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No point using limited life to chase unlimited money.
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No point earning so much money you cannot live to spend it.
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Money is not yours until you spend it.
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When you are young, you use your health to chase your wealth; when you are old, you use your wealth to buy back your health. Difference is that, it is too late.
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How happy a man is, is not how much he has but how little he needs.
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No point working so hard to provide for the people you have no time to spend with.
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Originally Posted by
Jackal Junior
Bro Warbird
How was the latest mission to TAM? Any success? Look forward to our next mission: I have a target in mind from our previous mission; even though she is from the ’tak boleh’ camp, I think she is worth a shot.
Hi Bro JJ,
Not that many gals of my type. We may want to go LV next time. A ’tak boleh’ gal means that u need to spend more time n more money to bed her…
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
Loving_Dickhead
ok bros, long time no post here. Reality check for those who are still thinking of making a love kill in HFJs or even KTVs.
Recently one of my younger sister is back in town (obviously she was farked good by me even though she is a sister) and asked me to go down and see her. I did and we ended up in a hotel romping happily away. While I was at her joint, a so-called guy with reputation bombed her $6.5! She told him her aunty came and tummy pain thus need to rest… that idiot even 买场 for her to rest for the last set. I left before she went to the customer and once he PAID, she went “home” into my car across the road and off we go for supper plus some serious farking…………………….
Fast forward to my recent invited trip to a joint along middle road where I met my ex. She also has a iPhone 4 and having problems with it. While fixing the software, she went to another table and I took the opportunity to scroll through the contacts pad. There were many familiar names and places where I used to cheong. The remarks associated with these fellows were amazing. Since I am retired, I have no need to prove any point but I know even singer has multiple strategies on how to deal with a customer/patron. They tell you in your face 【你是好人】 but in their heart you are a sex fiend or 【烂客】………………………..
Well bros, no matter how good you think you treat a HFJ singer or how strong your reputation is/was; tell me honestly do you really think the singers will say good or positive things about you when you stopped hanging for whatever reasons? Remember this note: 【装B者, 破产】.
Anyway, me seldom cheong HFJs now… even if I managed to do so at a bro’s invitation, I will hang only $100/- or not even hang at all.
Wakie wake my friends…
Cheers,
LDH..
Hi Bro LDH,
Ths for ur detailed discourse on the dark side of these singers. It’s quite a revelation. BY-ing singers is definitely not for the faint of heart, n to a lesser extent it also applies to BY-ing any gals.
Cheers!
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Good morning!
It’s clear from Bro LDH’s post that BY-ing is tricky n a tough game to master n takes lots of time n money. If a man can’t control his ego n his heart, he doesn’t belong in the game. He will get burnt n scarred, both financially n emotionally, hehehe.
It all boils down to a man’s
self mastery
. If he doesn’t hv it, he will surely fail in BY-ing n in any man-woman RS for that matter, n he will also experience great difficulties n misery in all areas of his life. He will be a failure. Period.
I normally shun singers for many reasons. Bad hrs, very high friction cost…also, before I can see a gal’s bare thighs n legs, how would I know she is my type? Why should I risk one dollar?
One of my gals is returning to PRC soon n the other day she showed me a pic of a singer, her good fren. Her fren is 22, who has been here 2 wks, n is 171 w/o shoes n has nice figure n legs, which caught my attention. She asked me to take care of here, haha. I need to meet her in person 1st, not at the HFJ, but outside, in broad daylight…
My strategy is simple. If she is my type, I’ll execute Plan A: I’ll “keep” her for a fixed amt per wk, a low amt bcos I’ll fxk her only once a wk n I dun care if her pussy is exclusive to me. I’ll not even set foot in her joint.
Plan B will be costly. It will happen only if she is extremely attractive to me (very unlikely). I’ll need to see her at least twice before deciding (see my reasons below). I’ll then negotiate w/ her company n buy all her working sessions for the whole month. I’ll keep her in a place very close to me.
In my personal experience, gals who look stunningly attractive the 1st time I see them may turn out to be rather average looking n, in rare cases, downright homely only days or wks later.
Abt 10 days ago, I was at PC food court talking to a well-connected fren who spends most of his time there, then I saw her…OMG! She was very pretty, abt 22-23, 170-171, wearing sandals n hot pants. Very fair n sexy figure, B/C boobs, round n shapely butt n nice long legs. I told myself, if I could hv her, I would forget all my LAO POs. She was w/ couple of gals (I dun remember how they look like) n I approached her n asked: 美人，你在那里上班？She replied: 我没上班。Before I had a chance to continue, she was pulled away by her frens…I later asked my fren abt her n requested that he get her ctc for me. I knew she was being kept by some man, but I told my fren I would double whatever she was getting.
Didn’t see her again until yesterday where I found her hving late lunch w/ several gals. To my big disappointment, she looked very ordinary!!? Still had a body to die for though. Could her boobs be augmented n how pretty n tight is her pussy? I talked to my fren abt the fact she looked quite different now. He laughed n said she didn’t hv make up today. Well, I still want to fxk her, but not sure abt BY, hehehe.
I should approach investing in stock n BY-ing gals the same way. Never be too hasty in BY-ing a gal until u hv seen her a few times in broad daylight n got to know her well enuff. I hv had my share of unpleasant surprises in the past.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
jackyh69
brother warbird,
i have read through most of your post in this thread. you are one truly wooing girl expert.
learned a few pointers from you. thanks!
