Quote:
Originally Posted by
quinoagrain
Bro WB
Thanks for the above forum.
Let me quote these 2 great forums before I comment.
https://sbfsg.site/showpost.php?p=54...postcount=1658
https://sbfsg.site/showpost.php?p=54...postcount=1659
I agree with both bros because money is necessary to start the whole process. Without money nothing will happened.
As for choice of MILF or syts?
This topic can be widely debated and will be no winner. For bro WB case, his preference was syt and that was his desire although he wrote that his best fuck was with a 27 yrs old MILF.
Let us get this assumption clarified before we discuss further?
Syt meaning any women 18 - 21 yrs old? Some think 23 yrs old still syt?
MILF meaning any women above 24 yrs old and above?
To me, I have no preference and will just take any woman who willing to make love. I prefer woman who don’t ask for money but will still give token of appreciation after deed. Usually MILF around 27 to 32 yrs old still looks pretty good and many are capable to provide nice sexual services. Here we refer to those women who had some years of working in entertainment night life.
Syt usually inexperienced and will need plenty of guidance before can give great services. Some men love those dead fishes and gets excitement when faced with syt.
On the topic if you pay MILF a lower sum or not much at all then this is up to individual and also where do you fish. All about individual affordability.
Please post more and hope to read up the thread soon.
Have a great day.
Bro,
Tks for your post.
I still prefer to BY 18-20 yo SYTs who are full-time students, on a long-term basis. They are actually less expensive to keep. They are less greedy. Of course, they are much less experienced sexually. And they boost my immunity…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chaoslord
Bro WB has such a great thread ongoing here. I’m really impressed with your experiences, writing and willingness to share.
My Own Experience
Over the last 1 year I have become close to VM, a 27 yr old KTV VietBu. I am 36 and married.
From my experience of chionging, Viets are more transactional that ATBs who generally go for the long game (i.e they try to KC you). Viets are more fuck-and-forget. I have been to most of the Viet KTVs (Starlight, P9, Supreme, Ace Club, First Club etc) and most of the girls have a similar modus operandi. ………………………………………….. ………..
She does certain actions that makes me feel special.
She lets me go to her room and introduces me as her bf to her landlord who is strict about bringing guys back. I am the only person that she allows to go up and am sure of this. I still maintain a transactional approach to keep things clean.
She is very open with me and tells me the various aspects of her experiences which is mostly centered around the KTV. I know literally all her regular customers. I asked her if any of her customers know me and her reply was that if they did, it would mean that I am no longer special to her.
Interestingly though, all her friends at her KTV know who I am. I am not a big spender…I go for 2 towers during HH and never open bottles.
She talks openly about me to her friends and family.
We kiss. This is a big deal for her and I know that she is very particular about this. To her fucking is one thing, kissing is another. She has walked out of hotels before as her client insist on gfe and she simply refused. And this was a regular customer of hers. Needless to say, he never called back.
The thing she likes about me is that I give her space and never question or judge her about her job. It does drive me crazy at times when she messages “I am at XXX house now” but I come to realise that is just how she communicates. There is a big spender that has been wooing her for the longest time (paid her $5k for a 3 day holiday and books her like 2-3 times a week during SH). I told her that having a bf is a deathknell for her KTV job.
I have come to accept all this and go along for the ride. Any views from bros would be nice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Birkin
Good day!
I like to express my sincere gratitude to all bros who hv posted on this thread. I hv learned a great deal from all of you. The cumulative experience n wisdom of all the esteemed bros are incredibly useful to me.
It appears that most esteemed bros here prefer MILFs except our great champion Mr WB.
That said, I’ll look at younger MILFs favorably as I hv detailed my wonderful experience a few of them.
I also like to quote bro fallen.angel post which I had experienced myself.
I had similar experience quite sometime ago when I was visiting ktv. There was a PRC gal that refused to sit with a towkay and insist to sit with me. One thing lead to another and we had sex. She will take time out to go with me whenever she lonely and sad.
I knew she will go hv sex whenever she needed money. I did not pay her much for sex because she refused to take. Often I just slip the money into her bag.
I can understand why because there was plenty of competition and she don’t like to be roughened by the towkay and so see solace with me
All these sounds like fantasy but then it happened.
Hope all can contribute more to this thread and god bless.
Cheers!!
Bro, tks for such detailed FR.
It’s great that you hv found your special gal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hurricane88
Let me just comment here…
This is the modus operandi of Viet gal…all of the gals operate in similar fashion as though taught by the same masters…
To me, working in ktv is a Working Lady (WL)….
Your gal is just typical ang pai who had enough sex daily and also more than enough bfs to feed her…
Back in 2007 to 2009, there were many of similar gals operating in JC and GL….
If you think your gal is any different then you are sadly mistaken…
I had been flying to Vietnam monthly for the past 10 years….I can get gals to kiss me or I kiss her….This is no big deal…Viet gals are more liberally minded than you think….
Introduce to family members or her mother as bf is really nothing special…Enough of those and still can break the next day or week…For me, no more keen to visit any of this family and clearly a waste of time….btw, anything can be stage just for you to enjoy and trust…another mind fuck…
What she is hoping to do is to get you kc and for her to seek out some concern when she sad and upset with her regulars…she knew you are married and no point to talk any marriage with you……………………………
Suggest you read this thread to get some ideas and understand Viet gals culture…
https://sbfsg.site/showthread.php?t=64297
Bro,
Thank you for your insights. Actually, the modus operandi of most PRC gals who work at KTVs are quite similar. Most PRC singers are ruthless, psychopathic golddiggers.
There are very rare exceptions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
phablet
Bro WB
Thank you very much for staring a wonderful thread.
Amazing detailed account of PRC mms enrolled into USA varsities. Many of these PRC mms are from rich elite families whose father is high ranking Politburo members. Some of the mms graduated and started working in big corporations such as Wall Street firms. These mms will be liberal minded and willing to ONS.
The guru account below is quite a good description of the real thing.
……………………………….
Please have a great day.
Bro, tks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
kleptocrat
Bro WB
I was so happy to read this thread in full detail with delight.
SQ = Satisfaction Quotient.
What a discovery?
I was astonished to learn so many nice meaningful words and quotes.
I just wanted to quote bro Dragonkeep posts which was nicely written.
Such a talented writer with nice point of views.
This forum is almighty and best of the best.
Thanks for all your contributions.
Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
kleptocrat
Bro WB
I just cannot help but to comment on the above forum.
SQ can be difficult to quantify expectations. Some bros will want to quantify SQ with cost savings as opposed to how pretty satisfied with sex.
All of us want to pay less but one bro less and another less is different. Just like your group of kakis will think 15k to 20k is value for money if can get a good exclusive unconditional fark. Another group of bros may thank paying 1k or less will be the SQ expectations. Least another group may think getting free will resort to best SQ.
Always remember “One man’s meat is another man’s poison”.
Welcome all to comment here.
I suggest to read from beginning and take notes.
Cheers.
Bro, tks for your insights.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cognisance
Bro WB
Congratulations to you on a very successful thread for almost a decade.
I love small short gals because easier to carry and lift small gals up. Also can get her tight pussy with more feelings. Not those bony pelvis small skinny gals. I love small but not skinny gals.
The tight pussy will giev very satisfying bonk and need well lubrication to bonk otherwise dick may tear.
Nice to learn your taste had changed from tall gals to shorter gals.
Think varieties is the main thing.
I had big and tall gals before but I dun enjoy them.
Thanks for your kind attention to my post.
Bro, tks.
I like gals who are 160-173. It’s not the absolute height, but the gal must be proportionate and hv my preferred head-torso-breasts-butt-limbs proportions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
vuzua
I love small short gals too.
Didn’t realize this thread is almost a decade, congrats Bro WB.
Cheers.
Thanks, bro.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cognisance
Bro WB
What do you think the USD is heading?
