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Originally Posted by
MoralEpitome
LOL…one man’s meant is another man’s poison la…like that time I like 118 so much but bro LDH thinks she’s very chor lor and totally don’t like her…in fact this 118 is the only girl I ever had feelings for…and while I go for girls who do not so easily agree to ST…usually within 2 weeks and under $800 will get to screw them already…i actually spent about 5 times that on 118 and only got to touch her breasts…hahahaha…..what a loser!….although she said she felt abit paiseh I support her and she did not agree to let me fuck…
No, this is not a simple case of one man’s meat…what is strange is that my fren didn’t even want the gal to sit w/ him initially when he 1st saw her at a “mummy-less” KTV in DC complex. He told her to get lost but she threw herself on him! He has not been the same person ever since. She must hv cast a spell on him n he is trapped!
Now he can’t sleep n can’t work. He can’t get her off his mind for more than 5 minutes while awake. He dreams abt her. He used to despise PRC gals…his command of Mandarin is quite limited as well. If she doesn’t pick up his calls or return his text msg, he is in anguish. He doesn’t even know why he is in love w/ her. He is like a zombie. He has offered a large amt of money (much more than all the money I hv spent to BY 17-18 gals in the last 15 months) to beg her to quit working n she refused! I guess she wants a lot more than that. To me she is an ugly MILF whore whom I wont fxk even if she pays me. He confided w/ me that he wants a long-term RS w/ her n would love to marry her if only she would accept him! Is he mad or what??
My conclusion: He kena gong tao. Any idea how he could be saved?
I’m just glad that this has not happened to me. What can I do to prevent ever getting “gong tao-ed” ?
Introspect, I might hv got a bit of gong tao from KK. Fortunately, she fell in love w/ a 20 yo fellow student n let me off the hook. I got lucky. There is this tall Kangxi gal I hv to approach w/ caution as gong tao is a common practice in that part of China.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
woody17
It’s indeed odd that a veteran in nite-clubbing would fall for an ordinary looking MM and I guessed the only logical explanation was what you said - a spell had been cast on this friend of yours. So is this MM from Kunming where Chinese voodoo is still practiced there?
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Originally Posted by
MoralEpitome
Yeah…this type of thing very strange one…simply can’t be explained…btw I ever crashed my car while thinking of a WL because I was just so distracted by her…hmmm….I also got one fren pay money for this mlif whom I would not even touch with a 5 foot pole…he pay money but she refuse to zuo tai with him….she wants all his money under the table and let her earn more…crazy man………….scary!
Hi bros woody n ME,
My fren is NOT a veteran of KTV scene. He is a player, a scion of a well-heeled family in Malaysia/S’pore, who only goes after local n Ang Mo gals. He has limited command of Mandarin. He has not fallen in love for over 20 yrs!
I believe his MM is from Sichuan. Some PRC gals from the Southwest China know how to 施情蛊 or gong tao. My fren is trying hard to forget her. He is doing a lot of praying n meditation…
Very scary…my fren rejected her for butterfly initially.
The scientific explanation is that the gal has triggered some neuro mechanisms in his primitive brain, certain attraction button formed during his early childhood, in his subconscious mind…n he falls deeply for her. Perhaps hypnosis could reveal the underlying reason.