Hi bro,
I’m a beginner who is very eager to learn…n working very diligently toward my goals.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
chenzong
I used to frequent hfjs when I was stationed in SH….
HFJs are truly not for the faint of heart if you want to bed a singer. I do not see them as good ROI, seriously speaking. If you want an ego trip, of course, then that’s another story. One patron I know of is going bankrupt and yet still dump his money there. It’s really so interesting how a person wants to look good at any cost.
Hi bro chenzong,
Ths for ur post.
There r some people out there who need to put up a facade of wealth n status to protect their fragile/damaged ego n profound insecurity/inferiority complex.
They would rather die than to lose face. I feel deeply sorry for their pathetic behaviour.
My mentor always reminds me to make my ego smaller n smaller every day…he says the smaller the better n when it becomes infinitesimal, I’ll hv no worries n only lots of happiness n security, hehehe.
Cheers!
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Good morning!
Has anyone here ever been rejected for sex by ur OC/wife/lao po/mistress/er nai/GF/lover/FB/xiao san/xiao mi, etc? It sucks, doesn’t? Of course, if u r dominant enuff, they will never say no, even if they r not in the right mood. The best approach is to make them horny all the time, give them regular COS n they will want to fxk u more than u want to fxk them.
Men r ready for sex when they r w/ women who find physically attractive. Women r very different. The key to turning them on is anticipation/sexual tension n a man’s magic touch, hehehe. What he says n the way he says it is also crucial.
I like to share w/ bros here some useful info on a concept known as “All Day Foreplay,” written by a famous guru.
“All Day Foreplay”
The concept of “all day foreplay” is one that I talk about a lot,
and it’s one of the most important ideas to get if you want to learn
to NEVER be sexually rejected.
It is the easiest and most reliable way to get her
EMOTIONALLY hot.
And, for relationships, it is one of the best ways to make
your woman feel appreciated, to make her feel beautiful, to make
her feel well cared for, and to make her feel sexy.
And when she feels that way, she will want to make you feel
great too.
Make no mistake about this: TRYING to make each other
feel great is very good medicine for any relationship.
Unfortunately, the truth is, that the longer you have been in
a relationship, the more familiar you become with each other, the
more you take each other for granted.
Foreplay usually consists of rolling over “going for it” after
you finished brushing your teeth and getting into bed.
But there is nothing more flattering to a woman than when
you take the time to SEDUCE her, to make her feel like you are
trying just as hard to get into her pants as you did on your third
date.
She will respond much more powerfully to your advances if
you make the effort to romance her and not just try to fuck her.
All of the ideas above are important…
You can seduce her with words, with touch, with the way
you look at her, with the way you act towards her, or with the
emotional messages you send towards her.
And if she is feeling frustrated, tense, or pissed off, then you
will have to do these things gradually, and work your way through
intermediate emotions to make her relaxed or happy or laughing or
silly…
And then you can turn on the romance and the seduction.
She will appreciate you in powerful ways the next morning if
you can transition her in this way.
Remember this: If a woman says that she is not in the mood
to have sex tonight, that statement means absolutely nothing in
terms of how she MIGHT feel 30 seconds later.
But all of these things are the HARD WAY of going about it.
The EASY WAY is “all day foreplay.”
When you are doing all day foreplay right it is a lot of fun for
both of you.
The basic rule—do and say things throughout the day that
make her feel sexy.
Don’t be concerned with getting her turned on. That is not
the point. Don’t be concerned with making her think that YOU are
sexy. That is not the point either.
Make HER feel sexy and desired, and she will respond
immediately when you are ready for sex.
Why?
Because she will really like being your sexy and desired
creature… the object of your affection.
And when it is time for making love, she will not want to
break that beautiful fantasy.
What are some specific things that you could do to create all
day foreplay?
When she catches you staring at her and asks what you are
looking at, tell her that you are just looking at her because she is
beautiful.
…Or tell her that you are having a sexual fantasy about her.
Come up behind her during the day and whisper something
in her ear like, “I can’t wait to make love to you later,” or “You’re
beautiful,” or “I’m going to eat you alive,” or “You smell good,” or
just about anything else that makes her feel sexy and desired.
Send her an email, or a text message, or a voice mail saying
the same kind of thing if you are at work.
But most important of all…
TOUCH HER.
And touch her often.
Women love to be touched. It is a powerful reward to them.
And withholding your touch is probably the worst thing you could
do for your relationship.
Many men have a problem with touching too often. Sure,
they’ll touch when it’s time for sex…
But when a woman feels like the only time you are touching
her is when you want to get laid, she will begin to feel cheap and
unloved. She will feel nervous and begin to reject you more.
Touch her throughout the day whenever you can.
Stroke her hair, give her arm a squeeze, pat her on the ass…
and give her hugs as often as you possibly can. Kiss her ear, bite
the back of her neck, run you hands over her legs, and if nobody is
around, look into her eyes and give softly stroke her breasts.
Strong, full-body hugs, showing off a bit of masculine
strength while wrapping her up in your arms will make her feel
protected and happy… if you hold the hug for more than 20
seconds or so, some studies say that it will cause her body to
release the hormone oxytocin, which will make her feel powerfully
bonded feelings towards you.
And smile at her. Smiles are both contagious and sexy when
it comes to all day foreplay.
Here’s my personal guarantee:
If you touch her twice as much as you do now, she will reject
you half as often…
Bro WB’s 2 cents: The other secret is ANTICIPATION. Go fast n slow n connect-disconnect from her, bro. Be unpredictable n make her laugh. And of course give her regular COS n squirting orgasms. Be careful, she will fall for u, hahaha.
