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No Work
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Stand by by a place rented by me for activation
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Originally Posted by
chenzong
Sometimes I could not help but wonder if strict religious upbringing plus studying and working hard is a set-up for something like this to happen. Especially when you hit middle-age.
Dear bro chenzong,
It’s an unfortunate setup. I know cuz that was how I grew up.
Now I’m going the other extreme, to catch up on lost time…
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Originally Posted by
woody17
Dear Bro Warbird
A belated CNY greeting to u. May u have another great year of BYing in 2012…
Woody
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Dera bro woody,
Ths so much.
Wishing u a great year in BY-ing too!
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Originally Posted by
woody17
Dear Bro Warbird
I was actually in Taiwan from 22nd -26th Feb, back to HK on 26th evening
Woody
Were u in Taiwan during Feb LAST YEAR? Many uni students there available for ST…
When will u be in SG again?
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
Stimsia
Bro wb
Same criteria <25
Is that a benchmark for ol men..haha
Wow 17 yr ol crave for you, care to share secret of your success
Dear Bro Stimsia,
It’s a very long n complicated story.
Become the MAN CL describes in her post.
The lesson I hv learned from CL is that if u meet a gal u like a lot, the best chance u hv w/ her is to treat her like an ordinary gal, at least initially. For example, it was fortuitous that when I 1st made ctc w/ CL, she was only 16 n her age was a strong deterrent n I tried to be indifferent to her. However, I did assume that she liked me n was going to fall for me…hahaha. This belief is always very attractive n powerful.
Next time when u meet ur dream gal, be attentive sometimes, ignore her at other times, use push-pull n never reveal ur true feelings for her. Demonstrate ur masculine traits n self mastery n be prepared to walk away if ur boundaries r violated.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
beautyhunter
今天正月初七
人日快乐
祝大家
贵人帮你
小人躲你
爱人爱你
老板疼你
友人罩你
彩卷中你
金钱黏你
好运跟你
祝Warbird
心想事成，身体健康
Dear Bro beautyhunter,
Ths so much, u make my day!
Happy new Year!!
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Originally Posted by
michkim2
Bro WB,
Thanks for sharing your experience. I had picked up a lot from this thread and your advice.
I am newbie to BY and not sure what to do. Had a session with a FL (working in KTV) and on my RTF session with her, she propose for me to BY her. Of course, I knew that these girls cannot be trusted and probably have two or three guys BY-ing her. But from the last two mths, I must say that there was no evidence of her doing that or any FL. But not sure about her 出街 with her KTV clients.
Anyway I tried to break off with her but she is trying to hang onto me. Do not want to cause a big commotion and need advice on how to break away from the BY arrangement.
Hi Bro michkim2,
If u r already fxking or ST-ing her, why do u want to BY her?
Just say no to BY, n if u like her, keep fxking her.
BTW, I will never BY a gal who has done ST.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Terminology of BY is totally yours, no need to work, just wait & home to service & fulfill your every need.
If you allow her to still work and you cannot financially maintain her $$$ requirement, then you did not totally BY her & you just opened pandoras box.
Like I said before, see what you cant, dun see wat you can cos the TRUTH is 99% usually at what you cant see!
There are ways of catching and very effective but I’ll leave that to Guru WarBird to pass on his skills to you.
Dear Mr. Chairman,
Good to hear from u.
Yes, BY or 包养 means exactly that: no work n no seeing other men/boys n her pussy is exclusively urs. You own her n her pussy exclusively. Period.
There r many strategies to ensure a gal’s faithfulness, hehehe. When I’m 99+% sure of her fidelity to me n after 5-6 months of negative blood tests n gyne exams, then n only then I’ll fxk her raw.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
aczeta76
hahaa… guess he needs to know that is no Parttime BY
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
LOL
BY = Ownership
This is called time sharing!
Dear Masters,
Yes, if the gal works, it’s impossible to ensure exclusivity, hahaha.
Hv a great day!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
chenzong
I can understand it very well too, it’s the same for me. Unlike you, though, I have gone past the “want to catch up” phase and am perfectly happy at my present situation: home-cooked food with lots of love. I am a very blessed man indeed.
Hi bro chenzong,
I’m very happy that u hv found ur true love. Yes, you’re blessed.
Don’t forget u are much younger than I n I had been in ur present situation for a very long time too…
But things change n people change…nothing lasts forever in this Universe.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
michkim2
Bro Aczeta76, DYBJ & WB,
Thanks to all your advice on my situation.
I will cut my losses and get out to look out for other SYT.
Maybe I was mistaken by the Xin2 episode where she was working during transition.
