos. She refused taking photos with me, citing inappropriate venue, and I couldn’t get her contact number…………………
The Korean gal who sat with me throughout the night joked that I’m a playboy. LOL! But she stayed with me the whole night and even rejected customer buying her time for $720…
There… an uneventful night… but the experience of being able to have sparred with the very top model from Korea (according to my Korean gal who is also a model back in S. Korea) was worth the night… I’m already smitten…
Hi bro FA,
Don’t understand why a top Korean model would come to work in a joint in SG.
Next time go there yourself n book her. Then ask for ST asap…if she says no, pass her ctc to me n I’ll meet her n make an offer. I know u don’t BY.
Yes, Ms Heo appears to be my type. I always ask the girl, before STing or BYing, if the boobs r augmented or natural and if she has had any major surgical operations/childbirth haha. Then the next question is: How hard will she come for me.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
tcrecruit
Wow, top Korean gal… Must b v chio… Have been trying to have fun in a Korean joint, but not really knowing the contacts.. Sad… Good for u bro..
We hope that bro FA will ST her n give his juicy FR here haha.
………………………………………….. ……….
Good afternoon!
Yesterday bro KB sent me a photo showing 3 singers from DC n one of them is LL. He asked me to pick LL from the photo as I had never seen her.
In my previous posts, I hv mentioned that this famous LL, a young MILF born in 1986, who is around 164-165 in height, is being BYed by a rich patron purportedly at a princely sum of 100K SGD a month, not including gifts n living expenses. She also continues to work n collects flower fees from other admirers (aka suckers) to the tune of thousands n often tens of thousands daily.
I picked the prettiest gal in the photo, thinking that it must be the fabled LL. I was dead wrong! LL is so so looking in the photo as her chin is a bit longish…maybe she is not photogenic?
Bro KB has seen her several times n he posed a question to me: Could we imagine how unattractive n uncouth she would look sans makeup n squatting down by the roadside? He saw her in that vulgar n compromised position one day…
In recent days I hv sent KB pics of a number of very pretty SYTs of my type in China. Most of them r uni students. Some of them would do ST for 1500-2000 RMB or 300-400 SGD. A few want BY only. I’m trying to get a couple of them to come to SG to spend a month or two w/ me. Their damage for the whole month? About 50K RMB or 10K SGD. Bro KB agrees that these girls r much prettier than LL. 10K a month for a very pretty SYT? It’s less than what LL, an unknown MILF who often sings out of tune, makes in a good day.
This is an example of extreme market inefficiency.
I’m a relentless n deep value investor hahaha. I leave no stone unturned…
I suggested to bro KB that LL must hv mass hypnotized or “mass KC-ed” all her patrons hahaha.
Talking abt SGD 300 for ST. I hv two gals whom I STed in the past who had married young rich men…one in SG n the other in Malaysia. That would be another story.
Cheers!
Bro WB.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Bro tcrecruit and WB大哥,
The top Korean race queens/models are here for a special event. Yun Mi and the other models are here for 2 weeks only. Then other models will be here for the next 2 weeks…………………..
Yun Mi doesn’t stay at my table long cos she’s got lots of tables to go to cos she has lots of flowers. Anyways, lets see how it goes…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
newbieboy
Bro which joint is this…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Embassy, Odeon Towers…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
newbieboy
Oh Embassy! Heard good things about it!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Well, I don’t know if the economy is that bad now but many HFJs and KTVs are having poor business now… maybe also partly due to the 7th month…………..
I guess its a good time to pick up some gals for ST/BY since business is poor now… honed your skills brudders!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
newbieboy
Need to work to a level where skills become recession proof…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
smellyccb
heard good stuffs abt embassy & muse with korean taiwan n sg chicks… Will b going down soon & hopefully able to hv a happy ending with any of e hot chicks there
Quote:
Originally Posted by
jdi813
Just went down last nite quite packed … models we could ID off hand were …………………………….
Anyone can ID the rest of them?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
By end of the week or next week, they will be replaced with another team of top race queens…
Hi bros,
Tks for posting…I’m tickled pink to see so many busy, successful n esteemed bros here.
I would be even more grateful if you guys could share ur pickup n St-ing and/or BY-ing experiences/strategies in general, but of course w/ these sexy Korean babes in particular…
I hv personally discussed at length w/ some of u on the vital subjects of foreplay, penetrative vaginal orgasms, sexual and emotional addiction, the role of men as providers n protectors and ’true love’ hahaha…I hv learnt a lot.
The collective experiences n wisdom of these bros (and several others) are incredibly deep and vast n I’ll try to persuade them to share some of their secrets.
Thanks again,
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Bro tcrecruit and WB大哥,
The top Korean race queens/models are here for a special event. Yun Mi and the other models are here for 2 weeks only. Then other models will be here for the next 2 weeks…………………..