Cheers n hv fun!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Hi Bro Warbird, how was your catch yesterday? I had a not so shabby catch myself at LV last night and I’m planning to work on it though her singing contract will end in about 3 month’s time. She’s gonna buy me lunch next week so let’s wait and see… that’s her in my avatar and I have also MMS you…
Btw, LV is celebrating its 8th anniversary the whole of this week so they are providing buffet for HH and SH, and the place is overflowing with so many gals. But not to be too happy, about 30 to 40% of them really CMI, just there to try their luck but like you said, one man’s meat is another man’s poison.
Hi Bro FA,
I was indeed my good fortune to run into u at TAM complex 2 days ago.
I guess u were too busy to come to my rm on the 1st fl to say hello.
I didn’t call the tall gal I met outside the lift. I found another gal YY who is also 169, quite chio w/ nice figure. She said no ST, but I was able to massage her neck n kissed her lips, in front of my lao po TC, hehehe. I need to find time to ST her.
You got a singer? High friction cost…but good luck!
BTW, I didn’t receive ur MMS.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Hmmmmmmmmmm, damn familiar hehehehe
Hello Mr. Chairman,
Hahaha, are there any singers u dun know?
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Hahaha… I won’t be surprised bro DYBJ… there may be lots of fishes in the pond but the better ones are few and far between… she’s from 广西, 23-turning-24-next week… is she your 菜? I’m still contemplating whether to go for the kill so if she is one of yours, let me know and I’ll just move on to the next target… there are so many fishes but so little time for me…
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Cfm no bro, mine is from across the road
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
you mean LP eh?
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
I plead ignorance totally ignorant heheheeh
Many PRC pussies do look alike. Mr. chairman has encyclopedic knowledge of singers in SG, hehehe.
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Good morning!
Went to DC HH yesterday to celebrate mummy D’s birthday. I was surprised that there were so many gals n not that many customers. There were 7 bros/frens who joined me for the fun. Quite a young crowd as 4 bros/frens were in their 20s. I got 2 gals to butterfly plus I had my other lao po XW w/ me. TC called me at 8PM as her frens saw me there. So what? I’m going to do SF w/ XW n TC, finally. I like one of the new gals. She is a 20 yo student from Fujian. Very sexy n youthful body. Must also find time to up her.
My young former sidekick asked me: Why r all ur gals so obedient to u? My answer: I pay them well n I fxxk them well. The real secret is my improved self mastery.
At this time I like to recommend a great e-book: David X’s Be Relentless.
I’ll quote some of his writings from time to time to whet ur appetite:
I lived in Texas for two years and when I came back to Montreal I called up this woman that I used to go out with. And she was extremely pissed off at me for just getting up and leaving without telling her goodbye. I said, “You were the first one I called. I’m looking at my list and you came in with the highest rating. Now is there a chance for me to come over or not? I’m too horny to argue.” She said, “Come over.” So I went over and fucked her.
After I finished, she sqwaked for another two hours. I let her complain (who cares what they say) while I went to sleep. In the morning she made me breakfast and sqwaked for another two hours. Finally I asked, “How long do I have to take your complaining for? How much sqwaking is two years in Texas worth?” And she said, “I’m almost done.” How much is two years in Texas worth? Yes I didn’t call. Yeah, I fucked tons of other women. No, I wasn’t thinking about you. Yeah yeah yeah. You’re so right honey!
Ok, fine, she’s right. I’m a terrible man. But they like bad boys. Remember that Seinfeld episode when George was the bad boy? He decided to do the complete opposite of what he had always done, and all of a sudden he had more women than ever. It’s a fact that women like bad boys.
Now, every once in a while, and especially as you learn to develop this attitude, a woman might tell you that she loves you. And if you say, “I love you too”, then you’re fucked! You might as well chop off your dick and hand it to her….. Remember: He who loves least controls the relationship. I have only said, “I love you” to two women in my life. I married them both. I tell them, “I’ll tell you that I love you when I’m putting a ring on your finger.”
When you set a precedence you have to stick to your guns. If you tell her no, then later on for whatever reason you allow her, she will view you as weak. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Stop making excuses and stop making exceptions. When you set a precedence you can’t go back. One of the big diseases that happens to men that are in a relationship is laziness.
You have to do what YOU want relentlessly. You cannot give in ever. They want the strength and they will love you for it. You always have to be on top of the situation. What happens to most guys is that once they fuck her,
they doze off. They get lazy.
Your comments?
I want to be relentless…
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Bro WB,
No no no, the honor and pleasure is all mine…Actually I did receive your SMS reply telling me that you will be at TAM HH that very same day but…it was only when I was home that night that I saw your message.
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Yes, I was too busy once I got the gal to sit with me. When I entered the room at 6:30pm, I didn’t leave the room until almost 10pm! Not even to go to the toilet, which was just beside our room! The gal, KX, also never leave the room until we left. She can really sing, Chinese songs, Hokkien songs, Cantonese songs but she is not a singer. Just to clarify – she got here on a 6-months singer pass from another outlet which, according to her, she has never been to, and never required to… she just goes to work at Havelock Road… Btw, I email you the pic yesterday… wonder if you received it.
I’d love to meet luminaries like Bro DYBJ and the rest, and I know their reputation and vast experience and I try to find time to read the HFJ thread. I’m not into hanging flowers and as you know me, I’m a miser and will not incur high friction cost…The only reason I can think of for people to throw big money in HFJs is to launder money – I was told by a celebrity I bonked recently…
Hi Bro FA,
Ah, KX is very nice. Just up her.