Need some advice on amount to pay as I am spending about 6-7k on allowance and etc. Wanted her to move out for more time together but she want to stay with her jie mei!
Time for me to move on. Again thanks for your advices.
Hi bro michkim2,
What you’re paying is within the range, although slightly closer to the high end, for “part-time BY” when ur gal continues to work.
IMHO, the fact that ur gal doesn’t want to move out to be close to u raises a red flag. She is hiding something n/or she doesn’t value the RS…
I also hv a “part-time BY” (she is currently in PRC but will return soon). for whom I’m paying 6K a month plus some gifts occasionally, only when we r together in SG. She is a popular gal at TAM complex who works only SH. She wants to move to a master bedrm very close to me, which is quite far from Havelock rd. I said NO as my “lao po” is nearby…
She says I dun make love to her often enuff…last time we met, she said: 你亲我下面 (her pussy), 你很久没有亲我下面了 。。。I didn’t even though she has very pretty pink abalone, she was very displeased. I normally dun do what they want me to so that they will crave me more, hehehe.
Cheers!
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Good morning!
A MAN who has masculine traits, self mastery n sexual mojo is very attractive to the most beautiful gals/women. He is very hard to find…
He must behave like what CL writes:
因为爱情这事，你越是勤快，投入越多，它结果就越差。只 有像懒人养花一样，爱搭不理，偶尔关心一下，才会新鲜。关心越少，爱的越久。当一个男人不爱一 个女人的时候 ，往往能把这个女人弄得神魂颠倒，觉得他特MAN，特够味儿，特浪漫，特霸道特酷特能掌控大局 。女人喜欢甚 至崇拜这样的男人，因为她们觉得有一种小鸟依人的感觉…
I may not want CL to come to SG when she turns 18 in June cuz she could be trouble for me. She will be too sticky n needy…it’s better if I go to meet her in PRC or HKG n spend short time w/ her.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Good afternoon to all samsters!
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Originally Posted by
chenzong
Indeed you are right. Who would have known that “religious” guy like me would one day find himself in this forum! Nothing lasts forever in this Universe, and people change.
Change is inevitable n we all hv to accept it.
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Originally Posted by
tamelover
what’s wrong with this forum bro ? :confused
Nothing, haha.
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Originally Posted by
michkim2
Many thanks Bro WB for yr advice. I am a newbie to BY and have much to learn. I believe and probably know I am paying over market rate. I will dump my current gal from DC. Too skinny and A boobs, although she has a pretty face.
Other than physical body proportion and face, I agree with senior bros that their performance in bed is most important!
I am doing her raw after medical test but she doesn’t want to try anal. Already kick up an issue without emotion! Although she offer having sex in car but done that and not interest. Just give her cold shoulder since yesterday and she is smsing me. Not going to response to her.
I believe she will come begging for me to take her back but no can do!
Interested to look for new stock. Any recommendation or ctc?
Hi bro michkim2,
Pls read the post by our true master, bro DUBJ aka Mr. chairman, below.
Recommendations? One man’s meat is another man’s poison.
It’s strange that I know a few gals who r exceptionally pretty but hv A or A/B boobs, n they r all from Jiangsu!
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Originally Posted by
goodpartner
OMG… Lots of tips and lessons from this thread. Where have I been? LoL
Camp!……….
Recently about 2 month ago got to know this KTV girl in China Doll during one of the session. Tall, slender, B+ Cupper, very sweet looks. She was not sitting with me but took the chance to give me her# and say she likes me. Tested her by jokingly ask her to go hotel with a $1000 note but she rejected…
Fast forward till today, still have not bed her. WTF :|
However, she initiated SMS and call me; came out for movies, dinner, where I offer to pay for her time; she asked for same amount as bao-ing her in room. Reason being that she’s here to “work” blah blah… (new here, kenna cheated, etc.) Invited me to visit her “work place” (pub) for drinks, where she works PT & got her work permit.
So far, as per TS’s doctrine
I like to think I’m in “control” being the one that “care less”, leaving her always to contact me first. But I do always follow-up with some teasing like “You’re only interested in $$$” (she replied YES candidly), and I’ll say “let’s get married and have kids” (in which she answered :are you sure?), and “must I pay her time to have dinner with her?” (where she answered: I’m funny), etc.
After sending her back, she’ll always pause before alighting, bend forward and give me a light kiss on my face; still no lips contact. Not that she reject any, but I also play cool so far.
So that’s the game I’m playing now. The tension that’s slowly building up when being challenged to bed her is so exciting…
Would appreciate any tips from all the experts here
Hi bro goodpartner,
What is ur mission ? To ST or BY her or to KC her?