Yun Mi doesn’t stay at my table long cos she’s got lots of tables to go to cos she has lots of flowers. Anyways, lets see how it goes…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
newbieboy
Bro which joint is this…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Embassy, Odeon Towers…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
newbieboy
Oh Embassy! Heard good things about it!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Well, I don’t know if the economy is that bad now but many HFJs and KTVs are having poor business now… maybe also partly due to the 7th month…………..
I guess its a good time to pick up some gals for ST/BY since business is poor now… honed your skills brudders!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
newbieboy
Need to work to a level where skills become recession proof…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
smellyccb
heard good stuffs abt embassy & muse with korean taiwan n sg chicks… Will b going down soon & hopefully able to hv a happy ending with any of e hot chicks there
Quote:
Originally Posted by
jdi813
Just went down last nite quite packed … models we could ID off hand were …………………………….
Anyone can ID the rest of them?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
By end of the week or next week, they will be replaced with another team of top race queens…
Hi bros,
Tks for posting…I’m tickled pink to see so many busy, successful n esteemed bros here.
I would be even more grateful if you guys could share ur pickup n St-ing and/or BY-ing experiences/strategies in general, but of course w/ these sexy Korean babes in particular…
I hv personally discussed at length w/ some of u on the vital subjects of foreplay, penetrative vaginal orgasms, sexual and emotional addiction, the role of men as providers n protectors and ’true love’ hahaha…I hv learnt a lot.
The collective experiences n wisdom of these bros (and several others) are incredibly deep and vast n I’ll try to persuade them to share some of their secrets.
Thanks again,
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Bro, I understand the importance of penetrative vaginal orgasms, sexual and emotional addiction………..not that I don’t practise or strive for it, but most times, its ST or GL for me, and you just want to relax and be pleasured, not giving the other party the orgasm of her lifetime……………….. I also use to be able to make my gal cum just by oral+finger stimulation but she has grown immune to my attacks… she now only cum during penetrative sex but because our bodies are in sync (we always cum together)……………..
Oh, and on Monday night, we went to DC and I told the tall singer CZ it was my birthday. She went to buy a cake for me and we had the cake there at DC. Very sweet and kind of her. I was also shown Linda’s photo – one taken by her jie meis just when she came straight out of the showers, naked and without makeups. I must agree with the singers that she has natural beauty and she’s really sweet and she’s the most beautiful singer there.
Dear bro FA,
Yes, when we go for ST w/ either FLs or GL gals, we just want to relax n enjoy…no point giving any gals PVO unless you want a long term RS. BTW, over 95% of these gals fake their orgasms, although there hv been some noteworthy exceptions.
Do you hv Linda’s nude photo? I hv not even seen her in person.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
deathnitez
……………….whenever the girl pvo they seems to go much crazy about me or something messaging me or keep saying missing me. Then my subsequent activities with these WL or GL are free and whatever I want they give, some even travel from overseas to come singapore to visit me hehe……….
Dear bro deathnitz,
Could u clarify what u meant by “subsequent activities with these WL or GL are free and whatever I want they give.” How do u get FOC w/ GL legal gals?
Tks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
miniboy
Thats the power of using 1 finger than a hand
A persistently hard didi is even more powerful haha…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
smellyccb
these koreans r quite hot but looking at them carefully most of them have plastic surgeries so 4 me preferbly i look 4 taiwanese or sporeans… cos chinese still turn me on
You’re right bro, most of these Korean gals hv had multiple plastic surgeries.
For these 风尘女子， plastic surgery is a small initial investments which may yield manyfold returns.
I’ll give u a real life example of a $300 per shot PRC FL who improved her looks moderately w/ plastic surgery n “made good” or rather “hit pay dirt” by marrying a very rich young man in SG in 2010. She was 18, a singer in a small joint, when I BY-ed her briefly in 2009; later she offered to reduce her monthly allowance but I said no. I then upped her a number of times for $300 per shot, the last time in 2010, only months before she “struck gold” by marrying the rich young man. She has a daughter now. Despite her plastic surgery n her youth, she is in the lower 20% in terms of physical attractiveness among all my BAO-ees.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
airbrush
Haha for me there were many try and error till I discover that to achieve PVO need to know the girl PMS and between the day 13 to 15 window after the PMS is the good time to intimate and PVO………
Warning! she can be very addicted that in one day she may one at least two to three time intimating………………..
Above is my experience but whether it will work on you I don’t know.
Dear bro airbrush,
Tks for sharing. Most gals can achieve PVO anytime in their menstrual cycle, although many of them r especially horny n orgasmic just before, during n after ovulation.
Ovulation for a human female always occurs 14 days BEFORE her menses, regardless of the length of her cycle. You could use an ovulation thermometer if her cycle length is irregular. She may not be ovulating.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
For my regular gal, yes, and she always get PVOs from me and I know she’s mine forever. She thinks I’m cocky but we both know we are so in sync that its extremely difficult for her to find a replacement. Hahaha.