Abt the celebrity u mentioned, is she my type? Is she under 25, over 165 w/ proportionate body, slim arms, long straight legs, perky ass n at least natural B boobs? If so, I’m interested.
BTW, you’re young, tall n handsome. If I had half ur good looks, I won’t be able to keep SYTs from stalking me, hahaha.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
chenzong
Bingo! And one of my friends actually sat next to an illegal money lender, at a hfj!
Hi bro chenzong,
About 2/3 of big spenders at KTVs/HFJs r those in the cash business.I hv more to say abt this.
Cheers!
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Good morning!
I hv noticed that many of my regular kakis/bros/frens r not spending as much n r shunning more expensive joints. Some bros/frens hv definitely fallen on hard times, due to business failures, stock declines, gambling losses, etc.
Of the new bros who hv joined my outings recently, a few r well heeled. One young man appears to be from a rich family, even though he is quite frugal. I like him very much as he understands that we must minimize the friction cost of living n all business transactions.
Although the bookies n ah longs r big spenders at KTVs/HFJs n appear to be flushed w/ cash. They can never be truly rich.
Why?
Four reasons. Firstly, they squander their money. Secondly, it’s difficult for them to invest n grow their money legally. Thirdly, they lack the knowledge , experience n education to invest successfully. Fourthly, the risks of running an illegal business r real. Their assets could be seized n they could spend time at Changi, hahaha.
As men we should go after what we want, be it money, status, fame, power, good health, love, peace, happiness, pussies…
BE RELENTLESS.
At this time, I like to share some pearls from David X’s Be Relentless:
TWO RULES, NOT TWO HUNDRED
I’m giving you two rules. Not two-hundred. TWO.
Who cares what she thinks, and you are the most important person in the relationship.
And at first, they sound like two very stupid rules. But everytime you hear them, they start to make more and more sense to you. If you don’t care what she thinks, then your fears are gone. And if you truly believe that you are the most important person in the relationship, then you start to take responsibility for your own life. It forces you to be strong, decisive, honest and congruent. What you decide is up to you. I’m not telling you to be me, I’m telling you to be you.
You’re not being rude to her by not caring what she says. There’s a façade of nonsense that people put out, and you don’t know if they’re playing games or fucking with you. These two rules are your shield from all that shit. These rules really have a way of cutting through all the crap.
Men are free until they get married, and women are free when they get married. Once I was dating this girl who said, “Either we have to get married, or I won’t sleep with you anymore.” And I felt bad. Here was this woman telling me that she loves me, that she wants to spend the rest of her life with me. She wanted all of me, and if I couldn’t give that to her, then she would leave me forever. A lot of guys actually got stuck that way. They fell for that line. But what was this woman really saying to me? She was really saying, “Do what I say, puppy! Marry me so that I can use sex to control you for the rest of your life.” Now, if you had a harem of 5 or 6 women, and a woman said that to you, what would you say? “Goodbye!”
A lot of guys are afraid to look at the women that attract them. They’re afraid she might get upset. If I’m watching a porno movie, if I feel like it, I might start jerking off. Do I care what the TV thinks? I don’t care what anybody thinks. Period. When I say ‘who cares’, I live it. If she can’t handle me looking at her, what the fuck do I want her for?
Tell me to fuck off anytime. Try me. I don’t care. If you don’t care, you can just let go and have a good time. What do I have to lose if they get ‘offended’? I can only gain. When you’re trying to pick up a chick, no matter what you do, you can ONLY GAIN. You can’t have less than zero. If you care what they think of you, then you can’t go further. And if you can’t be honest and straightforward about what you want, you can’t succeed with women. This whole book is just a way of explaining the two rules. It always comes back to the two basic rules. If you can integrate those two rules into your life, it frees you from Fear Prison.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Hi Bro WB,
Yes, KX is quite cute. If I up her now, no difference from ST. Prefer to KC her a little first……………….
I know the type you want bro WB but unfortunately, the celeb is not your type. She is not exactly my type either, but unlike you, I am not a choosey eater, hahaha……………………….. Well, if I have achieved Shifu WB’s Self Mastery, nothing is impossible anymore, right? Hahaha!
Bro, if like you said, I am twice as handsome as you, explain why no gals stalk me? Hahaha. Maybe I haven’t achieved self mastery yet, hahaha.
Hi Bro FA,
You know I’m no sifu, just a student who is RELENTLESS…
Yes, if u hv formidable self mastery, ur success would be formidable.
No, I said if I had half ur good looks, meaning I dun even hv half ur good looks.
If u improve ur self mastery, chio gals will be stalking u. I need 10X ur self mastery to do that bcos I’m a lao chi ko pek., hahaha.
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Hi Bro chenzong,
Well, I haven’t been to a HFJ except the main hall at LV (and other KTVs)… to me……….. Bad times are ahead of us, so if want to chiong, must chiong wisely…
I couldn’t agree w/ u more.
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Not all are from the illegal biz trade la
There are some from perfectly legit backgrounds and perfectly legit businesses.
But then again, LV is known for having a “SPECIAL” kinda clientele base unlike across the road at 5th floor hehe
I figure abt 1/3 of big senders r in legit business.
Cheers!
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Good morning!
Bro seabeng related the story of a singer at a HFJ who was playing hard to get n later he found out she was a $150 a shot FL (Hang Flower Joints).