What was the exchange rate back in Nov 2010?
Today 1 USD is about 1.335 SGD.
Many of those who had not been able to gain entry into Singapore had been plying their trade in various major cities……………….
Selamat Hari Raya Aidil Fitri.
Bro, tks.
The USD to SGD exchange rate was 1.31 back in Nov 2010. The exchange rate has not changed much.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
nanogerian
Bro WB
I was keen to discuss this topic that most gals are not satisfied with their looks and figure.
Recently cosmetics surgeries had very good business. Many went to do at least some procedures to improve look. Some girls went overseas to do such cosmetics procedures.
Many PRC, Thai, Vietnamese, Singapore girls had been saving to do cosmetics procedures too.
I wonder which girls are fully satisfied with her looks?
Thanks for such a detailed forums.
Have a nice long weekend.
Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Amost all gals are insecure. They worry about their looks and figure.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
nanogerian
Bro WB
I also like the cheap fast and good too. I wonder why anyone will reject?
Always nice and proud when your gf always look good with great assets.
I wonder who like “Not cheap, Not fast and Not good”? This situation will always not favorable to us guys.
Wonder also any girl have perfect snow skin?
Don’t be wrong, I also like snow skin.
I dislike a nice good figure with tattoos. Many pretty girls have ugly tattoos spoil their body.
Feel free to comment?
Thanks + cheers.
Bro, tks for your post.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
umami
Bro,
Thank you for a nice effective thread.
I am suspicious of bro jamezwit because I had tried too. In social media apps, you need to spent plenty of time to attract even a nice girl to chat. Another method was to post a handsome Avatar like Andy Law photos. But then when gal wants to do video chat and found you were ugly man surely will not even meet up.
Plenty of scam too in the social media apps asking for us to send money or buy itune cards. Also show you strip tease show then ask you to masturbate yourself. Later send you msg to say blackmail otherwise threaten to post online or send to friends and relatives.
Always read with a pinch of salt.
Thank you for your time and attention.
Have a nice SUnday.
Bro, tks for your insights.
You could be right.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
sommeliers
Bro WB
Thank you making a wonderful thread.
I agreed with your guru on the “kissing”.
Kissing intimately solved many confusions and soothes nerves. Also provides plenty of passion between the couple. A simple peck on the cheeks always nice when a girl is nervy and unsure what to do.
Kiss her, already. Make it all better. This statement sounded extremely sexy if your girl has a sexy body. When can kiss will be able to let you hold her body.
When a girl expects a kiss then best to kiss her otherwise the guy will forever miss the chance. I am not sure if many will agree with you but this may be a controversy.
Is just simple case if the girl expects to get laid and the guy couln’t do it then can forget it.
Thank you for nice thread.
Hope to read more excellent post and guide.
Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Many gals believe that frenching kissing is more intimate than sexual intercourse. I don’t agree.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cowtory
I had similar experience too. 2 PRC SYTs were on my left and right and eventually we had sex.
Great learning from this thread, thanks to bro WB.
Cheers
Bro, tks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
naemlo
How will u confirm, she dun say the same to another pay master? To maintain regular customers or roberts, shes need to convince all are special.
Another thought, she is the so called ang pai n u? Face of Cruise, wealth of Trump or charisma of Mandela? Why will she be truly yours?
Most of us went thru this “love” game and most enjoy or hurt n move on… how many boast blissful marriage?
Since u cheong a lot, guess u should have gone thru all these. Further, u are married….Just enjoy the game while it lasts and move on with life after she leaves.
Bro, tks so much for your insightful post. Your advice is spot on.
But nothing lasts forever. Even a blissful marriage comes w/ an expiration date.
We should just live in the present moment, accept whatever is happening to us, and be happy NOW!
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
quinoagrain
Bro WB
Thanks for the above forum.
Let me quote these 2 great forums before I comment.
https://sbf.net.nz/showpost.php?p=54...postcount=1658
https://sbf.net.nz/showpost.php?p=54...postcount=1659
I agree with both bros because money is necessary to start the whole process. Without money nothing will happened.
As for choice of MILF or syts?
This topic can be widely debated and will be no winner. For bro WB case, his preference was syt and that was his desire although he wrote that his best fuck was with a 27 yrs old MILF.
Let us get this assumption clarified before we discuss further?
Syt meaning any women 18 - 21 yrs old? Some think 23 yrs old still syt?
MILF meaning any women above 24 yrs old and above?
To me, I have no preference and will just take any woman who willing to make love. I prefer woman who don’t ask for money but will still give token of appreciation after deed. Usually MILF around 27 to 32 yrs old still looks pretty good and many are capable to provide nice sexual services. Here we refer to those women who had some years of working in entertainment night life.
Syt usually inexperienced and will need plenty of guidance before can give great services. Some men love those dead fishes and gets excitement when faced with syt.
On the topic if you pay MILF a lower sum or not much at all then this is up to individual and also where do you fish. All about individual affordability.
Please post more and hope to read up the thread soon.
Have a great day.
Bro,
Tks for your post.
I still prefer to BY 18-20 yo SYTs who are full-time students, on a long-term basis. They are actually less expensive to keep. They are less greedy. Of course, they are much less experienced sexually. And they boost my immunity…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chaoslord
Bro WB has such a great thread ongoing here. I’m really impressed with your experiences, writing and willingness to share.
My Own Experience
Over the last 1 year I have become close to VM, a 27 yr old KTV VietBu. I am 36 and married.
From my experience of chionging, Viets are more transactional that ATBs who generally go for the long game (i.e they try to KC you). Viets are more fuck-and-forget. I have been to most of the Viet KTVs (Starlight, P9, Supreme, Ace Club, First Club etc) and most of the girls have a similar modus operandi. ………………………………………….. ………..
She does certain actions that makes me feel special.
She lets me go to her room and introduces me as her bf to her landlord who is strict about bringing guys back. I am the only person that she allows to go up and am sure of this. I still maintain a transactional approach to keep things clean.
She is very open with me and tells me the various aspects of her experiences which is mostly centered around the KTV. I know literally all her regular customers. I asked her if any of her customers know me and her reply was that if they did, it would mean that I am no longer special to her.
Interestingly though, all her friends at her KTV know who I am. I am not a big spender…I go for 2 towers during HH and never open bottles.
She talks openly about me to her friends and family.
We kiss. This is a big deal for her and I know that she is very particular about this. To her fucking is one thing, kissing is another. She has walked out of hotels before as her client insist on gfe and she simply refused. And this was a regular customer of hers. Needless to say, he never called back.
The thing she likes about me is that I give her space and never question or judge her about her job. It does drive me crazy at times when she messages “I am at XXX house now” but I come to realise that is just how she communicates. There is a big spender that has been wooing her for the longest time (paid her $5k for a 3 day holiday and books her like 2-3 times a week during SH). I told her that having a bf is a deathknell for her KTV job.
I have come to accept all this and go along for the ride. Any views from bros would be nice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Birkin
Good day!
I like to express my sincere gratitude to all bros who hv posted on this thread. I hv learned a great deal from all of you. The cumulative experience n wisdom of all the esteemed bros are incredibly useful to me.
It appears that most esteemed bros here prefer MILFs except our great champion Mr WB.
That said, I’ll look at younger MILFs favorably as I hv detailed my wonderful experience a few of them.
I also like to quote bro fallen.angel post which I had experienced myself.
I had similar experience quite sometime ago when I was visiting ktv. There was a PRC gal that refused to sit with a towkay and insist to sit with me. One thing lead to another and we had sex. She will take time out to go with me whenever she lonely and sad.
I knew she will go hv sex whenever she needed money. I did not pay her much for sex because she refused to take. Often I just slip the money into her bag.
I can understand why because there was plenty of competition and she don’t like to be roughened by the towkay and so see solace with me
All these sounds like fantasy but then it happened.
