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They shun men who appear to be ruffians or uneducated
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They detest men who dun treat gals/women w/ respect (btw, they hate being groped all over at KTVs…)
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They like men who r trustworthy
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The terms must be favourable
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Last, but not least, most men r very practical n give up after being rejected a few times. I’m very different, hahaha. I’m very persistent n hv very thick skin…actually all these gals hv rejected me numerous times, some actually hung up the phone on me. I’m totally undaunted. I try to maintain ctc w/ them every 2 wks. And bingo! Due to the vicissitudes of life, they may change their minds n r ready to be BAO-ed wks or months later, n when they do, I show up as an old fren offering the right terms.
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besafe
Hahaha ! Thanks for the encouragement.
I must be crazy. I went down and stake out the place in the afternoon.
But no luck still
Not very active lah…. just doing what a horny man wants to do.
Anyway… will need to take a break soon and visit GF.
Hope your KTV escapades yield you great dividends.
Cheers.
Hi bro,
This gal must be quite a looker for u to stake out the place, hahaha. You r like a big game hunter waiting for ur quarry.
I’ll resume my KTV outings in 2 wks. Chasing these KTV gals is exciting.
Cheers!
Any more success stories? Any failures? Pls share ur encounter w/ us here. We r all eager to learn.
Nowadays the distinction between a FL n a KTV gal is quite obscure. Many FLs also run KTV regularly, whereas many KTV gals who do ST r really FLs. Picking them up should be a cakewalk. On the other hand there r many younger n prettier PRC MMs, many of whom on student visa, who will not 出局 or do ST. BUT, almost all of them want to be BAO-ed if the terms r right.
Good night!
I like to express my sincere thx to all bros for posting here. Your continued support n participation will be greatly appreciated.
As for sharing the ctc of MMs, it’s always a sensitive n somewhat controversial subject. Personally, I’ll share almost every gal w/ bros here who meet certain criteria such as genuine FRs or 1 power (to protect the gals from AV). The only exception? The gal I’m currently BAO-ing or in love with, hahaha.
However, this thread is to discuss n debate strategies, report real-life experiences (both positive n negative) of picking up KTV gals outside KTVs n may not be the ideal place to share ctc of gals.
Thx for reading n good night!
So far we hv discussed where to pick up these KTV babes but only mentioned briefly HOW. Just remember that even the prettiest of them r a lot easier to pick up than regular gals. You need to hv a thick skin n be insensitive to repeated rejections.
Here is just one method of approach which has worked for an old chi ko pek like me. When u see a very pretty PRC MM who is likely to be a KTV gal, wherever she is, u should look at her confidently for a few secs, then smile. If she looks away quickly, it’s OK, bcos u hv established ur dominance. Relax, walk slowly towards her. A positive attitude n body language is the crucial factor here. Be a fearless, overconfident bastard. Try to be different from the other 500 men she has met n dun comment on her good looks if she is very attractive.
You: 你好有气质( or 你这件礼服很高贵) 哦!
She: 嗯
You: 你在KTV上班?
She: 嗯
You: 我会去找你坐台的, 怎么稱呼你?
She (sensing potential money): 我叫XX, 哪你呢?
You: 我是X大哥, 你的手机号码?
She: 好的, 81111111
You: 我明天来找你
She: 好, 再见!
You: Bye!
If u approach 10 of them, u r sure to get at least 3-5 ctc nos, hahaha.
Cheers!!
Hi bros,
I forgot something a lot more important than verbal communication…
A wk ago, my mentor gave me a “secret treatise"on how to get laid like crazy…it should work for any type of gal. IMHO, it’s far superior than the much-touted “The Game” n others.
For the 1s time in my life, I realize that man-woman RS is dependent on rapport n deepening rapport…n that non-verbal connection or rapport not only precedes but also is more important than any words u could ever utter when u approach a gal of ur dream…n pivotal to this rapport is ur eye ctc.
I’ll summarise the strategy here:
Catch Her Eye…
Learn how to get caught looking n then hold on to that look for an extra beat.
This can be tough. The socially-ingrained reflex of quickly looking away if we get caught staring at someone is universally human. But extended eye ctc is an important skill for the master cheongster. You must train urself to defeat ur averted gaze reflex.