I replied to his post bcos my story is the reverse. I met a SYT FL in August 2008 n later found out that she was a real singer at a HFJ, hahaha.
My post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by
seabeng
Bros, sometimes I dont know why we are all so silly and go and hang flowers for one aim and that is to screw the singer. Surely we are not there for their singings. Sometimes we hang between 100 to 200 or maybe more for a non regular singer and yet this girl will still put up a show as though she has gold below. But today I found out and has proven that all that glitters are not gold.
On Monday a friend gave me a contact to say that this girl a singer and is going home next month (6 months due) and dont mind doing something extra so that she could bring home more money. She will only entertain close and regulars friends and strictly on a hush hush. I told my friend, if she is on a hush hush for regulars where I dont even know her will she entertain?
I told a chance anyway so I called this afternoon and she answered. As I was talking to her I find that her voice was somewhat familar anyway I take it as coincidence.
I arranged to fetch her at 4pm at her place of stay. All this while I find it somewhat funny because beside the voice is familar but the place is also familar. Nevertheless I made my way there since everything has been arranged and given her my car number.
I waited at the roadside near the landmark she gave and waited for about 15 mins maybe more. I was beginning to have second thoughts when suddenly someone open the door coming from the back and as she was about to step in, both of us were spell bound for a few seconds. She could only utter eh eh eh and finally she said…..shi ni ah!!! I told her to come in the car. I could not drive and have never felt to be in a situations like this before.
She was from a joint that I went a couple of times and cant say I like that place. She had sat with me before though not the usual singer that used to sit with me and each and every time I was there her token flowers from me were usually $100 for her ppc. I remember once another friend of mine tried dating her for supper and she flately refused with some kind of excuses that make herself upper class not going supper with first timer. By the way, I dont drink when I am out for a drink and had never sent her back.
Here, for less than 150 I got to screw her. Since she knew why we are meeting up and she’s aware that I know about her extra, we went on to have our fun. I also wonder how long has she been into this?
In order not to make things looks so emmm how shall I put it……I went down to the joint tonight and hang her another 100. The beautiful thing is that she has quite a good number of regulars and supporters and my friend who gave me her contact did not know that I had been to that joint before. And if I remember right for her show, she gross about 17k in July. Not that bad for a mid size joint.
The story behind is still……..not all that glitters are gold so I now wonder why spent so much where at the end of the day is still that lump of hairy meat below. Anyway she was really hairy below but was very tight.
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Hi bro seabeng,
Very illuminating post…hahaha.
I like to add my 2 cents.
In August of 2008, before I ever set foot in a KTV or HFJ, I got ctc of a PRC FL from a bro. The whore LX was a 20 yo SYT, tall (169), fair n quite chio, A very good fxxk for a princely sum of only $120, hahaha. The damage was later reduced to $80. I upped her quite a few times. Friction cost for me: Zero.
A couple of wks later, she confided that she was a real singer at a HFJ n that she was going to hv a show in 2 days. She wanted me come to show support. A SBF bro knew the joint n told me abt a taller(173) n prettier singer there n hinted that I could fxxk her, so I called a few experienced frens to go along.
LX was very pleased to see me n my frens. The taller n supposedly prettier gal wasn’t that pretty n was definitely older. In fact, among the 14-15 or so singers whom I saw taht nite, LX was the only one I wanted to fxxk in that joint. I hung $100 for LX n $100 for the taller gal bcos she came to sit w/ me ( I was a hapless “nice guy” then; nowadays I’ll give zero unless I like to fxxk the gal). My frens also hung $100 for both gals n for a few others. They wanted to give me “face.”
BTW, clients who met LX at her HFJ would end up paying 5 to 10X for ST.
A few days later, the same grp of frens brought me to a KTV, my virgin visit to one, where I met my 1st BAO-ee n my current favourite lao po XW. That is another story.
LX completed her 6-month contract n returned to PRC. In May of 2009, LX called me one day n said that she had returned on a TAM singer permit n wanted to meet up. She wanted $500 for ST!! I told her $200, take it or leave it. She said no n hung up the phone. Two wks later she called n said OK, hehehe. The next month, June 2009, in my 1st ever visit to TAM, I saw her there n she was one of my 3 butterflies…
The other day a tall singer called n asked me to go to her joint. She was intro by my GF YB (who returned to Fujian last wk). This gal is supposed to be 172 but is at least 174. She looks fine n has long slender arms, nice legs n butt, but her breasts look like A/B only. Nowadays I want gals w/ at least a full B Boobs which must be beautifully shaped. Why would I ever go to her joint? Next!
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
花场Escapefrom
Dear Bro, you have actually managed to set a target for me personally and all other newbies in this thread.
With your one single post, you have managed to collapse the market for singer pussy…
I personally take so much inspiration and enlightenment from your post, that i am going to offer the next few singers only $150 for a short time or quick lunch!
Hi bro,
Outrageous, isn’t?
Same gal, same country, different times, different locations, vastly different prices.
Same gal, same country, same time, different locations n vastly different prices.
And worst of all, same gal, same country, same time, same location, but vastly different prices to different clients.
I therefore like get a feel of the big picture n regularly take a look at the quality n potential damage of meat/pussies at different joints at different times, including KTVs/HFJs/FLs/legal GL gals, escort service, etc. in SG n overseas, to hunt for n fxxk my type of gals at minimal cost.
Be Relentless. Leave no stone unturned.
Cheers!