Hope all can contribute more to this thread and god bless.
Cheers!!
Bro, tks for such detailed FR.
It’s great that you hv found your special gal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hurricane88
Let me just comment here…
This is the modus operandi of Viet gal…all of the gals operate in similar fashion as though taught by the same masters…
To me, working in ktv is a Working Lady (WL)….
Your gal is just typical ang pai who had enough sex daily and also more than enough bfs to feed her…
Back in 2007 to 2009, there were many of similar gals operating in JC and GL….
If you think your gal is any different then you are sadly mistaken…
I had been flying to Vietnam monthly for the past 10 years….I can get gals to kiss me or I kiss her….This is no big deal…Viet gals are more liberally minded than you think….
Introduce to family members or her mother as bf is really nothing special…Enough of those and still can break the next day or week…For me, no more keen to visit any of this family and clearly a waste of time….btw, anything can be stage just for you to enjoy and trust…another mind fuck…
What she is hoping to do is to get you kc and for her to seek out some concern when she sad and upset with her regulars…she knew you are married and no point to talk any marriage with you……………………………
Suggest you read this thread to get some ideas and understand Viet gals culture…
https://sbf.net.nz/showthread.php?t=64297
Bro,
Thank you for your insights. Actually, the modus operandi of most PRC gals who work at KTVs are quite similar. Most PRC singers are ruthless, psychopathic golddiggers.
There are very rare exceptions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
phablet
Bro WB
Thank you very much for staring a wonderful thread.
Amazing detailed account of PRC mms enrolled into USA varsities. Many of these PRC mms are from rich elite families whose father is high ranking Politburo members. Some of the mms graduated and started working in big corporations such as Wall Street firms. These mms will be liberal minded and willing to ONS.
The guru account below is quite a good description of the real thing.
……………………………….
Please have a great day.
Bro, tks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
kleptocrat
Bro WB
I was so happy to read this thread in full detail with delight.
SQ = Satisfaction Quotient.
What a discovery?
I was astonished to learn so many nice meaningful words and quotes.
I just wanted to quote bro Dragonkeep posts which was nicely written.
Such a talented writer with nice point of views.
This forum is almighty and best of the best.
Thanks for all your contributions.
Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
kleptocrat
Bro WB
I just cannot help but to comment on the above forum.
SQ can be difficult to quantify expectations. Some bros will want to quantify SQ with cost savings as opposed to how pretty satisfied with sex.
All of us want to pay less but one bro less and another less is different. Just like your group of kakis will think 15k to 20k is value for money if can get a good exclusive unconditional fark. Another group of bros may thank paying 1k or less will be the SQ expectations. Least another group may think getting free will resort to best SQ.
Always remember “One man’s meat is another man’s poison”.
Welcome all to comment here.
I suggest to read from beginning and take notes.
Cheers.
Bro, tks for your insights.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cognisance
Bro WB
Congratulations to you on a very successful thread for almost a decade.
I love small short gals because easier to carry and lift small gals up. Also can get her tight pussy with more feelings. Not those bony pelvis small skinny gals. I love small but not skinny gals.
The tight pussy will giev very satisfying bonk and need well lubrication to bonk otherwise dick may tear.
Nice to learn your taste had changed from tall gals to shorter gals.
Think varieties is the main thing.
I had big and tall gals before but I dun enjoy them.
Thanks for your kind attention to my post.
Bro, tks.
I like gals who are 160-173. It’s not the absolute height, but the gal must be proportionate and hv my preferred head-torso-breasts-butt-limbs proportions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
vuzua
I love small short gals too.
Didn’t realize this thread is almost a decade, congrats Bro WB.
Cheers.
Thanks, bro.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cognisance
Bro WB
What do you think the USD is heading?
What was the exchange rate back in Nov 2010?
Today 1 USD is about 1.335 SGD.
Many of those who had not been able to gain entry into Singapore had been plying their trade in various major cities……………….
Selamat Hari Raya Aidil Fitri.
Bro, tks.
The USD to SGD exchange rate was 1.31 back in Nov 2010. The exchange rate has not changed much.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
nanogerian
Bro WB
I was keen to discuss this topic that most gals are not satisfied with their looks and figure.
Recently cosmetics surgeries had very good business. Many went to do at least some procedures to improve look. Some girls went overseas to do such cosmetics procedures.
Many PRC, Thai, Vietnamese, Singapore girls had been saving to do cosmetics procedures too.
I wonder which girls are fully satisfied with her looks?
Thanks for such a detailed forums.
Have a nice long weekend.
Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Amost all gals are insecure. They worry about their looks and figure.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
nanogerian
Bro WB
I also like the cheap fast and good too. I wonder why anyone will reject?
Always nice and proud when your gf always look good with great assets.
I wonder who like “Not cheap, Not fast and Not good”? This situation will always not favorable to us guys.
Wonder also any girl have perfect snow skin?
Don’t be wrong, I also like snow skin.
I dislike a nice good figure with tattoos. Many pretty girls have ugly tattoos spoil their body.
Feel free to comment?
Thanks + cheers.
Bro, tks for your post.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
umami
Bro,
Thank you for a nice effective thread.
I am suspicious of bro jamezwit because I had tried too. In social media apps, you need to spent plenty of time to attract even a nice girl to chat. Another method was to post a handsome Avatar like Andy Law photos. But then when gal wants to do video chat and found you were ugly man surely will not even meet up.
Plenty of scam too in the social media apps asking for us to send money or buy itune cards. Also show you strip tease show then ask you to masturbate yourself. Later send you msg to say blackmail otherwise threaten to post online or send to friends and relatives.
Always read with a pinch of salt.
Thank you for your time and attention.
Have a nice SUnday.
Bro, tks for your insights.
You could be right.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
sommeliers
Bro WB
Thank you making a wonderful thread.
I agreed with your guru on the “kissing”.
Kissing intimately solved many confusions and soothes nerves. Also provides plenty of passion between the couple. A simple peck on the cheeks always nice when a girl is nervy and unsure what to do.
Kiss her, already. Make it all better. This statement sounded extremely sexy if your girl has a sexy body. When can kiss will be able to let you hold her body.
When a girl expects a kiss then best to kiss her otherwise the guy will forever miss the chance. I am not sure if many will agree with you but this may be a controversy.
Is just simple case if the girl expects to get laid and the guy couln’t do it then can forget it.
Thank you for nice thread.
Hope to read more excellent post and guide.
Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Many gals believe that frenching kissing is more intimate than sexual intercourse. I don’t agree.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cowtory
I had similar experience too. 2 PRC SYTs were on my left and right and eventually we had sex.
Great learning from this thread, thanks to bro WB.
Cheers
Bro, tks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
naemlo
How will u confirm, she dun say the same to another pay master? To maintain regular customers or roberts, shes need to convince all are special.
Another thought, she is the so called ang pai n u? Face of Cruise, wealth of Trump or charisma of Mandela? Why will she be truly yours?
Most of us went thru this “love” game and most enjoy or hurt n move on… how many boast blissful marriage?
Since u cheong a lot, guess u should have gone thru all these. Further, u are married….Just enjoy the game while it lasts and move on with life after she leaves.
Bro, tks so much for your insightful post. Your advice is spot on.
But nothing lasts forever. Even a blissful marriage comes w/ an expiration date.
We should just live in the present moment, accept whatever is happening to us, and be happy NOW!
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
quinoagrain
Bro WB
Thanks for the above forum.
Let me quote these 2 great forums before I comment.
https://sbf.net.nz/showpost.php?p=54...postcount=1658
https://sbf.net.nz/showpost.php?p=54...postcount=1659
I agree with both bros because money is necessary to start the whole process. Without money nothing will happened.
As for choice of MILF or syts?
This topic can be widely debated and will be no winner. For bro WB case, his preference was syt and that was his desire although he wrote that his best fuck was with a 27 yrs old MILF.