Simply become CONSCIOUS of it — do it everywhere u r…at the store, in ur car, whatever. Start practicing on old ladies n dogs if u hv to, but keep doing it until u completely erase the urge to look away when some chio gal catches u checking her out, at least for the 1st couple of secs. Couple that w/ a quick genuine smile n u r on ur way to non-verbal mastery in no time! Watch how it creates lots of oppty w gals out of thin air where normally u might hv just passed like 2 ships in the nite…
Timing is important when it comes to establishing rapport by eye ctc. Try to hold eye ctc w her n smile for abt 5 secs ( the longest 5 secs of ur life it’ll seem like!…), then break away for abt 2 secs ( so u dun appear to be a psycho…), n then pick up the lingering eye ctc again. If u can, get her to look away 1st — a down look being best as this shows submission on her part (she is likely not aware she is doing it as this occurs at the subconscious level). It’s a clear signal she is interested. If she looks back at all it’s a good sign.
Lingering eye ctc is ur very 1st “hello”…as a dominant man who greets a woman. It immediately sets the stage for determining if she has any further interest in u.
You take only the minimal of chances by making lingering eye ctc. The world wont get any less stressful than this until u r rotting in ur grave…get it? You can do it! Now practice on every gal u find attractive, hahaha.
Whatever u do, dun get caught up in the trap of mentally berating urself for any kind of perceived rejection or failure. This will only trigger another shame episode n drive ur courage down even further. And if u continue acting fearful n shy around chio gals, u will be exhibiting a very loud, low-status male ’non-mating call’ that will send them running for the hills! Treat each oppty that doesn’t pan out as another training exercise. Understand that winning the internal struggle that goes on within ur skull is THE entire game when it comes to seduction. That’s bcos making it w chio gals is all abt ATTITUDE more than anything else, n the projection of attitude is strictly a mind game.
Thx for reading n hv a great day!!
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bonkster
Good one bro! This eye contact + smile thing really works from my experience.
N i can’t agree more with what u said about not mentally berating urself for any kind of perceived rejection or failure.
IMHO, picking up gals is kinda like playing soccer. The only way to get over missing a goal is to score one. N the only way to score one is to keep trying till u get it. No 2 ways about it
Hi bro,
I like ur soccer analogy. Be persistent, keep trying n trying…
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itsme
Wow bro …super good stuff.
What next after eye contact man? help out plssss
Hi bro,
If her eye ctc is positive, u should approach her w/ supreme confidence. Just be urself…for PRC MMs, u could take a look at the dialog I posted.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
cablesnwires
Haha, bro warbird, u are so right! Some really do study in the morning till afternoon, and after which they will start work (HH). Many stops at 9pm and refuses to go out.
Tried calling one, and after talking to her, knows that she doesn’t 出街。 Got to give up on that one.. haha…
Oh, and congratulations on your new squeeze…
Hi bro,
Dun give up so easily.
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roamersg
Hey bro Warbird, nice thread you opened! You are all over SBF! I encountered at Club Infinitude a student who was very much my type (except slightly short at 165) on her 2nd day working at KTV. Problem is she was so new, very reluctant to go out even for meal, only wanted to meet at KTV. But at KTV very lively and affectionate. I don’t have the patience to keep trying for so long to convince her and Bao-ing doesn’t make sense in my circumstances (with my traveling and family, hard to sneak away enough to enjoy the fruits). While I don’t know for sure, I am sure you’re right all will be Bao-d at right price–they only work KTV for the money after all
Hi bro roamersg,
Many PRC students refuse even to go out for lunch, especially when they r new.
I’m also constrained by time n circumstances n, unlike u, I dun even live in SGP. But I still enjoy BY-ing chio MMs, for fun, sex, companionship, whatever, even if it’s only for a brief periods of 1-2 months. Furthermore, I use them to practice my seduction n KC strategies, hehehe.
I always believe in the tremendous n unfair advantage of knowing others n knowing myself before undertaking any serious endeavors. Therefore, I hv asked the gals (who dun do ST) why they agreed to be BAO-ed by me (an unabashed old chi ko pek). Their reasons r similar n quite revealing.
Woody Allen is exactly right when he says: “80 percent of success is just showing up.” You need to be available when she needs u to BY her, not before n not after…
My biggest problem is that when they r ready, I may be overseas n they hv to wait for my return…of course I dun expect all of them to wait for me, hahaha.
Cheers!
Hi bros,
I forgot something…
How u react when u are repeatedly rejected by the gal, be it just for lunch, ST, BY or whatever, is of critical importance. Depending on ur reaction, she will judge n rank u, consciously n subconsciously, on the male dominance scale.