Wow, how do you get your next sexxion with WLs in GL for free!?!?! Yes, gals get addicted to PVOs but I’m not gonna make WLs addicted to me – I don’t want free services or whatever more I can get from them LOL!
Dear bro FA,
Yes, if ur gal gets regular PVO from u, she will never leave u willingly. But be careful, she could get violent if u dump her…
I first realized that PVO is distinctly different from all other types of orgasms only abt 2 yrs ago n I didn’t fully realize its incredible addictive power until just one yr ago. I’ll elaborate on this topic at a later date.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
LOL. I think every gal’s horny period is different …………….
Preparation beforehand is very important too. A healthy and well-rested body will make sex more enjoyable. Plus, you will perform better.
Sex can become really dull and boring when you are doing it with the same gal, day-in-day-out, in the same place……………
Make love with her even before you make love with her – with all the preparations and anticipation… and make sure: she cums first. I always joke with my gal: I’d rather you get the gold medal and I get the silver medal…
Tks for sharing bro.
Yes, every gal is different.
Actually, mental foreplay begins when a man meets the gal of his type for the very first time n is a continuous process as long as the RS is ongoing hahaha.
The most powerful sex organ in a girl is her mind…
PVO is so addictive because it is holistic n engages a girl’s mind, body n sex organs…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
deathnitez
Yeah thats why the condom…. still even though they are WL or GL I still treat them as normal girls………..Some times they can be very good tour guides for business trips and is free ……….
Dear bro deathnitz,
Yes, we should always treat every human being w/ respect n kindness, w/o expecting anything in return.
But could u clarify the condom n FOC thing?
Tks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Back to the tall singer, CZ, at DC… after she bought me a birthday cake that night… another singer (let’s call her SG, who was with my buddy) sent me weird messages on wechat yesterday and after I sent them to another gal and Bro WB to decipher, confirmed that this singer liked me – despite me only hanging her flowers twice, $100 on each occasion. I showed Bro WB the details of the messages/incident and what prompted her to wechat me. So that made me ponder on what Bro WB have posted in the thread and I list a few points:
You flirt with another gal (SG) with the sole intention to get the attention of your target gal (CZ) – you will always succeed. Even when CZ always act cool and nonchalant, she would surprise me by getting me a cake – on my fourth/fifth visit to DC;
When your target gal shows interest in you, it raises your ‘status’ and the other gal gets jealous – she has unknowingly fallen for you.
Hmm… don’t know whether it made sense…
Dear bro FA,
Well done! You’re now quite a Casanova haha.
Too bad CZ has left SG, otherwise you could’ve fucked her regularly for very little. And if you give her regular PVO, watch out!
Like u, I hv had very little experience w/ singers.
IMHO, there r two approaches to getting singers. The big buck approach, by hanging lots of flowers at least initially, or various modifications of such approach, as practised by most customers, n your MO, the psychological approach, or shall I call the thinking man’s strategic approach hahaha.
I remember you told me u went to DC once n CZ initially snubbed u. She didn’t even look at u. But you were nonchalant, very relaxed n enjoyed urself w/ others. Do u know what CZ was thinking? This guy is a real man, he doesn’t need me, he is unlike all the other customers who would surely be offended…later that nite, she came n became quite affectionate w/ u, right?
No, she has not fallen for u yet, but she is more attracted to u than all her other customers combined who had hung tens of thousands of dollars hahaha. BTW, the other singer is also attracted to u.
Pls keep in touch w/ CZ by Wechat n occasional phone calls. You could go to China n ask her to be ur tour guide for a wk or she could come to visit u in 6 months.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Bro, I understand the importance of penetrative vaginal orgasms, sexual and emotional addiction………..not that I don’t practise or strive for it, but most times, its ST or GL for me, and you just want to relax and be pleasured, not giving the other party the orgasm of her lifetime……………….. I also use to be able to make my gal cum just by oral+finger stimulation but she has grown immune to my attacks… she now only cum during penetrative sex but because our bodies are in sync (we always cum together)……………..
Oh, and on Monday night, we went to DC and I told the tall singer CZ it was my birthday. She went to buy a cake for me and we had the cake there at DC. Very sweet and kind of her. I was also shown Linda’s photo – one taken by her jie meis just when she came straight out of the showers, naked and without makeups. I must agree with the singers that she has natural beauty and she’s really sweet and she’s the most beautiful singer there.
Dear bro FA,
Yes, when we go for ST w/ either FLs or GL gals, we just want to relax n enjoy…no point giving any gals PVO unless you want a long term RS. BTW, over 95% of these gals fake their orgasms, although there hv been some noteworthy exceptions.
Do you hv Linda’s nude photo? I hv not even seen her in person.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
deathnitez
……………….whenever the girl pvo they seems to go much crazy about me or something messaging me or keep saying missing me. Then my subsequent activities with these WL or GL are free and whatever I want they give, some even travel from overseas to come singapore to visit me hehe……….