Let us get this assumption clarified before we discuss further?
Syt meaning any women 18 - 21 yrs old? Some think 23 yrs old still syt?
MILF meaning any women above 24 yrs old and above?
To me, I have no preference and will just take any woman who willing to make love. I prefer woman who don’t ask for money but will still give token of appreciation after deed. Usually MILF around 27 to 32 yrs old still looks pretty good and many are capable to provide nice sexual services. Here we refer to those women who had some years of working in entertainment night life.
Syt usually inexperienced and will need plenty of guidance before can give great services. Some men love those dead fishes and gets excitement when faced with syt.
On the topic if you pay MILF a lower sum or not much at all then this is up to individual and also where do you fish. All about individual affordability.
Please post more and hope to read up the thread soon.
Have a great day.
Bro,
Tks for your post.
I still prefer to BY 18-20 yo SYTs who are full-time students, on a long-term basis. They are actually less expensive to keep. They are less greedy. Of course, they are much less experienced sexually. And they boost my immunity…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chaoslord
Bro WB has such a great thread ongoing here. I’m really impressed with your experiences, writing and willingness to share.
My Own Experience
Over the last 1 year I have become close to VM, a 27 yr old KTV VietBu. I am 36 and married.
From my experience of chionging, Viets are more transactional that ATBs who generally go for the long game (i.e they try to KC you). Viets are more fuck-and-forget. I have been to most of the Viet KTVs (Starlight, P9, Supreme, Ace Club, First Club etc) and most of the girls have a similar modus operandi. ………………………………………….. ………..
She does certain actions that makes me feel special.
She lets me go to her room and introduces me as her bf to her landlord who is strict about bringing guys back. I am the only person that she allows to go up and am sure of this. I still maintain a transactional approach to keep things clean.
She is very open with me and tells me the various aspects of her experiences which is mostly centered around the KTV. I know literally all her regular customers. I asked her if any of her customers know me and her reply was that if they did, it would mean that I am no longer special to her.
Interestingly though, all her friends at her KTV know who I am. I am not a big spender…I go for 2 towers during HH and never open bottles.
She talks openly about me to her friends and family.
We kiss. This is a big deal for her and I know that she is very particular about this. To her fucking is one thing, kissing is another. She has walked out of hotels before as her client insist on gfe and she simply refused. And this was a regular customer of hers. Needless to say, he never called back.
The thing she likes about me is that I give her space and never question or judge her about her job. It does drive me crazy at times when she messages “I am at XXX house now” but I come to realise that is just how she communicates. There is a big spender that has been wooing her for the longest time (paid her $5k for a 3 day holiday and books her like 2-3 times a week during SH). I told her that having a bf is a deathknell for her KTV job.
I have come to accept all this and go along for the ride. Any views from bros would be nice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Birkin
Good day!
I like to express my sincere gratitude to all bros who hv posted on this thread. I hv learned a great deal from all of you. The cumulative experience n wisdom of all the esteemed bros are incredibly useful to me.
It appears that most esteemed bros here prefer MILFs except our great champion Mr WB.
That said, I’ll look at younger MILFs favorably as I hv detailed my wonderful experience a few of them.
I also like to quote bro fallen.angel post which I had experienced myself.
I had similar experience quite sometime ago when I was visiting ktv. There was a PRC gal that refused to sit with a towkay and insist to sit with me. One thing lead to another and we had sex. She will take time out to go with me whenever she lonely and sad.
I knew she will go hv sex whenever she needed money. I did not pay her much for sex because she refused to take. Often I just slip the money into her bag.
I can understand why because there was plenty of competition and she don’t like to be roughened by the towkay and so see solace with me
All these sounds like fantasy but then it happened.
Hope all can contribute more to this thread and god bless.
Cheers!!
Bro, tks for such detailed FR.
It’s great that you hv found your special gal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hurricane88
Let me just comment here…
This is the modus operandi of Viet gal…all of the gals operate in similar fashion as though taught by the same masters…
To me, working in ktv is a Working Lady (WL)….
Your gal is just typical ang pai who had enough sex daily and also more than enough bfs to feed her…
Back in 2007 to 2009, there were many of similar gals operating in JC and GL….
If you think your gal is any different then you are sadly mistaken…
I had been flying to Vietnam monthly for the past 10 years….I can get gals to kiss me or I kiss her….This is no big deal…Viet gals are more liberally minded than you think….
Introduce to family members or her mother as bf is really nothing special…Enough of those and still can break the next day or week…For me, no more keen to visit any of this family and clearly a waste of time….btw, anything can be stage just for you to enjoy and trust…another mind fuck…
What she is hoping to do is to get you kc and for her to seek out some concern when she sad and upset with her regulars…she knew you are married and no point to talk any marriage with you……………………………
Suggest you read this thread to get some ideas and understand Viet gals culture…
https://sbf.net.nz/showthread.php?t=64297
Bro,
Thank you for your insights. Actually, the modus operandi of most PRC gals who work at KTVs are quite similar. Most PRC singers are ruthless, psychopathic golddiggers.
There are very rare exceptions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
phablet
Bro WB
Thank you very much for staring a wonderful thread.
Amazing detailed account of PRC mms enrolled into USA varsities. Many of these PRC mms are from rich elite families whose father is high ranking Politburo members. Some of the mms graduated and started working in big corporations such as Wall Street firms. These mms will be liberal minded and willing to ONS.
The guru account below is quite a good description of the real thing.
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Please have a great day.
Bro, tks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
kleptocrat
Bro WB
I was so happy to read this thread in full detail with delight.
SQ = Satisfaction Quotient.
What a discovery?
I was astonished to learn so many nice meaningful words and quotes.
I just wanted to quote bro Dragonkeep posts which was nicely written.
Such a talented writer with nice point of views.
This forum is almighty and best of the best.
Thanks for all your contributions.
Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
kleptocrat
Bro WB
I just cannot help but to comment on the above forum.
SQ can be difficult to quantify expectations. Some bros will want to quantify SQ with cost savings as opposed to how pretty satisfied with sex.
All of us want to pay less but one bro less and another less is different. Just like your group of kakis will think 15k to 20k is value for money if can get a good exclusive unconditional fark. Another group of bros may thank paying 1k or less will be the SQ expectations. Least another group may think getting free will resort to best SQ.
Always remember “One man’s meat is another man’s poison”.
Welcome all to comment here.
I suggest to read from beginning and take notes.
Cheers.
Bro, tks for your insights.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cognisance
Bro WB
Congratulations to you on a very successful thread for almost a decade.
I love small short gals because easier to carry and lift small gals up. Also can get her tight pussy with more feelings. Not those bony pelvis small skinny gals. I love small but not skinny gals.
The tight pussy will giev very satisfying bonk and need well lubrication to bonk otherwise dick may tear.
Nice to learn your taste had changed from tall gals to shorter gals.
Think varieties is the main thing.
I had big and tall gals before but I dun enjoy them.
Thanks for your kind attention to my post.
Bro, tks.
I like gals who are 160-173. It’s not the absolute height, but the gal must be proportionate and hv my preferred head-torso-breasts-butt-limbs proportions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
vuzua
I love small short gals too.
Didn’t realize this thread is almost a decade, congrats Bro WB.
Cheers.
Thanks, bro.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cognisance
Bro WB
What do you think the USD is heading?
What was the exchange rate back in Nov 2010?
Today 1 USD is about 1.335 SGD.
Many of those who had not been able to gain entry into Singapore had been plying their trade in various major cities……………….
Selamat Hari Raya Aidil Fitri.
Bro, tks.
The USD to SGD exchange rate was 1.31 back in Nov 2010. The exchange rate has not changed much.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
nanogerian
Bro WB
I was keen to discuss this topic that most gals are not satisfied with their looks and figure.
Recently cosmetics surgeries had very good business. Many went to do at least some procedures to improve look. Some girls went overseas to do such cosmetics procedures.