If u get angry, testy, frustrated or say something vulgar or, even worse, try to use coercion or force, u r finished w/ her forever. Also, if u appear needy, desperate or obsessed n try to pester her by calling n/or sending SMSes 5 times daily, etc, u r also finished. You will be branded a loser, a low status jerk/ruffian or a psycho.
On the other hand, if u remain undaunted, calm, relaxed, unflappable, as if nothing has happened, her respect n attraction for u hv just shot up. You will be perceived as a high status, dominant male, hehehe. Retreat n go missing for 2 wks, then resume ctc. Two steps forward n one step backward n be hot n cold. When the time is right, she will offer herself to u, for the right terms of course. Trust me on this one.
Good day!!
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Koreanlover
I offered to BY my girl …………..I picked the earlier one outside KTV and now my skin is as thick as elephant! Many failures but I believe will hit another one soon
Hi bro,
Faint heart never won fair lady. I’m becoming a fearless, overconfident bastard…hahaha.
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justl00king
They will say they don’t do ST, go out with customers or play it cool with hints of many better offers to bao them. These are just some of the tactics they use to get the most money.
Basically, the more they like being with you, the lesser you need to spend to bao them. Never be too eager or perceived to be needy. Many may be willing to throw money to bao them, also many pussies around for you to pick and choose.
Must always let them feel that it’s their loss, never ours.
Great advice, bro.
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besafe
Haha … I guess we have something common here.
Back in March 09, I was invited to a KTV for HH and I met this Hangzhou girl and was attracted to her. I immediately proposed to her that we go to hotel. Of course she refused me. After HH, I offered to send her home. Along the way, I popped the question again and was turned down flatly. After 2 weeks of “persistent chasing”, the inevitable happened. She is now back home and I looked forward to her return. In fact, when she went away, she passed my contact to one her sisters and want me to “take good care of her” too.
Back to the topic. Actually no need to pick up girls outside KTVs. All you need is to “take care” of some SYT students/KTV gals and asked them to sound out their classmates and pass the contacts to you. After that, the rest is up to you.
Good night.
Hi bro,
Shameless persistence is the key…but must also take repeated rejections w/ a cool, calm n detached attitude. Her respect for u as a sexy, dominant male is going up like a rocket, subconsciously n she can’t help herself…hahaha.
You’ve just hit on a wonderful strategy! I tried that w/ a TAM gal but she refused to help me…
Fortunately, CC, the KTV gal I picked up who was the reason I started this thread, had good news for me. As u recall I rejected her bcos she told me of her fake boobs. We remained frens n she has since become my private matchmaker or OKT, hahaha. I told her my type of gal （pretty n tall SYT） but have rejected several KTV gals she has intro thus far. She even offered her pretty 17 yo virgin cousin in SZ, but unfortunately I can’t travel to China to meet her. She is actively scouting around to find n persuade every pretty n tall PRC MM to be my mistress!!
Last night she sent me a text msg " X 大哥，我帮你找到你心里想要的美女…" I asked for the name, ctc no n the damage for ST for this 美女. I received her name n HP, but definitely no ST bcos she is not a KTV gal n has never done FL, instead she works in a beauty salon for women, 是正经的工作…she has just turned 19…hmmmm…I’m already salivating like a hungry wolf, hehehe. I also presume that CC has praised me as a kind-hearted gentleman, a father-mentor figure, who is willing to provide n protect an innocent young gal trying to make a living in a strange country…n that the gal has consented.
I guess if she is half as pretty as CC says she is, I’ll hv to take good care of her…
Bro besafe，we should join force n exchange/share our lobangs, hehehe.
Thx for reading n hv a great day!!
I like to share what the “secret treatise” wants u to do, after u get her ctc no. Wait a couple of days, then call to invite her out for a “date.”
Try to deepen ur rapport w/ her. Use ur voice like a drug! Influence her imagination not just w/ words, but by deepening the tones of ur voice every so often. Drop ur voice once every couple of sentences (slightly) as u make ur point. Also, pause once in a while to get her hanging on ur words just a bit.
Be an active n reflective listener. Encourage her to talk abt herself n her interests!
Your dialog w/ her should always be intended to arouse thoughts n feelings, not just senseless blather. How to do it? Any question that requires a peek into her deep memory is profoundly hypnotic bcos it forces her to move away from her rational mind.
Gals/women long to feel a deep connection w/ a dominant male…u hv to feed this desire within her subconscious mind. Do it by moving her through increasingly more intensely erotic sensations until she actually begins to take over the seduction from u!!
When the moment is right, suggest going to a “safe place” for a couple of hrs, hahaha. She will know exactly what u want…
Good night!!