Bro WB
I hv finished reading David X’s Be Relentless.
Here is more of his wisdom:
“BUT SHE’S SO…”
You can’t treat a hot one like she’s a hot one, and you can’t treat her like you’re not trying to treat her like she’s a hot one and maybe she knows that you know. Read that again, just to make sure it sinks in. Because if you do that you’re ignoring her because she’s hot. Treat them all the same, no matter what they look like. And remember that while you think she’s hot, I may think she’s ugly.
What’s the difference in how you treat a ten versus a one? Depends on how horny you are. Next question. How do you treat an 8 versus a five? Depends. Am I horny? What about young versus old? Treat them all the same. Young to me is probably old to you. I’m 53 years old.
You have to stop thinking about them and instead think of you. After all, you are the most important person in the relationship. “But she is just so…” Forget it. The whole orientation of seduction psychology is wrong, by the way. It just trains you to be over-analytical and causes you to forget the most important person in the relationship, you. You can’t be thinking for her. Let her do that. Think for you. Instead of thinking, ”What does she want?” think about what you want and only you. Do it honestly and completely. What will happen is it will teach you something more valuable than money and more valuable than technique. It will teach you honesty.
CONTROL
Women are constantly testing us. I really believe that. Children test you to see how far they can go, and women are the same. Being with children can teach you a lot about how you should be with a woman. As soon as you give in, you lose. You’ve failed the test. Any psychiatrist will tell you that. Because if you’re willing to give in now, then you’ve just demonstrated that you’ll also give in later. Once you’ve set an example of something, it’s too late. If you give in now you’re making your life more difficult later on. I’m tough with kids, but they love me. My sons friends love me, I’m like the Pied Piper.
Why? Because the rules aren’t hard to follow when I live by them also.
You need to be in control but not controlling.
When I was still dating, sometimes women would start to have a hissy fit, saying things like, “It’s always your way!” and I would say, “I’m glad you remember the rules.” It’s my direction in life and I don’t care what they say. I know what I want in my life, and I know myself better than they do. My life is not a democracy.
YOU’VE BEEN CONDITIONED TO BE A PUSSY
My mother told me that I have to ask for everything politely. “Can I please fuck you tonight?” Your mommy meant well, but try to forget her advice, because she left out the important stuff. Your mommy didn’t tell you, “Treat a lady like a whore and treat a whore like a lady.”
Your mommy forgot to mention, “Who cares what they think.” She never told you that the most important person in the relationship is you. And that’s because it’s your life. Women don’t know what’s good for you, your mom doesn’t know what’s good for you, and I don’t know what’s good for you.
I’m not saying that your mother did anything wrong. You’re probably a very nice person. But you’re not nice to yourself, you’re nice to other people. You’ve been conditioned to be a pussy. “Say please.” “Be nice.” “Share your toys.” “Say thank you for that cookie.”
But in this world today, we’re finding out that being nice to certain people is dangerous. When you go out to meet women, you’re on dangerous grounds. Who knows what these women are like. Some of them have AIDS, some of them are prostitutes, coke whores, manipulative cunts, thieves, murderers, liars, the list of fucked up women goes on and on. I’ve had women rip me off while I was taking a piss. They went into my wallet and took my money. And they’ll cheat on you given half the chance.
Do you honestly believe that your girlfriend wouldn’t fuck George Clooney behind your back? What if Brad Pitt showed up in her life? Would she stick around for you? You’ve got to be nice to you first."
Cheers n hv a great day!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
战鸟大哥，别再赞小弟了，这样下去，总有一天我会被你KCed的… 哈哈哈…
大帅哥FA,
我只是有一说一。。。你放心，我是110%的异性恋者，呵呵呵。。。
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Originally Posted by
fallen.angel
Some updates on KX, my new target…
KX showed me a pic she took, which I have uploaded as my new avatar……
It was KX’s birthday yesterday and I treated her lunch. I think I have KCed her (under 1 week) when she messaged me afterwards………………
But I think I will not up her.
During lunch, she showed me the scar……………..
Sigh, I’m battle-harden and knows how to and so used to dealing with similarly battle-harden, manipulative, calculative veteran PRC KTV mms but KX is freaking me out! Damn!
What should I do, fellow old birds and shifus?? I don’t want to be responsible for ending someone’s life.
Hi Bro FA,
Congrats to u if u hv KC-ed her in one wk。
请不要见怪，我有一说一, to be blunt, I’m not sure who is getting KC-ed here. I believe you’re enamored w/ her…
Be very cautious, bro.
Pls read the comments n advice by Mr.Chairman below.
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DO_YOU_BJ
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Its clear your liking and emotions for this gal has got the better of you. Time to move a step back & not be too impressed wif words but actions. Only a week bro….only a week!
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Hi Mr. Chairman,
Timeless advice. It behooves me to remember those words.
You sound like Dr. Marius Panzarella, the RS guru n expert on female psychology…I guess great minds think alike, hehehe.
The way I see it, in KC-ing n BY-ing game n in any RS, it doesn’t matter how much I like the gal, it’s how much she likes me that counts.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
Jackal Junior
Okay so I’m a completely new noob to this and will appreciate hearing from those who are experienced in this and have gone down this road before…
What are your views and advice on the best way of broaching the issue or opening negotiations with the girl?