Dear bro deathnitz,
Could u clarify what u meant by “subsequent activities with these WL or GL are free and whatever I want they give.” How do u get FOC w/ GL legal gals?
Tks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
miniboy
Thats the power of using 1 finger than a hand
A persistently hard didi is even more powerful haha…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
smellyccb
these koreans r quite hot but looking at them carefully most of them have plastic surgeries so 4 me preferbly i look 4 taiwanese or sporeans… cos chinese still turn me on
You’re right bro, most of these Korean gals hv had multiple plastic surgeries.
For these 风尘女子， plastic surgery is a small initial investments which may yield manyfold returns.
I’ll give u a real life example of a $300 per shot PRC FL who improved her looks moderately w/ plastic surgery n “made good” or rather “hit pay dirt” by marrying a very rich young man in SG in 2010. She was 18, a singer in a small joint, when I BY-ed her briefly in 2009; later she offered to reduce her monthly allowance but I said no. I then upped her a number of times for $300 per shot, the last time in 2010, only months before she “struck gold” by marrying the rich young man. She has a daughter now. Despite her plastic surgery n her youth, she is in the lower 20% in terms of physical attractiveness among all my BAO-ees.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
airbrush
Haha for me there were many try and error till I discover that to achieve PVO need to know the girl PMS and between the day 13 to 15 window after the PMS is the good time to intimate and PVO………
Warning! she can be very addicted that in one day she may one at least two to three time intimating………………..
Above is my experience but whether it will work on you I don’t know.
Dear bro airbrush,
Tks for sharing. Most gals can achieve PVO anytime in their menstrual cycle, although many of them r especially horny n orgasmic just before, during n after ovulation.
Ovulation for a human female always occurs 14 days BEFORE her menses, regardless of the length of her cycle. You could use an ovulation thermometer if her cycle length is irregular. She may not be ovulating.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
For my regular gal, yes, and she always get PVOs from me and I know she’s mine forever. She thinks I’m cocky but we both know we are so in sync that its extremely difficult for her to find a replacement. Hahaha.
Wow, how do you get your next sexxion with WLs in GL for free!?!?! Yes, gals get addicted to PVOs but I’m not gonna make WLs addicted to me – I don’t want free services or whatever more I can get from them LOL!
Dear bro FA,
Yes, if ur gal gets regular PVO from u, she will never leave u willingly. But be careful, she could get violent if u dump her…
I first realized that PVO is distinctly different from all other types of orgasms only abt 2 yrs ago n I didn’t fully realize its incredible addictive power until just one yr ago. I’ll elaborate on this topic at a later date.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
LOL. I think every gal’s horny period is different …………….
Preparation beforehand is very important too. A healthy and well-rested body will make sex more enjoyable. Plus, you will perform better.
Sex can become really dull and boring when you are doing it with the same gal, day-in-day-out, in the same place……………
Make love with her even before you make love with her – with all the preparations and anticipation… and make sure: she cums first. I always joke with my gal: I’d rather you get the gold medal and I get the silver medal…
Tks for sharing bro.
Yes, every gal is different.
Actually, mental foreplay begins when a man meets the gal of his type for the very first time n is a continuous process as long as the RS is ongoing hahaha.
The most powerful sex organ in a girl is her mind…
PVO is so addictive because it is holistic n engages a girl’s mind, body n sex organs…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
deathnitez
Yeah thats why the condom…. still even though they are WL or GL I still treat them as normal girls………..Some times they can be very good tour guides for business trips and is free ……….
Dear bro deathnitz,
Yes, we should always treat every human being w/ respect n kindness, w/o expecting anything in return.
But could u clarify the condom n FOC thing?
Tks!
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Back to the tall singer, CZ, at DC… after she bought me a birthday cake that night… another singer (let’s call her SG, who was with my buddy) sent me weird messages on wechat yesterday and after I sent them to another gal and Bro WB to decipher, confirmed that this singer liked me – despite me only hanging her flowers twice, $100 on each occasion. I showed Bro WB the details of the messages/incident and what prompted her to wechat me. So that made me ponder on what Bro WB have posted in the thread and I list a few points:
You flirt with another gal (SG) with the sole intention to get the attention of your target gal (CZ) – you will always succeed. Even when CZ always act cool and nonchalant, she would surprise me by getting me a cake – on my fourth/fifth visit to DC;
When your target gal shows interest in you, it raises your ‘status’ and the other gal gets jealous – she has unknowingly fallen for you.
Hmm… don’t know whether it made sense…
Dear bro FA,
Well done! You’re now quite a Casanova haha.
Too bad CZ has left SG, otherwise you could’ve fucked her regularly for very little. And if you give her regular PVO, watch out!