IMHO, the best defense against getting KC-ed is to focus on the gal’s negatives. Use NLP/meditation/psycanics to magnify them n let them imprint deeply in ur subconscious mind…the problem is that, if u carry this too far, u may never want to fxk her again, hehehe.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
woody17
天上人间 and a few other major KTVs in Beijing have been forced to be closed for 6 months by the Beijing GA (with a new GA Head assuming the position) and mamasans have to continue their business by introducing MMs to customers in genuine KTVs (i.e. those without hostesses). I had 天上人间 girlfriend asking me to find similar job in HK. It’s now back to normal and there is really no need for any 天上人间 MM to come to Singapore to earn a living. If she is of upscale quality, she will probably earn ten times of what she can earn in S’pore. A lot of 天上人间 MM drive to work in Porsche, BMW and MB
Hi bro woody,
Ths for the info. Recently I was intro to a gal who just came to SIN on social pass, who had worked at 天上人间(see my previous posts) 3x a wk until recently. She was classy n a looker, but too old (27-28) n a bit too tall (174 w/o shoes) for me. I rejected her for a cute 20 yo Fujian gal I picked up outside a lift, hehehe.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
MoralEpitome
Yes Sichuan and ChongQing girls seem very good at this! lol….but they also often the easiest girls to ST….what about ZheJiang? My latest target from ZheJiang….and I am already full of evil thoughts on how to tackle her…but I will be cool about it and be ready to drop her when things don’t go the way I want it to…
You’re safe bro. Gals from Zhejiang r not known for their gong tao, haha.
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Good morning!
I think some bros/frens r paying too much for exclusivity, GFE n companionship, etc. I may be in the same camp n need to reevaluate my strategies n objectives.
Although part-time BY-ing is 40-50% less expensive, exclusivity is not ensured n much more difficult to enforce. Even full-time BY-ing is not 100%. Then again, no one can be sure that he or she will be alive tmr. Life is so unpredictable…
I currently hv two full-time Bao-ees, aged 20 n 23 (will be 24 soon). They exist just to wait for me to show up n make love to them or take them out for dinner. They never say NO, otherwise they r history. It’s a good feeling bcos u know how it is, even my OC n ur OC may say NO, from time to time. Big auntie has come? NP, she can still do BBBJ. Or I can go to the other pussy.
The negative is that the damage is twice as high (like maintaining 2 separate households). Also it’s physically very taxing n exhaustive for an ah pek like me. I hv had difficulties satisfying both of them sexually.
But all good thing must come to an end as I’ll be leaving for Gotham soon. I really need to rest n recuperate. One gal asks: 你回去了我怎么办？凉拌，你回去上班吧。And so one gal will return to work n the other back to China, hehehe.
Pls share ur BY-ing experiences n comments w/ us.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
roamersg
Bro WB and others: how do you handle room arrangements with your BYs? I have usually just done ST hotels for quickies and regular ones for o/n or longer romps…………………….
Do you rent a flat just for your BY? Suggestions as to how to find fitted flats at reasonable costs for month-by-month? What range of costs in your experience? Lastly, can this all be done using BY’s passport, as I don’t want her to see my IC as I always keep my real name secret?…………………..
Hi bro roamersg,
Renting a master bedroom or a 1-bd-rm flat for a BAO-ee is a great idea. Rental for a master brm ranges from 1k to 2k n a 1-bd-rm flat from 1k to 3.5k n up depending on location, etc. May require 6 to 12 month-lease plus agent’s commission (usually half month’s rental). You could use the gal’s passport to sign up. Month-to month rental is very hard to find.
BY-ing is incomplete n unsatisfactory until u n ur gal hv ur own private place to spend time n make love. It’s much easier for the gal to get KC-ed n addicted to u (at ur own risk). The flip side is that u may get KC-ed too!
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Originally Posted by
jf66312
hi bros,
just saw some bros post reagarding gong tao…
especially Sichuan/ChongQing gals..
is it true?
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usual - as in i only go look for her when my little bro needs to be sextisfied as my wife currently pregnant thus i cant do anything…
There is gong tao. Or predestined affinity??
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Originally Posted by
besafe
简谈降头
http://www.daojiaofuzhuang.com/ItemV...80&columnid=51
Thank you!
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Originally Posted by
MoralEpitome
You can easily rent a room for less than one k for her a month but i think this defeats the purpose of privacy and don’t see the problem of using passports can i have rented out to foreigners before…if you want to rent the whole apartment….i suggest you rent a whole hdb apartment for about thousand seven a month…private will be at least ard two five a mth…of cos i also tot of buying a studio for this purpose ………………………………………….