Always Be Closing!
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
For havelock pricing, a PRC running table from HH to SH non stop can make 10k a month easy.
But she’ll be tired to death.
Like what the Guru WB said, your 6-7k quite generous liaozzz plus she still works and not your back and call.
As for the part where she doesn’t want to leave her jie mei’s, it’s so that she has lots of space to maneuver and they can be her alibis and you have no grounds to control or challenge them.
In future, be STRONG and be FIRM.
6-7k a month terms and conditions are:
I leave the rest to the other bros to teach you.
Hi Mr. Chairman,
You’re right on.
However, few men hv ur expertise n sexual mojo n may need to pay a bit more.
In my experience, popular Havelock gals who dun work usually demand 10-12K or more a month, subject to negotiation.
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Oldest trick in the book & never fails.
You: 你是谁的？
Her: 我是你的
You: 我是你的谁？
Her: 宝贝or男朋友or老公
You: 那我要你给我一个你没给过任何人的证明给我你是真的！
Works all the time!
Fantastic n practical advice that can be used immediately. Of course must be said w/ assertiveness n confidence n w/ the voice n body language to match.
We should never be tentative n ask a gal’s permission to do anything! But dun use brute force either!
Ths so much!
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Originally Posted by
slider_72
Hahaha. This conversation sounds so damned familiar.
Cheers bro.
Isn’t it great advice?
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Dear Guru WB, it’s only subject to negotiation if there’s a WANT.
But if there’s a take it or leave it attitude, the negotiation factor is already eliminated from the beginning thus putting only YOU in control.
Remember dun cut the whole forest for a tree?
Dear Mr. Chairman,
Actually the “WANT” part is not always true for me.
I love negotiating n bargaining n paying below market value for anything n everything including pussies of my type.
If a gal asks for 10K a month, n even if I think she is worth every penny, I’ll tell her 8K, hehe. Yes, I’ll walk away if she rejects the offer cuz even if she says yes, I may not hv the time, energy, money or any spunk left to BY her, hahaha.
I enjoy getting gals of my type to agree to BY n negotiating the terms, etc more than the actual BY, hahaha. After all, how many gals can a lao ah pek like me keep at any one time? Perhaps 3, max. My heart may be willing but, unfortunately, 我的小弟弟真的吃不消了。。。
If I were a young n virile man like u, I’ll definitely keep many more, hehehe.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
goodpartner
Ya, I saw that ABC and AIDI youtube clip and it’s really extreme but funny and drives home the point
I didn’t do the closing part well…
My mission, I think (see, I actually don’t know
) is to bed her eventually but like to enjoy the process/challenge before reaching the destination, knowing that she’ll be here for at least 6 months. I’m just bored with the usual pay and farkoff thingy after being jaded chionging so much in the past.
So ya, just a “ST” thingy as the destination but don’t mind playing KC. Maybe since she actually rejected that $1000 note (initially offered just the market rate) that make me more determine to get her for “free”… maybe that’s what I’m thinking lor… Aiya, you know lah.
No, I’m not into BY any girl as I don’t find it value for money on the surface… and that’s maybe because I’ve not evaluate the pros/cons sufficiently.
So, for such girl where they seemingly do not “sell”, what are the strategies?
Hi goodpartner，
Offer her 2k for ST. If u give her a good time, u will pay her less n less for RTFs. It takes time n effort to KC these gals. You can’t win unless u hv formidable self mastery.
If she rejects ur offer, walk away from her. As for me, I’ll offer to BY her, hehe.
Good luck!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
michkim2
Bro WB,
Thanks for yr advice.
My ex-gal from DC is from Henan. If you are done with yr Jiangsu gals, can pm me their ctc? I like slim gals with B/C boobs and slim legs, about 162-165 range. Of course not more than 25yo but will consider if gal is real pretty.
Plan to go hunting around havelock area. Wish me luck.
Hi bro,
There is only one Jiangsu gal who is still around. She is 23, 172 in height n abt 52-53 kg, fair, very pretty n classy, long legs/arms n nice ass, but only A boobs. She goes to LV n TAM. Student visa. Very few gals can match her classy good looks n height. If only she had natural B/C boobs…BTW, I last saw her abt 10 days ago at LV SH.
I need to find her ctc as my HP suddenly mal-functioned 3 days ago n I couldn’t tell who was calling or texting me. I hv since transferred the sim card to a new phone but I hv lost abt half the ctc list!
Forget her if u want a least B/C boobs like I do now.
Good luck!