Like u, I hv had very little experience w/ singers.
IMHO, there r two approaches to getting singers. The big buck approach, by hanging lots of flowers at least initially, or various modifications of such approach, as practised by most customers, n your MO, the psychological approach, or shall I call the thinking man’s strategic approach hahaha.
I remember you told me u went to DC once n CZ initially snubbed u. She didn’t even look at u. But you were nonchalant, very relaxed n enjoyed urself w/ others. Do u know what CZ was thinking? This guy is a real man, he doesn’t need me, he is unlike all the other customers who would surely be offended…later that nite, she came n became quite affectionate w/ u, right?
No, she has not fallen for u yet, but she is more attracted to u than all her other customers combined who had hung tens of thousands of dollars hahaha. BTW, the other singer is also attracted to u.
Pls keep in touch w/ CZ by Wechat n occasional phone calls. You could go to China n ask her to be ur tour guide for a wk or she could come to visit u in 6 months.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
Weremonkey
Lots of wonderful information in this thread, I do have some questions though. This thread is mostly revolved around ktv girls hfj girls etc.. where there is money involved isnt the actual effect of these techniques somewhat skewed? how is it possible to accertain that the results are not directly related to monetary benefit? eg. a whore could say that a guy with a 3 inch dick gave her the best bang ever.
In a world where company is not purchased by money. will the techniques apply. As a person who is far short of the caliber of spending poweress from most of the postees. how would i even begin to get her attention?
Dear bro Weremonkey,
Tks for asking such excellent questions.
The psychological techniques work on every healthy girl/woman, WLs n non-WLs.
If you’re unable to differentiate between real n fake orgasms, you better read up n learn from hands-on experience asap.
Yes, money is necessary to bed these girls. But the damage could be minimized. You could learn from bro FA who has spent very little n yet has got two singers vying for his attention haha.
I started this thread to discuss various methods of “pick up” to cut the friction cost of meeting girls. I hv met many girls, both here n in China, proposed BY n got accepted w/o having spent a penny. For various reasons, I hv consummated the “BY relationship” in less than 1/3 of cases haha.
BTW, I don’t limit myself to KTV or HFJ gals in SG n PRC. Any unmarried gal of my type anywhere on planet earth is fair game. In some countries, my physical safety is my only concern which may deter me…
Money is a sensitive issue n a double-edged sword. Giving too much money can destroy attraction. Perhaps I’m old fashioned n outdated. But, IMHO, a real MAN should be a good provider n a bold protector of his women. Most importantly, he must be able to give them regular PVO n get them sexually n emotionally addicted to him. This IS the prerequiste for “true love,” at least as far as women is concerned. Women r actually very simple n men r more complex hahaha.
There r men out there who believe their wife/GF/mistress/er nai r truly in love w/ them. They need to ask themselves only one question.
Have I given my women regular PVO?
If yes, congrats.
If no, their “true love” for u is suspect n may fade w/ time. You can write it down.
BTW, the role of men really hasn’t changed that much in the last 50,000 yrs. It’s in the genes of both men n women, in our collective subconscious minds. “Emancipation” of women n “gender equality” in advanced countries (including SG) have upset this relationship n have resulted in high divorce rates n misery for all parties. It’s has been a lose-lose-lose situation.
Cheers!
Bro WB
QUOTE=newbieboy;9589090]enlightening as always bro
[/QUOTE]
Dear bro newbieboy.
Actually, you’re the enlightened one! I hv learned so much from a young man like u. Remember our discussion on true love?
Best,
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
Weremonkey
Dear Bro WB
Thanks for the reply. There is no menace in my questions and i hope there is no offence. Im asking in a purely academic point of view. Im truely impressed by transforming a what has been percieved to be an art and breaking it down into a science.
lets assume we are talking about a pure player prespective. No dollar involvement. So not talking about BY etc. My assumption is that it will be next to impossible for a person whose financial output is next to nothing. to have almost a next to nothing chance of getting anywhere.
any advise on overcoming this?
Dear bro Weremonkey,
I really enjoy answering ur questions.
Getting ur dream girl sexually n emotionally addicted to u is most gratifying, especially if she had rejected u repeatedly in the past n u thought somehow she was “out of ur league,” hahaha.
What do u mean by “financial output is next to nothing”? Very, very low income or no income?
To hv long term successful RS w/ women, a man needs to hv confidence, masculinity, ability to make women feel safe n secure, character n emotional control/self mastery. Of course his ability to give them PVO is a prerequisite. If u hv the above MANLY qualities, women will be very attracted to you. And those same attributes will make u financially secure, it’s a matter of time bro. So cultivate those attributes n be patient n persistent.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
hmm… if you don’t give anything, how do you expect to get anything in return? A player who doesn’t pay $? Maybe not at my level. But even if you date a gal or your gf, you need to spend some money ya?