Many PRC, Thai, Vietnamese, Singapore girls had been saving to do cosmetics procedures too.
I wonder which girls are fully satisfied with her looks?
Thanks for such a detailed forums.
Have a nice long weekend.
Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Amost all gals are insecure. They worry about their looks and figure.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
nanogerian
Bro WB
I also like the cheap fast and good too. I wonder why anyone will reject?
Always nice and proud when your gf always look good with great assets.
I wonder who like “Not cheap, Not fast and Not good”? This situation will always not favorable to us guys.
Wonder also any girl have perfect snow skin?
Don’t be wrong, I also like snow skin.
I dislike a nice good figure with tattoos. Many pretty girls have ugly tattoos spoil their body.
Feel free to comment?
Thanks + cheers.
Bro, tks for your post.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
umami
Bro,
Thank you for a nice effective thread.
I am suspicious of bro jamezwit because I had tried too. In social media apps, you need to spent plenty of time to attract even a nice girl to chat. Another method was to post a handsome Avatar like Andy Law photos. But then when gal wants to do video chat and found you were ugly man surely will not even meet up.
Plenty of scam too in the social media apps asking for us to send money or buy itune cards. Also show you strip tease show then ask you to masturbate yourself. Later send you msg to say blackmail otherwise threaten to post online or send to friends and relatives.
Always read with a pinch of salt.
Thank you for your time and attention.
Have a nice SUnday.
Bro, tks for your insights.
You could be right.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
sommeliers
Bro WB
Thank you making a wonderful thread.
I agreed with your guru on the “kissing”.
Kissing intimately solved many confusions and soothes nerves. Also provides plenty of passion between the couple. A simple peck on the cheeks always nice when a girl is nervy and unsure what to do.
Kiss her, already. Make it all better. This statement sounded extremely sexy if your girl has a sexy body. When can kiss will be able to let you hold her body.
When a girl expects a kiss then best to kiss her otherwise the guy will forever miss the chance. I am not sure if many will agree with you but this may be a controversy.
Is just simple case if the girl expects to get laid and the guy couln’t do it then can forget it.
Thank you for nice thread.
Hope to read more excellent post and guide.
Cheers.
Bro, tks.
Many gals believe that frenching kissing is more intimate than sexual intercourse. I don’t agree.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cowtory
I had similar experience too. 2 PRC SYTs were on my left and right and eventually we had sex.
Great learning from this thread, thanks to bro WB.
Cheers
Bro, tks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
naemlo
How will u confirm, she dun say the same to another pay master? To maintain regular customers or roberts, shes need to convince all are special.
Another thought, she is the so called ang pai n u? Face of Cruise, wealth of Trump or charisma of Mandela? Why will she be truly yours?
Most of us went thru this “love” game and most enjoy or hurt n move on… how many boast blissful marriage?
Since u cheong a lot, guess u should have gone thru all these. Further, u are married….Just enjoy the game while it lasts and move on with life after she leaves.
Bro, tks so much for your insightful post. Your advice is spot on.
But nothing lasts forever. Even a blissful marriage comes w/ an expiration date.
We should just live in the present moment, accept whatever is happening to us, and be happy NOW!
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chaoslord
Thanks bro for your advice. I have read the (very long) thread before and you are quite the guru at this! In a land of smoke and mirrors, I know better than to go in with rose tinted glasses.
Everything you say makes sense and you are probably right in general. I am not under any illusion that the VM is any different………………..
I am satisfied for a simple reason……………………
And that is perfectly fine.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chaoslord
A smart lady working in this line would know what to say to each customer to extract maximum rent. I am certain that she knows how to sweet talk her way to what each customer wants to hear.
But as long as she tells me what I want to hear, I don’t care about anything else. I’m here to have fun, not here to find a LT r/s. Getting into a r/s with a WL is one of the worst decision any bro can make in my view.
I have my own qualities and am confidant of my abilities with the opposite gender. ……………………….
Your last sentence strikes home and its exactly what I am going through. I am enjoying the game. Having commitments is actually a perfect wakeup call each time I find myself falling too deep. It’s thanks to bros like you that keeps my feet and head on the ground.
Bro,
Tks for your posts. No such thing as a “Special One,” whether the female is a WL or non-WL. They all get old, get sick and then die.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hurricane88
Great that you had read the other thread in detail…I am not guru but just frequent flier to Vietnam…what captivates me was the vast country and the ppl…
I like quote “My gal is different from other WL”…this is dangerous becos your WL gal is no diff from any other WL…
Even Bro WB recommend if you want any gal from any nationality then best to hunt in SOURCE…still have friends that flew in bi-monthly for past 10 years…
There were quite a few success stories among our friends who married Viet gals and had started families…
I like to quote “If you trust WL then pigs can climb trees”…
Bro, tks for your post. Yeah, if a man wants the best quality gals, he must go to the source. But it will take a lot of time. Damage is abt the same too. I prefer to get THE best I happen to see in SG.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
damong777
My 2 cents on matter
Those ktv u mentioned are only open recently in past 2 years plus. I may be wrong as stopped for some time after 2 years crash course in ktv culture.
And vbs there are well taught ady. Mostly have come to sg on w permit or such where the monthly repayment is not cheap. Hence going St is norm as long as price is right. Friends working know no diff. My previous experiences all gals waitress also know who I find usually. Just bear in mind she is here for $$$ love way low.
U can feel special but question is how can u sure she does not make other feel the same. So take it with a pinch of salt. Maybe she looking for best fish to bait while u r in the loop.
And also down to what u expect out of it first? U are married. R u going to give up your marriage for this gal?
Have u been to her home in Vietnam etc…
My simple advise fnf best. U are getting slowly into kc game with her. Believe me kc with vb not for faint heartened and not for those with family
Seen too families sg broke up over vbs in ktv.
Bro,
Tks for your post. Getting KC-ed by a WL is dangerous to a man’s physical, mental and financial well being. He needs awesome emotional self-mastery to avoid being a victim.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
naemlo
There are a few good examples of samsters marrying WL which I know of but out of 100, only 1 or 2 are happily after.
I rather spend my time n money on 4D.
Bro, tks.
You’re right. Living happily after marrying a WL? Perhaps one percent. How many normal couples live happily after marriage? For the rest of their lives. Maybe 10%?
There was a famous GP in SG, around 60 plus years ago, who married a very young cabaret gal, reportedly aged 17. They appeared to hv lived happily thereafter. Their children are quite brilliant, but a couple of them are homosexuals. I heard he made his money by performing illegal abortions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
aimuon
Bro WB
I really enjoyed your post and bro LDH post below.
It’s harsh reality but makes cow sense.
These gals whether singers, waitress or PR are here for money.
Not the first time and last time, I heard that these girls can earn easuly from Singapore men. Not sure why SIngaporean men labelled as Mr Nice Guy.
I am not sure if I am nice but I will demand to get service at a cheap price if any girls intend to earn my money. I wil pay the price that was fixed and no more extra. I am not sure why men think that paying extra will get more or better services.
There are just too many poor peasants in PRC in the past and not anymore. I was amazed to learn that Vietnam girls are flooding almost every shores which offers them a living. Seems that there will be explosive soon.
Hope you don’t mind me quoting too many posts in your lovely thread.
Please continue your fine effort.
Cheers.
Bro,
Tks for quoting these old posts. Bro LDH’s advice was very sound and discerning.
Most SG men behave like nice guys because they hv a scarcity mindset. They treat these WLs as grand prizes. They get needy and jealous and compete fiercely to win their affections. It’s so pathetic.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Birkin
Bro WB
Jealousy is one of the best tools to use to make a girl jealous. But can also do the reverse.
This method had been used widely and can be effective in testing if the girl was jealous when you started ignoring her and show much attention to other girls. Of course the reverse always true when big ego guy felt jealous when their target girl started talking or behaving intimately with guys.