Buying a studio is a good idea n may be a good investment.
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Originally Posted by
MoralEpitome
hmmm…..I am trying to cut down on expenses as I want to save up and invest more….so I don’t think I want to BY…but I also don’t want it to be purely transactional…so no choice have to spend abit of effort to coax the girl lor…usually I tip slightly higher than market rate and I give higher than market rate for the ST after I convince her to do it………………………………………… …….
When you r ready, try full-time BY-ing n place her in her own studio. It’s a whole different experience…
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Good morning! So good to be alive n kicking!
In investing/trading, I lose some n I win some. So what else is new?
Some bros may remember my 20 yo “niece,” who speaks the exact same dialect as my dear mom. She wants to return on student visa to continue her English education when I’ll here for my next visit. She also wants to be my full-time mistress in SIN n would like to stay in China when I’m in Gotham country. We hv reached agreement on all the terms. I’ll keep her for one yr as long as she is 100% faithful to me. She has one serious negative: She smokes, although 1 pack usually lasts a wk. She promises to quit completely…
While sending her documents to my QQ mailbox, she also visited my QQ space n saw all my “good Frens,” mostly my past n present BAO-ees. She expressed her anger n sadness…I lied to her n protested that I met but only 3 of them, all in the past, hehehe. I know she will be here nevertheless…
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
besafe
Wow…can add me ? please ?
Sorry, a bit sensitive…I hv some secrets I need to hide, hehehe.
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Originally Posted by
roamersg
Thanks Bro WB and ME for the suggestions! I had also thought of getting a “F–pad” for such things, but was too afraid laopo would come across bank paymetns or paperwork and then it’s all over. The master is a nice suggestion
Hi bro roamersg,
You need to pay cash n get the gal to sign the lease.
Cheers!
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Due to very heavy “work” schedule, I could only post infrequently for the next few wks.
Pls share ur experiences n comments generously n keep this thread going.
Ths n hv a great day!!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
woody17
Buying 1 bedroom condo is expensive these days. I just sold off my 1-bed room 800 sq.ft condo at Tanjong Rhu at S$750K earlier this year. Better rent a studio flat for your BY lady ….
Hi Bro Woody,
Yeah, either a studio flat or a master bedroom.
I heard u are the Bao King of China. Pls share some of ur experiences n wisdom w/ us.
You’re really in an enviable position as you’re right in the epicenter of all the PRC MMs, hehehe. Fortunately, we fancy different type of pussies. Mine is usually < 25, preferably much younger, n yours usually >25.
BTW, thank u for agreeing to audition some of my prospective BAO-ees in SZ. A video recording would be a great idea. Perhaps scantily clad? I owe u big time!
I hv told my agents that I prefer gals who r uni students n non-WLs n they said no problem.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
MoralEpitome
Actually no worries one…i rented out my properties before…i did not even bother to meet the tenant….just let the agent do everything…but get a trustworthy one…preferably female as all the male agents i know are lupsup and cheong ktv ones…hahaahahah….just get the girl to provide passport and WP to agent and you pass her the money for the deposit…if avoid trace you can bring in cash to the landlord’s account every month…i used to have a tenant who bank in cash to my account every month….landlord don’t care as long as they receive the money…
Ths for ur pointer.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
woody17
Dear Bro WB
Let me know if u will be visiting Beijing or Shanghai, I have network that can introduce u to college MMs starlets models for both ST and BY. Even ‘Virgin Air’ MMs are available if noticed well in advance….
Re audition in SZ, my pleasure to audition for u as I enjoy beauty parade. Do let me have a checklist of ur questions so that I could properly record the whole interview in HD video. Well if the interviewees are willing to strip and show off their hardware, so much the better….
Woody
Dear Bro Woody,
Wow! I must take up ur offer!