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Good morning,
I’m overwhelmed n awe-struck by the exchanges between the many esteemed bros n bro DYBJ aka Mr. Chairman. These r pearls of wisdom n profound insights from which I hv learned a great deal.
Thank you all!
The secret to getting what u want in life is ur degree of self confidence/self mastery. It’s the foundation upon which u add strategies, education, knowledge, expertise, connections, friendship, RS, love, sex techniques, etc.
In man-woman RS, if a man is still worried that he may be unattractive to chio babes cuz he is too ugly, too fat, too thin, too short, too tall, too poor, too rich, too young, too old, of a different skin color, different religion, etc, he doesn’t understand attraction n he has insufficient self mastery.
My advice is to google Sean Stephenson, hahaha. He is a very badass n he has lots of self mastery…more than anyone I hv met. My goal is to hv more self mastery than he has, much much more.
My new interest is in keeping non-WLs.
Yesterday, I had a date, a real one for which I paid nothing other than dinner, w/ two very chio n sexy gals who r NON-WLs. I met a 23 yo gal JR thru QQ in PRC last yr. She just came to study at a reputable school in SG. We made ctc n she asked to meet me for dinner n I agreed. Although her school is near CBD, she lived in the dorm very far away so I told her I would pick her up after school. She asked if her classmate could come along, I reluctantly said yes.
I parked my car near a MRT station not far from their school. I was pleasantly surprised that her fren VO is a pretty SYT! She is barely 18, 165 n 49kg? Both gals exude sex appeal n hv proportionate body/limbs, perky butt n C boobs. JR asks me if I could intro a BF for VO…haha. Why should I give this fresh n delicious abalone to someone else? I want to BY both of them n keep them in one studio near their school, ya. Since these gals hv enuff of their own money for living expenses n school fees, I’ll offer 4-5K a month each plus rental. I’m going for broke here as my “package offer” is for both gals or nothing.
In my conversations w/ them I broached the subject of why God is very fair to women (after JR mentioned that many men kept 充气的娃娃 n I answered that many women kept vibrators, hehe)。Though they suffered the hardship of carrying, delivering n carrying for babies, they r bestowed w/ the potential of intense pleasure of orgasms that could last for an hr! They blushed n said they had never heard of it…JR said her orgasms last only secs?!! VO was too shy to look at me n had her head down…
After dinner, I drove them around town, to Orchard road n along Marina Sands. There were road blocks n some sort of carnival there. VO was sitting in the back seat, leaning back, legs spread out n w/ her short skirt, I could get glimpses of her flimsy panty n dark pussy pointing at me when I turned my head to talk to her. I could not see clearly as the street lamps were not bright enuff. She made no attempts to cross her legs or sit up. hahaha. That was a sure sign of strong sexual interest.
When I was w/ them, I was asking myself: How much pleasure can they stand n how hard will they cum for me, hahaha.
I dropped them off at a MRT station. The cost of my fun-filled late afternoon n evening w/ two chio n sexy SYTs who r non-WLs? A grand total of $87. And they were very appreciative…
Why go to KTVs or hang flowers???
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
Hooters666
Bro Warbird
cannot help it but this is damn good story to start the weekend!
I like that part about JR having couple secs of gao chao and VO looking down. I can just visualized that scene there n then!
Again I am learning heaps from this thread as I said 1plus year ago. I don’t have much to contribute as I have no success stories on conquering young attractive ladies………….
Anyway I am not giving up on playing this game.
Best of Health n fuck well!
Hi Bro Hooters,
Yes, VO was blushing n looking down…occasionally glancing at me …very submissive body language n I knew her pussy was wet…haha.
No success stories? Don’t be discouraged. Failure is the mother of success. It’s great to fail early n fail often.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
My Humble greetings and Salutations Guru, actually, after reading this above post over & over & over again, I do see a “WANT!”
Why?
I want to BY you = Want
How much do you want to be BY = Want
She then asks for 10k
8k can or not = Nego = Want
Yes Guru, we have cheong together several times & we both know darn well we do have different approaches towards the same matter.
Thus, we’re the captain of our ship’s & we reserve the right to whichever way we choose to steer them.
As you know me, I will:
Every month how much –> Come with me
She only has room to answer YES or NO and nothing else entertained.
Different strokes for different strokes ya bro WarBird.
Most importantly is that we, get the pussy and KC the shit outta them hehehehehe
My Dear Mr. Chairman,
You’re right, but it’s also a matter of semantics.
Having many “WANTS” in life is great as long as a MAN remains in control of his emotions n desires.