A girl will never get jealous if she showed no interest or affection to you. Don’t need to use this method on her. Can forget about her.
“Jealousy is an emotion; the term generally refers to the thoughts or feelings of insecurity, fear, concern, and envy over relative lack of possessions, status or something of great personal value, particularly in reference to a comparator.”
Jealousy is not good for guy who are keen to the PLAYER. Guys should not be jealous.
Any comment?
Feel free to post.
Thanks.
Bro,
If a man exhibits any jealousy and neediness, his gal will find him REPULSIVE. period.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
quinoagrain
Bro, thanks for reply. You had great taste.
Keep up been young and healthy.
Bro, tks.
Just my type of pussies. One man’s meat is another man’s poison.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
pantomime
Bro WB
Your story above is just similar to “pantomine”.
Well done bro, I also do not take “NO” for an answer. Since you had Bao her and why take NO? Your dominance should be respected.
I can imagine what it meant with a beauty lying half naked in bed. Even old man also buay tahan. Really admired your prowess to shoot at your ah pek age. Not sure if you rely in any pill?
Sex is the best antidote for sleep deprivation. Women who can orgasm multiple times will be in slumber quickly. Men too actually sleep very well after sex.
Thank you for posting such anecdote.
Hope to read more from you.
Cheers mate!!
Bro,
Tks for quoting such an old post. My LPs don’t say no to me, only I’m allowed to say NO to them.
I remember bro MillerV. He attended a few of my outings at TAM and Dynasty. And then he disappeared after 2011. I bumped into him unexpectedly in Dec 2016 at Marina Square. I was walking w/ my joint LPs to dinner. Bro MillerV was still very young n handsome, around early 30s?
We exchanged greetings. He had a 8-month-old baby in his arm n he said no more cheonging as he was married. I looked to the right n saw a short n fat woman walking away from me, pushing a baby carriage. I presumed she was his legal wife, I couldn’t see her face. He had good taste n was very selective before. I felt very sorry for him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chaoslord
I still find it best to keep things transactional on a per visit basis. This way they will only be paid once service is provided and helps to keep standards up as well. Receiving 10 x 300 instead of 1 x 3,000 is more motivational based on human psychology.
Bro, I agree. But that is ST.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chefJustinaKwek
Same, I also do not take “NO” for an answer.
Very nice thread by Bro WB, hope to learn more.
Cheers
Bro, tks.
You’re right. Don’t take NO for an answer. BUt we should say NO much more often.
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Good morning to all samsters,
Thank you! What an auspicious day!
“Most SG men behave like nice guys because they hv a scarcity mindset. They treat these WLs as grand prizes. They get needy and jealous and compete fiercely to win their affections. It’s so pathetic.”
I sometimes say the magic words to gals I don’t want to ST or BY. I do that as I learn a lot from their reactions. And I hv the pulse on the market trends n price range. I’m constantly improving.
But some bros get very nervous n insecure because I raise ST or BY question, w/ gals they are chasing haha. I will NEVER say the magic words if I know she is the confirmed GF or LP of a kaki. I know several hundreds of kaki. Oftentimes I won’t know. My sincerest apologies if that happens to one your GFs. But if a kaki is merely chasing a gal, who is still NOT his GF or LP, I’ll not apologize.
I do hv secret LPs who continue to work. Pls seduce them, be my guest. I don’t care.
I like TY a lot. She wants me to keep her until she gets her degree, about another 4 yrs. I’m not sure. Get her if you can. Harder as she doesn’t work, and if she does work, I’ll walk away from her the next day.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hurricane88
Bro WB
I had been flying frequently to Vietnam for the past 10 years…
Will try to up you again 2nd round soon…hope you know we can up twice per day…
Thanks.
Esteemed bro,
Thanks! Are your frequent flights to Vietnam solely for pleasure? Or both biz and pleasure?
I have never been to Vietnam. Some friends go there regularly and they are very satisfied.
The Viet gals we see in SG are the leftovers, unfortunately. The only Viet gal I ever upped is a French Viet gal from Lido whom I met last yr. She is very fair. Booking $300. ST $600, RTF $500. She is good. 22, 164, natural C, w/ good body n limb proportions.
Can really up rep point again? I tried to up your rep point unsuccessfully.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
naemlo
Why u didn’t say this to me?
Esteemed bro,
He forgot!
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hurricane88
I travel mainly to relax n stretch my retirement fund…love to visit plenty of unspoiled places in Vietnam…a group of us friends started investing in condos…
I get recharged after landing in hcm…
The local Vietnam gals are cmi…if go source can find very decent educated girls…
Can up again after upping 1000 others…that will be 1.5 yrs if up two per day diligently…
Hi esteemed bro,
You’re having a great time!
I must have upped close to 800 bros. It will take me another 3-4 months before I could up you again.
Cheers!
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Good morning!
If you feel uncomfortable approaching a very pretty girl of your type, you’re a weak man. The opposite of a MAN w/ extreme masculine behaviour.
If you feel jealous when your wife/GF/LP tells you she is going to meet an ex BF for lunch, you’re very insecure and needy. You believe that you hv lower value…
If you’re afraid of losing a beloved wife/GF/LP, you will lose her, eventually. This is called a self-fulfilling prophecy. Because your behaviour and body language tell her that you’re NOT good enough for her. You’re a weak, powerless man, a wuss, as far as she is concerned.
I welcome repeated rejections. All my LPs rejected me, initially. And often repeatedly. If they didn’t, I might not want them. My hit rate has been 100% in the last 3-4 yrs. I could only keep a small fraction of all the gals who hv said yes.
I welcome competition too. Because competition gives meaning to success. Otherwise, life is too boring.
Here is an article on the topic of rejection, written by a guru, which I received a yr ago.
There are plenty of guys out there who are total pussies - don’t be one of them.
The reason I’m bringing this up is that a lot of the products and training that are out there today seems to be focusing on some sort of secret weapon to avoid rejection and get her hot before you even speak to her.
That’s great, and some of it actually works.
(And you guys know whenever I find something that works; it ends up in this newsletter for you guys to take advantage of.)
Here’s the thing:
I think too much of that can make you soft.
Always trying to sidestep rejection is just avoiding pain.
But what if an athlete or MMA fighter avoided pain?
…They’d never get any good, and they’d never get stronger.
I’ve talked at length in this newsletter about how I used to get rejected ALL THE TIME by women.
It would be completely normal for me to meet 10 women in a night, get ruthlessly rejected by 2 or 3 of them, but still end up taking home a hot chick by closing time.
For me, rejection is just part of the process. I am not ashamed or embarrassed about the fact that women would reject me every single day that I was doing approaches.
So I’m going to make this e-mail all about blowouts so you can learn to use them to your advantage - and absolutely not be afraid of them.
(Trust me- they’re painless!)
Let me begin by pointing out that EVERYONE is going to get rejected sometimes. I don’t care how good you are; no one can pick up every girl every time.
I frequently see students working on their game, and it’s obvious that they still fear rejection.
Anyway, this irrational fear is the reason that so many guys chase unicorns. They want to get laid and never put in the time of approaching and some of the natural rejection that will come as a result.
Being able to deal with situations that would be embarrassing to most people is a PREREQUISITE to succeeding with women.
That shows that you have BALLS. Women find guys with
social courage to be very attractive.
So forget avoiding rejection.
The goal should be this:
To find out ASAP whether this girl is what you’re looking for. Force the girl to show her true colors.
If your purpose is to SCREEN and EVALUATE the girl, that is something women pick up on. It’s very attractive. It’s a different motivation. You are not motivated by fear of embarrassment.
And you’ll put out a super attractive vibe.
Any comments?