For the past 2 nights, I have been going out with a Korean model who is also a travel and food presenter. Nope, I didn’t picked her up at Embassy. She’s been here before and she is here again on holiday and we have been having dinners, drinks, clubbing and KTV (K-Box) and I’m meeting her again tonight before she flys back………………………………….
What I’m saying is, you have to fun enough so that the gal actually enjoys your company and you, hers. You have to be very confident to be comfortable before you can start to enjoy each others company………………………….
I think the key point (about money) is spend wisely to get the most bang for the buck/mileage for your money spent… and most importantly to enjoy yourself
Dear bro FA,
I couldn’t agree w/ u more.
A man should be a provider n protector of his women.
Enjoy urself bro…
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
Weremonkey
Good point. but i wasnt refering to the expenses involved in taking a girl out that is naturally quite a given that guys do pay. I do specifically mean the flowers such. Is it possible to get the attention of a HFJ girl without hanging flower?
Dear bro Weremonkey,
Possible but quite difficult, and it will take time and effort.
Try to connect w/ her outside n far away from KTV/HFJ.
If she tells u that she is on visitor pass, student visa or WP, it’s great news, play along w/ her…
If she says she is a singer at XYZ HFJ n asks u to see her there, act blur n say you never go such places. Get her ctc no n Wechat.
What u do next depends on how much you like her.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Always remember y these girls r here in the 1st place. Make money.
Understand how they make money too.
Let me help in this area.
Hope this helps
Dear Mr Chairman,
Tks for the info. Of course all singers r here to make as much money as possible. Most of them need to find at least one strong supporter/lao gong/BF/patron to provide for their basic needs including monthly flowers, etc.
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Dear Bro WB
Like you, I’m also a lao chee ko pek! Hahaha
I don’t see the point of hanging flowers actually. I mean, what do you get in return? So I always want to limit my spending.
Yes, CZ ignored me once, or maybe she was busy with another customer, I don’t know, but all I know is that I have to be cool and show her that I’m having a great time without her. And I did. That night, when she finally came over, she asked me to touch her hips and she even grab my hand to touch her hips/waist. If you portrait a needy image, then you are out. LOL
So in a way, its not how much flowers you hang. I guess, deep down inside these singers, they will think those men who hang a lot and get nothing in return are really stupid.
Anyways, yeah, we still keep in touch via wechat.
Dear bro FA,
You’re no lao chee ko pek. You’re a tall, young n handsome man compared w/ me haha. And you’re such a romantic gentleman whereas I’m Mode One, so blunt n direct…it saves time though.
Remember the pretty n sexy MILF we met next to the stage at LV 5th FL on 29 Jan? To make a long story short, she said no to ST, so I BY-ed her. Yes, just like that. I didn’t even book her that night.
Singer CZ was highly attracted to you. You exhibited “don’t give a damn” attitude. You wanted (to fuck) her, but u didn’t need her.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Aiyoh, you go to HFJ and expect to get attention from the singers without hanging flowers? Can… if you look like Lee-Hom Wang, etc…
Like what Bro Do_You_BJ said, they are here for only 1 reason………….
Recently, the Korean model who went out with me 3 nights in a row also hinted that she likes Chanel. But I ignored her lah. All these gals have a purpose lah. If its not cash, its in-kind. But I never give. She’s coming again in next month - let’s see if she will look for me again. LOL
Dear bro FA,
No use even if he looks like 潘安。。。
A Chanel handbag? It’s 5-7K at least. Tell her u will take care of her AFTER she has become ur woman haha.
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Originally Posted by
Weremonkey
Ok i got it. basically the answer is there is no way. BTW im curious. what does going out mean? does it imply a intimate physical relationship as well?
Bro, pls see my previous post. Be Mode One. You need to hv very thick skin n enjoy repeated rejections.
There is one other way. Become her 小狼狗 and she will pay u!
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
I won’t say no way. I’m just not there yet, LOL
Going out means going out like paktor, with her arms around mine.
Is she up-able, yes, from the way she answered certain questions, but I have not taken that step yet and so I do not know the cost involved.
I gather that the Korean model is a non-WL. Never ask for sex. Just make love to her. Buy the bag after she has become ur woman.
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Originally Posted by
saabking
Yup - value for money is the deal. Spend wisely..but more importantly..getting her emotionally attached = be it through PVO or other means would be great. So that when she’s happy she want you to be the first one to share her joy; when she’s sad she want you to be the first one to give her a shoulder to cry on; and when she’s angry she want you to be the first to calm her down and make her laugh…so that she cannot live without you ..because she need to share every single emotion with you..LOL
Dear bro saabking,
You’re talking abt a gal who is emotionally addicted to a man. Hopefully she is also sexually addicted to him.
IMHO, a gal can be emotionally addicted to man w/o being sexually addicted, but if she is sexually addicted, she will also be emotionally addicted hahaha. Such is the power of sexual addiction.