If I connect w/ a chio n sexy SYT of my type n, if she doesn’t do ST n rejects me for ST, I WANT to BY her. As a healthy heterosexual male n a lao chi ko pek, I’m unabashed for hving the desire n sexual urge to BY gals as young as 18. I respect n cherish my primal urge.
However, WANTING to BY many gals of my type neither equates w/ neediness n desperation nor does it indicate my loss of emotional control/self mastery. I can n will walk away if the terms r not acceptable to me. In fact, I hv dumped gals I hv already BY-ed after varying periods, some as short as a wk, for various reasons…for example, if a certain exposed anatomical part is not pleasing or aesthetic to me or if my rules n/or boundaries r violated in any way.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
Big B
Hi goodpartner,
I think it is very important to understand what you want out of the relationship. What works for others may not work for you.
If all you want is pussy, by all means, be the alpha male that both WB and DYBJ described. Its easy because there are limited emotions involved (mainly lust). You clinically access what is required to bring about the desired outcome and JUST DO IT. If you fail, so what? There’s always the next woman to practice on.
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Techniques such as focusing on a woman’s negative points is a skill designed to help bring about this outcome. In fact, by not caring, you will not fall into the trap of behaving like a love sick puppy. And yes, a woman greatly desires a macho man who takes charge - especially if she thinks she can’t have him.
Such emotional self mastery is difficult to completely achieve. On the flip side, I believe that when you do reach such a stage, your abilty to love with wild abandon becomes irrecovably lost and you will never find a soul mate. This is because you will never allow yourself to pour everything you have into a relationship.
By way of background, there are “good” working ladies worth chasing (women who have been forced into doing what they do for whatever reason). These are extremely rare BTW.
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Based on Sifu DYBJ’s analysis, I do not believe your WL fits my definition of good. Please feel free to unleash your inner alpha!
GL!
Hi bro goodpartner,
I disagree w/ ur assertion that a MAN w/ formidable self mastery can’t love a gal/woman deeply. He can. The difference is that he retains control of his emotions n hence the RS n will walk away from her if she commits a grave error. The fact that u r such a MAN will keep her forever attracted n faithful to u.
On the other hand, many previously confident men w/ good self mastery become needy n clingy puppies, after falling in love n spending time w/ their dream women. Sadly, their changed behaviour is very unattractive n will make both of them miserable.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Very very good post, kudos to you.
Yes, you’re right & also wrong.
For the single male, it’s DEVASTATING to master such an ability.
But, for married men, it’s a blessing cos you will have less headaches to deal with i.e the other one
My Dear Mr. Chairman,
Very, very few men hv very good self mastery n emotional control, especially under stressful situations or after spending lots of time w/ their dream gals.
IMHO, such an attribute is great for single men, married men, young men, old men, ugly men, rich men, poor men, fat men, handicapped men, for men such as Sean Stephenson…it’s good for everyone, including females.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
michkim2
Bro WB, thanks for your advice as always ( from reading your comments!)
No issue on the Jiangsu gal. If you managed to find her ctc, appreciate if you can pm me. Would definitely like to check her out.
On your new interest, actually I am also looking out for salon girls and others. Would be thankful if you could share some tips on picking those who are more receptive although I understand it is about your confidence and it is not always 100%.
Thanks again.
Hi bro michkim2,
Be careful. Some PRC salon gals r FLs.
Strategies n techniques r helpful, but the key is ur degree of self confidence n emotional control.
A guru writes:
The secret to becoming amazing at attracting women is to remember that you already are.
Cheers!
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Good afternoon,
I’m obsessed w/ developing absolute self mastery n achieving unconditional happiness. Everything else in life is of secondary importance to me.
For most of my life, I used to hv poor self mastery n being unhappy whenever I encountered minor inconveniences…
“Great successes are built on taking your negatives and turning them around.” –Sumner Redstone,
I’m reaching my goals slowly n steadily, hahaha.
Good day!
Bro WB
Good morning!
I hv more musings on bedding KTV gals.
I started another thread on “KTV kakis” n I hv received many responses.
Some kakis r rich, others r not.
Let me stress that money is a prerequisite for getting into the pants of these PRC WLs, even for those who r regular gals n non-WLs back in PRC.
You need money to connect w/ them, then n only then u can give them COS n/or KC them.
There is another way.
If a bro has little money, the only way is to pick up a pretty gal outside KTVs n connect w/ her n develop deep rapport w/ her. Not knowing that she is a KTV gal or WL is an advantage.