When you wake up in the morning and when you encounter a grp of chio girls, wherever you’re, remind yourself to behave:
As if 100 very pretty ‘dream girls’ of your type are calling you and wanting to make love to you, every day…
Let it become a part of your subconscious mind.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chaoslord
Thanks bro for your advice. I have read the (very long) thread before and you are quite the guru at this! In a land of smoke and mirrors, I know better than to go in with rose tinted glasses.
Everything you say makes sense and you are probably right in general. I am not under any illusion that the VM is any different………………..
I am satisfied for a simple reason……………………
And that is perfectly fine.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chaoslord
A smart lady working in this line would know what to say to each customer to extract maximum rent. I am certain that she knows how to sweet talk her way to what each customer wants to hear.
But as long as she tells me what I want to hear, I don’t care about anything else. I’m here to have fun, not here to find a LT r/s. Getting into a r/s with a WL is one of the worst decision any bro can make in my view.
I have my own qualities and am confidant of my abilities with the opposite gender. ……………………….
Your last sentence strikes home and its exactly what I am going through. I am enjoying the game. Having commitments is actually a perfect wakeup call each time I find myself falling too deep. It’s thanks to bros like you that keeps my feet and head on the ground.
Bro,
Tks for your posts. No such thing as a “Special One,” whether the female is a WL or non-WL. They all get old, get sick and then die.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hurricane88
Great that you had read the other thread in detail…I am not guru but just frequent flier to Vietnam…what captivates me was the vast country and the ppl…
I like quote “My gal is different from other WL”…this is dangerous becos your WL gal is no diff from any other WL…
Even Bro WB recommend if you want any gal from any nationality then best to hunt in SOURCE…still have friends that flew in bi-monthly for past 10 years…
There were quite a few success stories among our friends who married Viet gals and had started families…
I like to quote “If you trust WL then pigs can climb trees”…
Bro, tks for your post. Yeah, if a man wants the best quality gals, he must go to the source. But it will take a lot of time. Damage is abt the same too. I prefer to get THE best I happen to see in SG.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
damong777
My 2 cents on matter
Those ktv u mentioned are only open recently in past 2 years plus. I may be wrong as stopped for some time after 2 years crash course in ktv culture.
And vbs there are well taught ady. Mostly have come to sg on w permit or such where the monthly repayment is not cheap. Hence going St is norm as long as price is right. Friends working know no diff. My previous experiences all gals waitress also know who I find usually. Just bear in mind she is here for $$$ love way low.
U can feel special but question is how can u sure she does not make other feel the same. So take it with a pinch of salt. Maybe she looking for best fish to bait while u r in the loop.
And also down to what u expect out of it first? U are married. R u going to give up your marriage for this gal?
Have u been to her home in Vietnam etc…
My simple advise fnf best. U are getting slowly into kc game with her. Believe me kc with vb not for faint heartened and not for those with family
Seen too families sg broke up over vbs in ktv.
Bro,
Tks for your post. Getting KC-ed by a WL is dangerous to a man’s physical, mental and financial well being. He needs awesome emotional self-mastery to avoid being a victim.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
naemlo
There are a few good examples of samsters marrying WL which I know of but out of 100, only 1 or 2 are happily after.
I rather spend my time n money on 4D.
Bro, tks.
You’re right. Living happily after marrying a WL? Perhaps one percent. How many normal couples live happily after marriage? For the rest of their lives. Maybe 10%?
There was a famous GP in SG, around 60 plus years ago, who married a very young cabaret gal, reportedly aged 17. They appeared to hv lived happily thereafter. Their children are quite brilliant, but a couple of them are homosexuals. I heard he made his money by performing illegal abortions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
aimuon
Bro WB
I really enjoyed your post and bro LDH post below.
It’s harsh reality but makes cow sense.
These gals whether singers, waitress or PR are here for money.
Not the first time and last time, I heard that these girls can earn easuly from Singapore men. Not sure why SIngaporean men labelled as Mr Nice Guy.
I am not sure if I am nice but I will demand to get service at a cheap price if any girls intend to earn my money. I wil pay the price that was fixed and no more extra. I am not sure why men think that paying extra will get more or better services.
There are just too many poor peasants in PRC in the past and not anymore. I was amazed to learn that Vietnam girls are flooding almost every shores which offers them a living. Seems that there will be explosive soon.
Hope you don’t mind me quoting too many posts in your lovely thread.
Please continue your fine effort.
Cheers.
Bro,
Tks for quoting these old posts. Bro LDH’s advice was very sound and discerning.
Most SG men behave like nice guys because they hv a scarcity mindset. They treat these WLs as grand prizes. They get needy and jealous and compete fiercely to win their affections. It’s so pathetic.
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Originally Posted by
Birkin
Bro WB
Jealousy is one of the best tools to use to make a girl jealous. But can also do the reverse.
This method had been used widely and can be effective in testing if the girl was jealous when you started ignoring her and show much attention to other girls. Of course the reverse always true when big ego guy felt jealous when their target girl started talking or behaving intimately with guys.
A girl will never get jealous if she showed no interest or affection to you. Don’t need to use this method on her. Can forget about her.
“Jealousy is an emotion; the term generally refers to the thoughts or feelings of insecurity, fear, concern, and envy over relative lack of possessions, status or something of great personal value, particularly in reference to a comparator.”
Jealousy is not good for guy who are keen to the PLAYER. Guys should not be jealous.
Any comment?
Feel free to post.
Thanks.
Bro,
If a man exhibits any jealousy and neediness, his gal will find him REPULSIVE. period.
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Originally Posted by
quinoagrain
Bro, thanks for reply. You had great taste.
Keep up been young and healthy.
Bro, tks.
Just my type of pussies. One man’s meat is another man’s poison.
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Originally Posted by
pantomime
Bro WB
Your story above is just similar to “pantomine”.
Well done bro, I also do not take “NO” for an answer. Since you had Bao her and why take NO? Your dominance should be respected.
I can imagine what it meant with a beauty lying half naked in bed. Even old man also buay tahan. Really admired your prowess to shoot at your ah pek age. Not sure if you rely in any pill?
Sex is the best antidote for sleep deprivation. Women who can orgasm multiple times will be in slumber quickly. Men too actually sleep very well after sex.
Thank you for posting such anecdote.
Hope to read more from you.
Cheers mate!!
Bro,
Tks for quoting such an old post. My LPs don’t say no to me, only I’m allowed to say NO to them.
I remember bro MillerV. He attended a few of my outings at TAM and Dynasty. And then he disappeared after 2011. I bumped into him unexpectedly in Dec 2016 at Marina Square. I was walking w/ my joint LPs to dinner. Bro MillerV was still very young n handsome, around early 30s?
We exchanged greetings. He had a 8-month-old baby in his arm n he said no more cheonging as he was married. I looked to the right n saw a short n fat woman walking away from me, pushing a baby carriage. I presumed she was his legal wife, I couldn’t see her face. He had good taste n was very selective before. I felt very sorry for him.
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Originally Posted by
chaoslord
I still find it best to keep things transactional on a per visit basis. This way they will only be paid once service is provided and helps to keep standards up as well. Receiving 10 x 300 instead of 1 x 3,000 is more motivational based on human psychology.
Bro, I agree. But that is ST.
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Originally Posted by
chefJustinaKwek
Same, I also do not take “NO” for an answer.
Very nice thread by Bro WB, hope to learn more.
Cheers
Bro, tks.
You’re right. Don’t take NO for an answer. BUt we should say NO much more often.
……………………………..
Good morning to all samsters,
Thank you! What an auspicious day!
“Most SG men behave like nice guys because they hv a scarcity mindset. They treat these WLs as grand prizes. They get needy and jealous and compete fiercely to win their affections. It’s so pathetic.”
I sometimes say the magic words to gals I don’t want to ST or BY. I do that as I learn a lot from their reactions. And I hv the pulse on the market trends n price range. I’m constantly improving.