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Originally Posted by
SocialCircle
Not really picking up a ktv gal outside a ktv but actually went to a ktv n got this viet sat wif me. Found out she earned abt $2k sing, n she dun other stuffs unless she likes the person. Sometimes I just jokingly said haven’t tried sex on beach n she volunteer to do it. However the thing is she gets angry when I go other ktv or go out wif other ktv gals. Dun like her dominating figure so just thought of ways to make her tulan me n let go. I just don’t have the guts to let her fall deeper into “she is not my gf but act like wife” relationship. I also scare she will get berserk one day if I leave her.
So wonder how to let gal know this is just “companionship”.
Hi bro SocialCircle,
Pls tell us ur RS w/ the Viet gal. Hv u had sex w/ her? Hv you given her PVO?
Cheers!
Bro WB
QUOTE=newbieboy;9589090]enlightening as always bro
[/QUOTE]
Dear bro newbieboy.
Actually, you’re the enlightened one! I hv learned so much from a young man like u. Remember our discussion on true love?
Best,
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
Weremonkey
Dear Bro WB
Thanks for the reply. There is no menace in my questions and i hope there is no offence. Im asking in a purely academic point of view. Im truely impressed by transforming a what has been percieved to be an art and breaking it down into a science.
lets assume we are talking about a pure player prespective. No dollar involvement. So not talking about BY etc. My assumption is that it will be next to impossible for a person whose financial output is next to nothing. to have almost a next to nothing chance of getting anywhere.
any advise on overcoming this?
Dear bro Weremonkey,
I really enjoy answering ur questions.
Getting ur dream girl sexually n emotionally addicted to u is most gratifying, especially if she had rejected u repeatedly in the past n u thought somehow she was “out of ur league,” hahaha.
What do u mean by “financial output is next to nothing”? Very, very low income or no income?
To hv long term successful RS w/ women, a man needs to hv confidence, masculinity, ability to make women feel safe n secure, character n emotional control/self mastery. Of course his ability to give them PVO is a prerequisite. If u hv the above MANLY qualities, women will be very attracted to you. And those same attributes will make u financially secure, it’s a matter of time bro. So cultivate those attributes n be patient n persistent.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
hmm… if you don’t give anything, how do you expect to get anything in return? A player who doesn’t pay $? Maybe not at my level. But even if you date a gal or your gf, you need to spend some money ya?
For the past 2 nights, I have been going out with a Korean model who is also a travel and food presenter. Nope, I didn’t picked her up at Embassy. She’s been here before and she is here again on holiday and we have been having dinners, drinks, clubbing and KTV (K-Box) and I’m meeting her again tonight before she flys back………………………………….
What I’m saying is, you have to fun enough so that the gal actually enjoys your company and you, hers. You have to be very confident to be comfortable before you can start to enjoy each others company………………………….
I think the key point (about money) is spend wisely to get the most bang for the buck/mileage for your money spent… and most importantly to enjoy yourself
Dear bro FA,
I couldn’t agree w/ u more.
A man should be a provider n protector of his women.
Enjoy urself bro…
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
Weremonkey
Good point. but i wasnt refering to the expenses involved in taking a girl out that is naturally quite a given that guys do pay. I do specifically mean the flowers such. Is it possible to get the attention of a HFJ girl without hanging flower?
Dear bro Weremonkey,
Possible but quite difficult, and it will take time and effort.
Try to connect w/ her outside n far away from KTV/HFJ.
If she tells u that she is on visitor pass, student visa or WP, it’s great news, play along w/ her…
If she says she is a singer at XYZ HFJ n asks u to see her there, act blur n say you never go such places. Get her ctc no n Wechat.
What u do next depends on how much you like her.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Always remember y these girls r here in the 1st place. Make money.
Understand how they make money too.
Let me help in this area.
Hope this helps
Dear Mr Chairman,
Tks for the info. Of course all singers r here to make as much money as possible. Most of them need to find at least one strong supporter/lao gong/BF/patron to provide for their basic needs including monthly flowers, etc.
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Dear Bro WB
Like you, I’m also a lao chee ko pek! Hahaha
I don’t see the point of hanging flowers actually. I mean, what do you get in return? So I always want to limit my spending.
Yes, CZ ignored me once, or maybe she was busy with another customer, I don’t know, but all I know is that I have to be cool and show her that I’m having a great time without her. And I did. That night, when she finally came over, she asked me to touch her hips and she even grab my hand to touch her hips/waist. If you portrait a needy image, then you are out. LOL
So in a way, its not how much flowers you hang. I guess, deep down inside these singers, they will think those men who hang a lot and get nothing in return are really stupid.
Anyways, yeah, we still keep in touch via wechat.
Dear bro FA,
You’re no lao chee ko pek. You’re a tall, young n handsome man compared w/ me haha. And you’re such a romantic gentleman whereas I’m Mode One, so blunt n direct…it saves time though.