There is this Shenyang girl in TAM that I sat in one of the recent outings…………Of course she claims she only “sits” and does not go for ST, has never gone out/slept with customers before and has even rejected previous offers of exclusivity ie. baoing by other men……..I have gone out with her once after that, just for drinks and nothing else. Thing is, I have dropped many hints and she has flat out not picked up on them. I am planning to raise it directly with her the next time; in fact I intend to bluntly ask her to just spend the nite with me, dinner, drinks and sleepover in my hotel room. If she says okay, I can assess her performance and decide whether to take it further. But if she says no, then I am just going to forget it, albeit with a tinge of regret.
What do you seniors think of this approach?
Hi bro JJ,
I’m no expert on this matter. I hope Mr. Chairman will give u the advice u need…
IMHO, there r many possibilities/reasons why she is behaving the way she is n every gal is different. She may actually do ST for selected clients or she may already hv a BAO-er/patron/BF/husband/lover…
Hv u established good rapport w/ her? Hv u been physical w/ her? Hv u french kissed her yet? If u hv, she is very likely to say YES to ur approach, regardless of her current situation.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Never believe what u hear or see in the nite scene…….
Like this case, all i can say is, still water runs deep bro
Cheers
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Originally Posted by
DO_YOU_BJ
Bro WB, as usual, tks for the compliments.
Me no expert, me just a newbie noob sharing my novice ideas nia…….
Hi Mr. Chairman,
I also admire ur humility…
Hv a great day!
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Good morning!
I wrote the following post under “TAM”.
<<<I was zapped by a bro n I like to thank him cuz he woke me up in many ways…
I learn a lot more from my failures than from my successes. And, ironically, I also learn a lot from zappers who leave detailed comments n criticisms. This happens to be an exceptionally beneficial one.
Tian An Men KTV 30-09-2011 09:21 AM You never learn and still want to ask people to waste unnecessary money on such high end KTV with no value at all you will end up getting nothing and to leave this world poor
My reply to Mr. zapper:
Believe it or not, I hv learned a lot in the last 2 -3 yrs, abt gals of the nite scene, both in SG n PRC, abt ST-ing n BY-ing them, abt how to minimize the friction cost, abt RS n female psychology, abt COS, etc.
Yes, I still want to ask my frens n bros to share the expenses cuz that would reduce my friction cost of finding new pussies of my type. See my thread “picking up KTV gals outside KTVs” in which there r many discussions on how to reduce friction cost n the game of ST-ing n BY-ing gals, etc.
Waste money n no value at all? It often happens, that is life; get over it. Although there r always many noteworthy exceptions, I hv found more chio n tall gals of my type at high end joints than low end joints.
End up getting nothing? Well, I hv ST-ed n BY-ed many, many SYTs of my type at TAM complex n PC complex in the last 2 1/2 yrs. However, It’s getting harder n harder to find my type of gals as they get BY-ed in China. Time to import them to SG or move to PRC.
The zapper is spot on in saying “you (meaning I) will end up getting NOTHING” in that in the end,
We come to this world with nothing,
we leave this world with nothing!
It applies to all of us, to every human being…Hahaha.
Me leaving this world poor? Actually, that would be wonderful, thank u! It would be a nightmare for me if I leave this world rich.
Why?
I’m reminded of the 6 principles of life:
Most importantly, money is not mine until I spend it. I want to leave this world poor, meaning that I’ll hv spent all my money n hv no regrets, hahaha.
In the last 2 1/2 yrs I hv only spent a small fraction of my passive income in BY-ing SYTs of my type. Thank u, Mr. Zapper, I must n will spend a lot more so that I’ll leave this world poor, hehehe.
It was my dumb luck that I made some key investments several decades ago. Passive income from those initial small investments now give me enuff money to live quite well n to BY these young pussies.
TAM or LV HH is not expensive if we only open one btle of Martell n there r 5-6 bros. I dun drink n the others can hv my share. It’s only abt $60-80 per pax not including tip for gals.
Why go to low end joints?
Cheers!
Bro WB>>>
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Originally Posted by
AustinPowers
You are very smart! Hard liquor is very bad for health including sexual health. Wine has some nutritional value but hard liquor like Martell none at all. Avoid alcohol and tobacco if u want to stay strong and virile!
You are The Man, WB! I hope to be as strong as u when I reach your age.
Hi bro AP,
Ths for ur health advice. I neither smoke nor drink.
Cheers!
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Good afternoon!
Some random musings on the subject of health…
Like they say, “If you have health you have hope, if you have hope you have everything.”
I hv been obsessed w/ healthy living since I was a teenager.
In the last 5-6 months, I hv tried to emulate ONLY the positive aspects of the lifestyle of hunter-gatherers. I hv continued to take nutritional n herbal supplements, which r totally unavailable to our ancient forebears.
The results r astonishing. My libido n virility r now as strong as when I was 20. I can now fxxk everyday n, at least some days, 2-3 times a day. My 2 young lao po r more exhausted after a prolonged session than I’m.
Let me digress.
IMHO, to completely satisfy a woman sexually, u need to fxxk her for at least 10 min. Of course u need to engage in foreplay n prime her pump by giving her multiple orgasms w/ ur fingers n/or tongue 1st. Then u must insert ur didi into her meimei n rock her for at least 10 min, preferably 20 or longer. It feels different, more satisfying n more complete, my 2 lao po both told me that. They never seem to get enuff w/ vaginal intercourse. It is associated w/ stronger n more prolonged oxytocin surge n more pleasure n more bonding, hehehe.
The problem is that many men can’t last 10 min n they r clueless.
Here is proof ( taken from Revolutionary Sex written by an Ang Moh).