When I visit Beijing or SH, I’ll hv time only for ST. I could BY them n bring them to S’pore on social pass.
I prefer college student bcos I dun normally pay a premium for a gal’s status or fame. The damage should be based strictly on her youthfulness, freshness, looks, figure, submission n services. What would be the price range for a 2-month BY in SH? On top of that I should add, well what should I call it, overseas tour incentive?
Regardless of how attractive a gal may appear when scantily clad, there is an asset which is concealed yet of paramount importance, hehehe, namely the aesthetic n conditions of her pussy. I want a pretty n pink abalone, w/ a pleasant scent, n of course it must be very tight, wet n responsive. Last but not least, her attitude n services r very important.
Pls keep in touch n ths again,
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
kenneth21
hi bros, can check with you all, is it most ktv girl can be bonked with money? i recently met two at peace centre. and i wanna bonk them. but how to initiate? they are friendly to me, kinda like a friend also, got go out eat bla bla bla. so, what approach should be used? dun wanna spoil the frenship too.
Hi bro kenneth21,
Dun behave like a wuss when dealing w/ gals, especially WLs.
Do u want to get laid or stay as “frens” w/ them?
Many KTV gals dun go out for ST. But a 19 yo SH gal recently confided w/ me that ALL gals who work at KTVs can be bonked, for the right price. Some may only want to BAO-ed, haha.
Cheers!
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Good morning!
I like to share some thoughts on BY-ing PRC MMs in S"pore.
I’m back in the comfort of my own home in Gotham City. While I was in SIN I had had 2 full-time BAO-ees, n for a short time 3, in the last several months. I tried to meet n make love to them abt 3 times each per wk. In other words, I hv to fxk just abt everyday, which had proven physically too taxing n too stressful for an pek like me.
My total damage for BY-ing this yr is already running 4X that for the whole of 2009. The reason? Last yr, all my BAO-ees r part-time, meaning that they continued to work at KTVs, whereas this yr all of my gals dun work while I’m BY-ing them. There r advantages n disadvantages w/ both. I hv also paid rentals for several gals n the costs for student/WP visas for 2 of them.
Keeping full-time mistresses is very time consuming. A typical gal expects u to take her out 4-5 times a wk n to stay overnite w/ her at least occasionally. She may bug u n want u to take care of trivial stuff such as getting a mobile broadband card. One gal loves to travel n expects me to take her around Asia n even Europe!! And she will expect u to buy her some gifts. My answer is No, unless she treats me like an emperor.
If the gal remains aloof n distant, u suspect that she doesn’t like u or is eating outside, whereas if she is too sticky n wants to make love everyday it may become equally intolerable.
What happens to my last 2 gals now? I told the younger one to return to work, hehehe. She immediately went back to China for a 1-wk vacation. She is still very angry w/ me for terminating my patronage. The other one (let’s call her KX) is going back to China tmr n will be here when I return.
KX is very similar CD in ht n wt, but is much fairer n has pink nips n pink abalone n even pink asshole (in fact her asshole is so pretty that she is the 1st gal w/ whom I’m tempted to perform AR). More importantly, she has much tighter pussy than CD’s…
Separately, my niece BB may return on student visa (paid in full by me) n my agents r actively looking for pretty SYTs to be imported to SIN just for my pleasure. BTW, remember my one time heartthrob KK? She is the 19 yo gal who fell for a 20 yo PRC boy, a fellow classmate, while I was in Gotham country. They hv had a miserable n sometimes stormy RS, hehehe. There is a good chance she may want to be my mistress again. I’m not sure if I should take care of her again, even though I still hv unfinished business w/ her. I hv focused on her many negative points. I may resume the RS for a while just to make her addicted to me…
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
Dragonkeep
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Very happy to stumble onto this thread. Looks like lotsa wisdom and lobang!
I agree very much with bro Warbird’s approach quoted above. IMHO, PRC MM are essentially here to make it with their bods - some are more explicit (ala at GL), some less (singers etc). The brutal truth is that they are practically all willing to let some dude get their honey, but have different asking prices only.