Who knows, if u hv formidable self confidence/self mastery, a healthy sense of humor n, though still poor, u are a man going somewhere, dedicated to a definite purpose or path in life, a very chio SYT might just fall for u, hehehe. Of course u must give her regular COS no man has given her n never, ever be needy n can walk away from her anytime…kudos to u!!
BTW, hving real self confidence is abt improving urself, improving others n improving something. You r genuinely comfortable in ur own skin n hv NOTHING TO PROVE.
If u hv something to prove or like to show off, that is arrogance, which reflects ur innate insecurity n inferiority complex. Can’t fool me, hehehe.
On the other hand, I hv some frens/bros here in SG n a few frens in Gotham City who r very wealthy. BY-ing a gal for 10-20K a month or hanging 10-20K flowers for a singer is like spending $10-20 for an ordinary “salary man,” no, maybe only $1 for some of them, or even $0.10 for at least a couple of them. They want to keep as many chio gals as humanly possible. I dun expect hem to hv time to pick up or court any gals.
There r different paths to chio pussies, just like there r different paths to enlightenment, hahaha.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
michkim2
Bro WB,
I am learning every time I come to this thread!
Thanks for sharing and will definitely read up on your other thread!
Bro michkim2,
You make my day!
I come across new info n new revelations on self mastery, RS n sexology almost everyday. I like to share what I think is useful cuz it helps me learn faster. And I want to practice n practice n practice…
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
mercedes500
bro warbird,
mind enlightening what is COS, been seeing this term many times over many posts
thank
Hi bro mercedes500,
COS is Continuous Orgasmic State. It’s NOT the same as multiple orgasms.
Some gurus/authors use such terms as stacked orgasms, expanded orgasms, cascading orgasms, etc. which may be slightly different.
And then of course there r many types of orgasm such as clitoral, g spot, deep spot, vaginal (during penetration), combined, anal, nipple, squirting, etc.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Big B
Hi bro goodpartner,
I disagree w/ ur assertion that a MAN w/ formidable self mastery can’t love a gal/woman deeply. He can. The difference is that he retains control of his emotions n hence the RS n will walk away from her if she commits a grave error. The fact that u r such a MAN will keep her forever attracted n faithful to u.
On the other hand, many previously confident men w/ good self mastery become needy n clingy puppies, after falling in love n spending time w/ their dream women. Sadly, their changed behaviour is very unattractive n will make both of them miserable.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Hi WB,
I made the comment, not goodpartner. LOL
As you can no doubt see, we are men with strong opinions and tend to stick with our “conclusions” in the absence of overwhelming proof to the contrary. Still, we are not blind and can change our minds as and when required.
While I do advocate not giving into a woman’s whim completely, there will be instances when a man is chasing after a lady of strong character (WL or none-WL).
This is a case where a man has to give some leeway (but he will be completely aware of his actions) while setting clear boundaries. If you behave like a complete alpha male, such women will be turned off because it feels like dating a brick wall. The smart & observant man will know when he meets a woman of this type.
Women of strong character love to test a man’s manliness so do remember to lay down the law when boundaries are crossed. Say something steely in a calm tone:
“如果你继续不尊重我，我们连朋友也不能做.”
Cheers!
Big B[/QUOTE]
Hi Big B,
It depends what u mean by “complete alpha male.”
The “alpha male” most people come to understand is a self-centered, domineering, arrogant, aggressive n quick-tempered male. Such a male actually lacks self confidence n self mastery n has something to prove to the world. He tries to bed as many chio gals as possible cuz it gives him validation n boosts his fragile ego. Whereas a real MAN has nothing to prove. He has real self mastery n he wants to improve himself, improve others n improve everything around him…
A woman of strong character? Pls define such a woman.
Every healthy heterosexual woman, even if she is a fanatic feminist, is hard-wired to be attracted to a real MAN w/ masculine traits n formidable self mastery.
A woman displaying pervasive disrespect towards u??
Why r you still talking to her?? Pls walk out of her life asap even if u love her n truly believe that she is the most beautiful woman in the world. I’ll
say calmly n gently to such a woman
as she is begging me not to leave n wondering what she should do n where she should go:
“Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.”
You know the rest of the story, hahaha.
If she is a PRC gal, this will be be my last words to her (delivered calmly n gently):
“坦白地说,亲爱的,我现在一点也不在乎（你的死活）.”
Be a MAN bro.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
Big B
Hi Bro WB,
I think we’re thinking the same thing, just expressing them differently.
How about this then. Even if a person is the completely confident man as defined in your post, can this person say he can win every woman he desires?…………………
What if a girl has too much pride to ever beg or show she needs you? Saying “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.” heralds a complete end to a potentially viable relationship. Such a man chooses to walk away because a relationship of “almost” equals is not what he desires.