“It would be easy to just learn some techniques for
keeping your erection harder for a longer time (in
the “You” section of the book), and stop there, or
read a technique for stimulating her clitoris that will
drive her wild (in the “Her” section of the book, and
stop there… but those are the least important
aspects of what makes a great lover.
That stuff is just the mechanics. And women
don’t go crazy for even the best mechanical lovers
They go crazy for passion, intimacy, and a man
that can listen to their body and understand what it
is saying to them.
And the key to becoming that kind of lover is
difficult for me to communicate to you, man to man.
I believe to understand it properly you will have to
read through to the end.
Let me begin by telling you a little story…
A few years ago I was in bed with a woman for
the first time, giving her what I thought was the time
of her life. Judging from the noises she was making,
I was driving her crazy with pleasure… which was my
intention because I really liked her and could see her
being part of my life for a while, and the first time
with a new girlfriend is always a bit special.
Then something strange happened. About ten
minutes into the actual intercourse part of the sex,
she put her hands on my chest and asked me to
stop, and then, almost tearfully, she asked me if she
was doing something wrong.
To say the least, I was confused!
Then she told me that she was having the best
sex of her life… but that she couldn’t understand why
I hadn’t come yet…
she had never been with a man
who had lasted over ten minutes before
… and
because I was so PASSIONATELY into what I was
doing, she was sure that I was about to come… and
then didn’t.
So she was worried that I was trying hard to
come… but couldn’t get there because she was doing something wrong or because I wasn’t attracted to
her enough.
Here’s another little detail: This woman was no
virgin, and no inexperienced teenager. She was over
30 and had plenty of boyfriends in her past, both
long-term and short-lived relationships over the
years.
It was then that I began to realize that the things
that I was doing in bed that I thought were
ordinary… were not.
But more than that, I realized that it was not hard
to be an amazing lover… because most other men,
truly, are completely clueless when it comes to
giving sexual pleasure to a woman.
When I realized why she had stopped me, I
stroked the hair from her face, gently, and reassured
her as honestly and sweetly as I could that she was
doing nothing wrong and that I found her very
attractive… because I could see that she really was
feeling insecure and worried.
Then I gave her an evil grin and told her to fasten
her seatbelt, because she was about to have a
seriously wild ride.
Although she had brought herself to orgasm
before with a vibrator, that night was the first time
that she had ever had an orgasm with a man.
After this experience, I began to seriously
consider writing a book… and so I began to more
actively try to figure out what I was doing differently from other men, and what MORE I could do to
improve my sexual relationships with women.
For what it’s worth, I was not born with any
special skills except for one: I am an exceptionally
good listener and communicator.
The women that I have dated over the years felt
extremely comfortable in talking to me about their
sexual needs.
And I listened.
And I learned.
And I have given many, many women their first
orgasm since then………………………………………. ……..”
Cheers n hv a great day!!
Bro WB
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blacktadpole
Hi Bro.Warbird, Thanks for the great lessons and notes that you gathered through your years of experience. Take Care and keep up the good work!!!
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Originally Posted by
singlad
Hi Bro Warbird,
You always amaze me with your coolness and life’s philosophy.
Hi bros blacktadpole n singlad,
Ths for ur encouragement.
I’m a bit unconventional in my approach to life, sexual fulfillment n happiness, hehehe.
Cheers!
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Good afternoon!
In the last 3 yrs, one gal I hv missed the most is XX. She was a 19 yo SYT who had agreed to BY by me while I was in Gotham City. Unfortunately, she returned to PRC before I could consummate the deal.
I miss XX so much cuz like all humans, I tend to want what I can’t have. That could also explain why I still like XW cuz it took me 8 1/2 months of chasing to bed her. Yes, she has become my best lao po n we r still together. She goes into COS only if I use a specific clitoral method, followed by certain positions, hehehe.
I like to quote Dr. MP on some behaviour rules for attraction:
Behavior Rule #1: People Want What They Can’t Have
Have you noticed how the less available someone is, the more we’ll want them? And the more needy someone is, the less we’ll like them? That’s why it’s ALWAYS important to remain a challenge when it comes to the dating game.
If we’re too easy, we’re going to die lonely.
So…we know that being a challenge can cause doubt, which is an important part of the equation for building passion. But what about the other variable, desire?
Desire comes from our subconscious mind. For example, we hope we will get a good job because we WANT a good job. Desire is therefore based on our emotions.
It’s like buying a new Porsche. When we buy a new Porsche, are we buying a new Porsche because of its powerful engine or nice gear? Ha. That’s what you tell your parents. But deep inside, you know you bought it because you wanted to buy it – and you’re now only justifying your feelings by coming up with logical reasons to “backup” your decision.
Behavior Rule #2: People Make Conscious Decisions Based on Subconscious Feelings
A good thing to remember is that love is based on feelings, not logic. We don’t “choose” to love at a conscious level. We only “feel” we’re “falling in love”.
In short, in doesn’t matter how logical it may seem that a woman “should” be in love with you. If a girl does not feel attracted to you, than no amount of convincing her that you’re the “right” one will do.
This is also why you can’t really ask girls to “explain” why they are in love with a certain man. The things they say…like “he’s funny” or “he’s a nice guy” are only EXCUSES they’ve come up with to explain the decisions they’ve made based on their feelings.
This is exactly why if you would like to be good with the ladies, you should attack their FEELINGS instead of their logic. We will learn to do this with the “tease to please” and “flirt for skirt” methods later in the course.
Cheers!
Bro WB