The trouble seems to be the imperfect market. Some MM undersell: witness the KO solid good lookers we wag our tongues at in what some would class “low end” places or even streetwalkin at GL. Others oversell: the types that lead to threads we have on those ice-queen heartache generating types. To add to the chaos, we cheongsters have our individual learning curves ………………..
Speaking from my own hard experience, it is easy in each of our green and blur days at the beginning (no offence to those natural lady-killer types), to mistake a love affair for the $$$ transaction going on. Of course, SBF has threads about exceptions and cheongsters heading to ROM with some MM as “riding into the sunset” endings. These are few and far in between. Yet, after learning the ropes and getting the hang of the Art of Bao…………. this neon world of KTVs is a place where we should just fix your bayonet and charge at the selected target. After all, the KTV scene is one graphic example of having “many fish in the sea”. No sense losing sleep, emotion or self-esteem pining over any failed attack. Heck, the next time, just show up at the same place where the unyielding MM works and get a better one right in front of her!!
One of the first bao candidates I had (it lasted 3 years here and then in the Mainland) told me quite candidly at the start, 人是不能在KTV找到真爱 - you ain’t gonna find true love in a KTV. That gal was dead right. Us batang are mainly in this for the nooky.
Bro Dragonkeep,
You agree w/ my approach? Haha, u really make my day!
I greatly appreciate ur insightful comments on PRC MMs n their flesh trade in S’pore. You had a 3-yr RS w/ one mistress? How did u do it? Mine never lasted more than a few months. I need to pick ur brain n hope that u could be a regular contributor to this thread. I do hv many questions for u.
Although u r new to SBF, u hv tremendous experience n wisdom in cheonging n BY-ing, much more superior to my inadequate n often failed experience, as my 1st encounter w/ a PRC MM was in 2007 n my 1st visit to a KTV was 2 yrs ago. I’m still an armchair general trying to get more hands-on field experience…
The flesh trade is a most inefficient market, even less efficient than the very inefficient stock market, largely as a result of the complex factors u hv enumerated. In addition to the fact that one man’s meat is another man’s poison n the mysterious Rashomon Effect, KC n gong tao may frequently be involved which make the outcome between every patron-PRC MM encounter most unpredictable…
Let’s start w/ the lower end of the spectrum, low in damage but not necessary in looks, figure n service. Among the most beautiful PRC MMs I hv met r 4 very inexpensive whores: A 20 yo SH gal from sex141 in HKG, 2 Sichuan FLs, aged 19 n 21, at or near L8/Talma Rd in GL n a legal Cat 150 22 yo gal from SZ. Their services ranged from good to excellent…three of them accepted my offer for BY but I just couldnt go to China to complete the deal. Nowadays I hv to visit TAM complex 3-4 times just to find one gal who is mildly interesting. I prefer pretty n tall SYTs (aged 18-22) n there is a dearth of these creatures…they r fast becoming extinct.
On the high end of the spectrum r some ang pai singers/gals at some famous HFJs/KTVs. High in damage only but not in looks, figure n service. They r generally much older as well…they r women not gals. I heard from my frens n my BAO-ees that some of these women hv made over a million SGD in a relatively short time. I hv seen some ang pais n I hv to scratch my head as to what the fxk is going on?!! Must be gong tao.
But hope springs eternal. Many old n ugly PRC women (I can’t call them MMs) also want to try their luck here bcos u never know, they may meet n “gong tao” a sucker into giving 100-200k up front, before even touching them!
Lastly, sexual culture/behaviour n moral values must be very different in China. I’m an ah pek, much older than almost all my mistresses’ parents who r usually in their 40s. And most of the parents know exactly what their daughters r up to. Take the example of my niece BB whose dad is only 43…I was taken aback when he wanted to thank me personally for taking such good care of her! I also spoke w/ KX’s dad who is a chef n owns a restaurant…oh, you’re her BF from S’pore? She is out n u could call her other HP…!!