This dominant male wants to possess, own and control. Essentially, “my way or the highway.” Push-pull techniques are simply lures to ensnare the unwary into falling in love with you. By the time the victim(s) realise it, the poison has already spread.
Letting a strong woman “appear” (I cannot stress this word enough) as the boss while you secretly pull the strings is a completely workable and successful technique. The power couple Bill (the thinker/doer) and Melinda (the charismatic “shock and awe” speaker/presenter) Gates is just one such example and they bring out the very best in each other………………………
BTW, I have realised that my topic is on winning a true life partner that helps a man achieve self actualization. Nothing absolutely to do with “Picking up KTV gals outside KTVs” so I shall conclude my little diatribe with apologies for derailing the original intent of the thread………………..
Big B
Hi Bro Big B,
Even if a MAN has absolute self mastery, there will be many, many women (married women n those in love w/ other men, etc) beyond his reach. He is perfectly happy w/ that. Otherwise, there will be chaos…
No, I was not talking abt gals who r “proud,” confident, poised, aloof, cool …n never needy or overly possessive… they hv very attractive qualities, to me at least; I was referring to gals who display
PERVASIVE DISRESPECT
towards me. I couldn’t walk out on them fast enough.
I know some men who get KC-ed by such “strong” n abusive women who show pervasive disrespect towards them, n chose remain in the RS, thinking that it’s a potentially viable RS. It’s not, n will never be. It’s a very miserable RS for both partners.
IMHO, all healthy heterosexual women r attracted to a MAN w/ masculine character traits, high ranking on the Male Dominant Scale n strong self mastery. If You’re such a MAN, u will attract ur true life partner, soul mate, true love, etc., not just a lover or mistress.
My mindset has changed radically since I started this thread in June of 2009.
Now I’m not trying to conquer anything or anyone, or to prove anything to the world. My singular mission n purpose in life is to improve myself, constantly n relentlessly, everyday n in every way possible, to improve others n to improve everything around me…
My interest in n focus on this thread hv evolved profoundly in the last 32 months n are not just abt picking up KTV gals or any gals or even man-woman RS. It’s more abt self actualization, self discovery n
SELF MASTERY
. My RS w/ everyone else n w/ the world I live in is merely a reflection of my inner true self n my self mastery…
Your comments n criticisms will be appreciated.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
Big B
Heya Bro WB,
always a delight to read your well considered posts!
This topic is best discussed over drinks so thoughts/ideas can be supported and better illustrated. Posts over such a complex topic can often be misinterpreted due to the limitations of this medium…………..
If a gal is just plain rude, she will never be attractive to men such as us. Some men get KCed because they crave a challenge (which I suspect is what goodpartner desires - not saying the gal is rude, but it sounds like a difficult chase)………………………….
Coming back to your point, what if something we did caused a gal to give us pervasive disrespect? In such a case, I will eat humble pie and apologise (the magnitude of which will be commensurate with the perceived wrong). If the gal thinks she “won” and persists in unreasonable behaviours, your response would be entirely appropriate. I would also make it clear to the girl that our breakdown was due to her action/inactions…………………
Your growth over the months Bro WB is clear and significant. Your successes are a testament to that fact. Something that I would add that you may have already considered is what I call “true compatibility” between couples (both physical and mental).
A man can learn what to say to bring about the right response from a gal once her personality traits are established. For instance, give praise to a woman who values her own beauty (but has internal low self-esteem) or use macho statements on girls who desire he-men.
Men who achieve this skill become “Players”. Women who master such skills can toy with men’s feelings because they can mask their real emotions and show you what you desire often for the goal of sex or money. Very dangerous as they can pretend to be anyone they want to snare the unwary but also dangerous for them, as the weak willed lose themselves.
See that handsome playa who broods unhappily at the corner when he thinks no one is looking? Does that look indicate real happiness to you? How about couples you see as mismatched? Handsome man and ugly gal? Have you looked closer? That man looks blissfully happy on 2nd inspection. He has decided what he wants in a relationship and has achieved what brings him happiness……………………………..
To find a soul mate is to find a lady who loves you for being YOU. So being a MCP would give a soul mate feelings of security and comfort while another woman would find the same man boorish and rude. Women who likes YOU would gravitate and be attracted to you.
In the end, a man should understand what brings him happiness and just get to living life (the main difficulty is realising just what type of partner gives you bliss)…………….
You cannot deny who you are and we are mighty indeed.
Big B
Dear Bro Big B,
Ths so much for ur well written n insightful post.