Remember the pretty n sexy MILF we met next to the stage at LV 5th FL on 29 Jan? To make a long story short, she said no to ST, so I BY-ed her. Yes, just like that. I didn’t even book her that night.
Singer CZ was highly attracted to you. You exhibited “don’t give a damn” attitude. You wanted (to fuck) her, but u didn’t need her.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Aiyoh, you go to HFJ and expect to get attention from the singers without hanging flowers? Can… if you look like Lee-Hom Wang, etc…
Like what Bro Do_You_BJ said, they are here for only 1 reason………….
Recently, the Korean model who went out with me 3 nights in a row also hinted that she likes Chanel. But I ignored her lah. All these gals have a purpose lah. If its not cash, its in-kind. But I never give. She’s coming again in next month - let’s see if she will look for me again. LOL
Dear bro FA,
No use even if he looks like 潘安。。。
A Chanel handbag? It’s 5-7K at least. Tell her u will take care of her AFTER she has become ur woman haha.
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Originally Posted by
Weremonkey
Ok i got it. basically the answer is there is no way. BTW im curious. what does going out mean? does it imply a intimate physical relationship as well?
Bro, pls see my previous post. Be Mode One. You need to hv very thick skin n enjoy repeated rejections.
There is one other way. Become her 小狼狗 and she will pay u!
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
I won’t say no way. I’m just not there yet, LOL
Going out means going out like paktor, with her arms around mine.
Is she up-able, yes, from the way she answered certain questions, but I have not taken that step yet and so I do not know the cost involved.
I gather that the Korean model is a non-WL. Never ask for sex. Just make love to her. Buy the bag after she has become ur woman.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
saabking
Yup - value for money is the deal. Spend wisely..but more importantly..getting her emotionally attached = be it through PVO or other means would be great. So that when she’s happy she want you to be the first one to share her joy; when she’s sad she want you to be the first one to give her a shoulder to cry on; and when she’s angry she want you to be the first to calm her down and make her laugh…so that she cannot live without you ..because she need to share every single emotion with you..LOL
Dear bro saabking,
You’re talking abt a gal who is emotionally addicted to a man. Hopefully she is also sexually addicted to him.
IMHO, a gal can be emotionally addicted to man w/o being sexually addicted, but if she is sexually addicted, she will also be emotionally addicted hahaha. Such is the power of sexual addiction.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SocialCircle
Not really picking up a ktv gal outside a ktv but actually went to a ktv n got this viet sat wif me. Found out she earned abt $2k sing, n she dun other stuffs unless she likes the person. Sometimes I just jokingly said haven’t tried sex on beach n she volunteer to do it. However the thing is she gets angry when I go other ktv or go out wif other ktv gals. Dun like her dominating figure so just thought of ways to make her tulan me n let go. I just don’t have the guts to let her fall deeper into “she is not my gf but act like wife” relationship. I also scare she will get berserk one day if I leave her.
So wonder how to let gal know this is just “companionship”.
Hi bro SocialCircle,
Pls tell us ur RS w/ the Viet gal. Hv u had sex w/ her? Hv you given her PVO?
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
SocialCircle
Hi bro Warbird,
I didn’t have sex wif her. Just frenching nia. She emphasizes she like me not love. She ask me she beautiful or sexy n I say sexy n she disappointed n tell me she want me to answer she beautiful. Dun know wat psychological test she conducting.
Dear bro SocialCircle,
Just make love to her.
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Originally Posted by
NotMyRealName
bro SocialCircle,
You should also try to play your mind game onto her, keep it fun, dun let it be one way street but also be confident and flirt around like give attention to other gals in the joint, see how she reacts.
Anyway, you’re there to have fun, not to play their game, but get them to play yours.
Dear bro NMRN,
Good advice. Take the initiative. Lead her…
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Originally Posted by
Weremonkey
Hi Guys Really appreicate your replies and feedback.
You’re most welcome!
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Originally Posted by
Weremonkey
Hi Bro WB with regards to your point.
If she says she is a singer at XYZ HFJ n asks u to see her there, act blur n say you never go such places. Get her ctc no n Wechat.
I couldnt agree more. I always try to distance myself from the whole scene. eg. with thai girls i do not speak in thai with them. Its is a big flashing Danger warning sign to them that the guys is a potential player. But it helps that i actually dont know how to speak the language
Dear bro WMK,
You’re doing well.
BTW, I hv seen many tall, beautiful, sexy n fair Thai gals in Bangkok n Changmai, but not in SG.
Likewise, thousands of very pretty SYTs r waiting for us in China. I hv made ctc w/ dozens of them, but very very few r willing to come to SG. They want to be ST-ed or BY-ed over there.
It’s sad that we SG men don’t even hv the chance to taste prime meat or abalone here. It’s sadder that we often fight over scraps…
Best,
Bro WB