One other thing. In my personal experience, all healthy n heterosexual PRC MMs including virgins, regardless of her occupation. educational level n status here, r looking to be BAO-ed by a man. I had a 19 yo NUS Presidential Scholar who asked me to keep her! I had detailed my exploit w/ her towards the end of last yr.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
Hooters666
Bro Warbird & other likeminded bros
Many thanks for the discussions and sharing of info here. I got to blame myself for missing this fabulous thread in sbf. Guess I m hanging around FL and GL section for too long. Spent my Sunday afternoon going through as much information while listening to Tong Li CD.hehe
Well I m kind of tired by the legal and FL scene and wanna explore the dangerous game bying. Let me go through bmt first.
Thx!
HI Bro Hooters66,
HI bro,
Welcome aboard!
BY-ing is a lot more dangerous to ur emotional n financial well being. I’m still struggling to get it right after 16 months of BY-ing saga. But it’s more fun, more GFE, etc.
If the RS lasts more than a couple of months, there will be at least some KC involved, which may be one-sided or a two-way traffic. Your self control is crucial.. Never fall in love w/ a WL. If u can’t control ur heart n ego, you will be at risk…
For me, pursuing n tasting pretty pussies of my type is only a small part of BY-ing. It’s a fun game n a business operation, hehehe. Additionally, I also enjoy going to a flat n see my young mistress walking around, perhaps cooking dinner for me, completely nude or scantily clad w/ only a T-shirt n wearing nothing underneath, hehehe. After dinner n resting, we would take shower together n then would usually make love for couple of hrs….I then like to see her disappointment when I said I couldn’t stay overnite…is it worth the much higher damage? I dun really know, sometimes yes n sometimes no…
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
MoralEpitome
I am just full of admiration for Bro WB….you are an inspiration to me…and always enjoyed your excellent sharings….
ME大哥，
哈哈…..你言重了.不必客气.我没你说的那么行啦。。。
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Originally Posted by
MoralEpitome
Bro I understand what you are go， ng though…like you and perhaps many other bros…we started off with ST…and immediate gratification….but after a couple of years we get sick of it…we want more….we want the thrill….we want the exclusivity of a pussy….trust me it’s a dangerous game….and you may be easily gong tao and suddenly be sucked into a deep black hole…no pun intended….for me I had also been very prudent with spending my money on such pussies and would not overspend on them….but during a stage when I was so into her….I spend 3x on her what I would spend on other girls…so have fun! not to mention it also affects your r/s with your family…
Hi Bro ME,
You’re describing exactly what I hv gone tru…
I crave exclusivity which is both costly n dangerous. Knock on wood…so far I hv not been “gong-tao-ed.”
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Originally Posted by
somefools
recently my PRC chai (once again) lost her hard earned money to our IRs, she wanna me make up for lost if not she said she no mood to work. Knn. Immediately I told her, she wanna buy this that I will buy but she wanna ask for money. No way. She wanna break up so no meaning! I said okay then….
Night time she sms me saying sorry I broke your heart. Call me and I did not pick up. knn…
Hi bro,
Get away from her asap..
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Originally Posted by
prcsytlover
Looking thru this thread , reminds me of a old old story..
there was once a young 18yo pretty young gal who got a 50s suggur daddy. 1 fine day, she found out that she was pregnant…………………………………… ………………..
suddenly the dad pulls the hand of the old man and say, dun worry.. if she loses the child, just fuck her again!!! ha ha
hope u enjoy the story.
Hi bro prcsytlover,
Great story!! It happens daily in real life…
A few of my mistresses hv offered to hv my babies for a hefty fee. I hv politely declined. However, if a uni student happens to be my type of SYT n is a verified virgin n/or non-WL, I may go for it, hehehe.
Cheers!
Bro WB