If I hv made an egregious error in judgment which is hurtful to my mistress, I’ll apologize to her n do my best to restore her confidence n trust in me. If she continues to show pervasive disrespect toward me, the RS is over. Period.
How to become unconditionally happy is my favorite topic. Happiness is an internal state and must be independent of other people n external circumstances. Oftentimes, we hv little control over the behaviour of other human beings including those closest to us n to the world we live in. What if there is a fatal accident involving our loved ones or a natural cataclysm? The only thing we can control is our own emotions n happiness…our self mastery.
Lao Zi: “He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still.”
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
Kalv
Great thread/opinions/discussions
. IMHO all relationships are about
chemistry
(see my signature below) and
fate
. We
cannot understand many things
.
Life is so interesting because no two persons think alike
- many "
unlikely" couples
(in our perceptions - rightly or wrongly)
happily married.
A
Win-Win
situation is the
ideal
. Both
must be happy
with the outcomes for a relationship to last - regardless of, with
WLs or life partners
.
Great relationships
are based on
mutual respects, trusts, equality, honesty
etc.
Most importantly
on
chemistry
. Difficult questions : “Marry one you
love more
or the one who
loves you more
??” “Marry
same or complementary
characters?” Often
never equal
.
Relationships with WLs
are
more/very complicated
-
avoid at all costs
. Just my opinion -
no need to agree
.
Unfortunately (just tried)
unable to upz
U again.
Cheers.
Drear Bro Kalv,
Great post! Short n sweet.
I’ll marry the one who loves me more. Applying my new found understanding n self mastery, the other party will always like/love me more in all my current n future RS, haha.
Cheers!
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Good morning!
As u recall, I met two chio non-WL students JR n VO earlier this month. Last Fri afternoon I proposed the idea of BY-ing both of them under one roof! It was a bold move as I risked losing both of them.
I called JR at 3PM while she was at school n she was taken very surprised but promised to ask VO n get back to me. It took them 1 hr n their answer was YES n they would like to meet me for dinner after school at 6PM.
I picked them up at a MRT station n took them to dinner. I sent them back to a MRT station near Orchard Rd n then rushed to DC for my scheduled SH session at 920PM. Gals there were disappointing n I called my lao po to come at 10PM…
I hv been in active negotiations over the terms of double BY w/ JR n VO. However, their original terms r not acceptable to me n I hv made a counter offer. If they say NO, I’ll walk away. They say no to tarma, at least in the beginning, which greatly diminishes the value of double BY.
Separately, the 17 yo gorgeous Fujian gal FF I met one yr ago wants to return to SG on a visitor’s pass n has agreed to my terms. I told her to come in mid May when I’ll be here again.
My post on FF, 21/02/2011:
“I’m not BY-ing FF bcos she is only 17 according to her passport. I guess I may hv to add her to the list of gals who hv consented to BY but I wont or couldnt consummate the deal, at least for now. I hv not given up yet since she is so cute n so fresh…my didi becomes very stiff just thinking of her. I’m checking w/ my lawyers to find a solution. She is leaving SG soon. I may hv to wait till the 2nd half of the yr when she turns 18. If I take her out for dinner n only french her, am I breaking any laws? I’ll tell her to apply for a student visa.”
I hv yet another gal who agrees to BY, the 169cm JY whom I met at TAM late last yr. I also want her to come in May, hahaha.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Good morning!
More on my double BY: The older JR has rejected my terms, but the younger VO has hinted that she would accept my offer as she finds me trustworthy n she feels safe w/ me…
Separately, a few days ago I reestablished ctc w/ a Fujian gal XYZ who agreed to be BY-ed in Dec of 2009. The deal was not consummated cuz she insisted on getting paid once a month, whereas I said half monthly or else. Shortly thereafter, she went back to PRC for CNY, but was unable to return to SG, most likely due to her prior arrest for working at LV. She was a chio, fair n tall (170) SYT w/ a very sexy figure n nice long legs. See my post on her:
http://sbf.net.nz/showthre...133505&page=48
The reason I mentioned her is that I found something on her QQ which is quite illuminating n insightful:
婚姻，只是一纸合约。爱情，也不是绳索。对方，永远不是你的附属。爱情不是永远的，婚姻不是永远的，只有一 种永远：自由与平等。你们随时有权决定在一起或不在一起。而且，根本不需要理由。以婚姻的名义，以爱情的名 义，去独占对方，去限制对方，去管理对方，去教育对方，都是可耻的。也是悲剧的根源。
I couldn’t agree w/ her more. Yeah, freedom n equality.
Cheers!
Bro WB