But some bros get very nervous n insecure because I raise ST or BY question, w/ gals they are chasing haha. I will NEVER say the magic words if I know she is the confirmed GF or LP of a kaki. I know several hundreds of kaki. Oftentimes I won’t know. My sincerest apologies if that happens to one your GFs. But if a kaki is merely chasing a gal, who is still NOT his GF or LP, I’ll not apologize.
I do hv secret LPs who continue to work. Pls seduce them, be my guest. I don’t care.
I like TY a lot. She wants me to keep her until she gets her degree, about another 4 yrs. I’m not sure. Get her if you can. Harder as she doesn’t work, and if she does work, I’ll walk away from her the next day.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
chaoslord
Thanks bro for your advice. I have read the (very long) thread before and you are quite the guru at this! In a land of smoke and mirrors, I know better than to go in with rose tinted glasses.
Everything you say makes sense and you are probably right in general. I am not under any illusion that the VM is any different………………..
I am satisfied for a simple reason……………………
And that is perfectly fine.
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Originally Posted by
chaoslord
A smart lady working in this line would know what to say to each customer to extract maximum rent. I am certain that she knows how to sweet talk her way to what each customer wants to hear.
But as long as she tells me what I want to hear, I don’t care about anything else. I’m here to have fun, not here to find a LT r/s. Getting into a r/s with a WL is one of the worst decision any bro can make in my view.
I have my own qualities and am confidant of my abilities with the opposite gender. ……………………….
Your last sentence strikes home and its exactly what I am going through. I am enjoying the game. Having commitments is actually a perfect wakeup call each time I find myself falling too deep. It’s thanks to bros like you that keeps my feet and head on the ground.
Bro,
Tks for your posts. No such thing as a “Special One,” whether the female is a WL or non-WL. They all get old, get sick and then die.
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Originally Posted by
Hurricane88
Great that you had read the other thread in detail…I am not guru but just frequent flier to Vietnam…what captivates me was the vast country and the ppl…
I like quote “My gal is different from other WL”…this is dangerous becos your WL gal is no diff from any other WL…
Even Bro WB recommend if you want any gal from any nationality then best to hunt in SOURCE…still have friends that flew in bi-monthly for past 10 years…
There were quite a few success stories among our friends who married Viet gals and had started families…
I like to quote “If you trust WL then pigs can climb trees”…
Bro, tks for your post. Yeah, if a man wants the best quality gals, he must go to the source. But it will take a lot of time. Damage is abt the same too. I prefer to get THE best I happen to see in SG.
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Originally Posted by
damong777
My 2 cents on matter
Those ktv u mentioned are only open recently in past 2 years plus. I may be wrong as stopped for some time after 2 years crash course in ktv culture.
And vbs there are well taught ady. Mostly have come to sg on w permit or such where the monthly repayment is not cheap. Hence going St is norm as long as price is right. Friends working know no diff. My previous experiences all gals waitress also know who I find usually. Just bear in mind she is here for $$$ love way low.
U can feel special but question is how can u sure she does not make other feel the same. So take it with a pinch of salt. Maybe she looking for best fish to bait while u r in the loop.
And also down to what u expect out of it first? U are married. R u going to give up your marriage for this gal?
Have u been to her home in Vietnam etc…
My simple advise fnf best. U are getting slowly into kc game with her. Believe me kc with vb not for faint heartened and not for those with family
Seen too families sg broke up over vbs in ktv.
Bro,
Tks for your post. Getting KC-ed by a WL is dangerous to a man’s physical, mental and financial well being. He needs awesome emotional self-mastery to avoid being a victim.
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Originally Posted by
naemlo
There are a few good examples of samsters marrying WL which I know of but out of 100, only 1 or 2 are happily after.
I rather spend my time n money on 4D.
Bro, tks.
You’re right. Living happily after marrying a WL? Perhaps one percent. How many normal couples live happily after marriage? For the rest of their lives. Maybe 10%?
There was a famous GP in SG, around 60 plus years ago, who married a very young cabaret gal, reportedly aged 17. They appeared to hv lived happily thereafter. Their children are quite brilliant, but a couple of them are homosexuals. I heard he made his money by performing illegal abortions.
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Originally Posted by
aimuon
Bro WB
I really enjoyed your post and bro LDH post below.
It’s harsh reality but makes cow sense.
These gals whether singers, waitress or PR are here for money.
Not the first time and last time, I heard that these girls can earn easuly from Singapore men. Not sure why SIngaporean men labelled as Mr Nice Guy.
I am not sure if I am nice but I will demand to get service at a cheap price if any girls intend to earn my money. I wil pay the price that was fixed and no more extra. I am not sure why men think that paying extra will get more or better services.
There are just too many poor peasants in PRC in the past and not anymore. I was amazed to learn that Vietnam girls are flooding almost every shores which offers them a living. Seems that there will be explosive soon.
Hope you don’t mind me quoting too many posts in your lovely thread.
Please continue your fine effort.
Cheers.
Bro,
Tks for quoting these old posts. Bro LDH’s advice was very sound and discerning.
Most SG men behave like nice guys because they hv a scarcity mindset. They treat these WLs as grand prizes. They get needy and jealous and compete fiercely to win their affections. It’s so pathetic.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Birkin
Bro WB
Jealousy is one of the best tools to use to make a girl jealous. But can also do the reverse.
This method had been used widely and can be effective in testing if the girl was jealous when you started ignoring her and show much attention to other girls. Of course the reverse always true when big ego guy felt jealous when their target girl started talking or behaving intimately with guys.
A girl will never get jealous if she showed no interest or affection to you. Don’t need to use this method on her. Can forget about her.
“Jealousy is an emotion; the term generally refers to the thoughts or feelings of insecurity, fear, concern, and envy over relative lack of possessions, status or something of great personal value, particularly in reference to a comparator.”
Jealousy is not good for guy who are keen to the PLAYER. Guys should not be jealous.
Any comment?
Feel free to post.
Thanks.
Bro,
If a man exhibits any jealousy and neediness, his gal will find him REPULSIVE. period.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
quinoagrain
Bro, thanks for reply. You had great taste.
Keep up been young and healthy.
Bro, tks.
Just my type of pussies. One man’s meat is another man’s poison.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
pantomime
Bro WB
Your story above is just similar to “pantomine”.
Well done bro, I also do not take “NO” for an answer. Since you had Bao her and why take NO? Your dominance should be respected.
I can imagine what it meant with a beauty lying half naked in bed. Even old man also buay tahan. Really admired your prowess to shoot at your ah pek age. Not sure if you rely in any pill?
Sex is the best antidote for sleep deprivation. Women who can orgasm multiple times will be in slumber quickly. Men too actually sleep very well after sex.
Thank you for posting such anecdote.
Hope to read more from you.
Cheers mate!!
Bro,
Tks for quoting such an old post. My LPs don’t say no to me, only I’m allowed to say NO to them.
I remember bro MillerV. He attended a few of my outings at TAM and Dynasty. And then he disappeared after 2011. I bumped into him unexpectedly in Dec 2016 at Marina Square. I was walking w/ my joint LPs to dinner. Bro MillerV was still very young n handsome, around early 30s?
We exchanged greetings. He had a 8-month-old baby in his arm n he said no more cheonging as he was married. I looked to the right n saw a short n fat woman walking away from me, pushing a baby carriage. I presumed she was his legal wife, I couldn’t see her face. He had good taste n was very selective before. I felt very sorry for him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chaoslord
I still find it best to keep things transactional on a per visit basis. This way they will only be paid once service is provided and helps to keep standards up as well. Receiving 10 x 300 instead of 1 x 3,000 is more motivational based on human psychology.
Bro, I agree. But that is ST.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chefJustinaKwek
Same, I also do not take “NO” for an answer.
Very nice thread by Bro WB, hope to learn more.
Cheers
Bro, tks.
You’re right. Don’t take NO for an answer. BUt we should say NO much more often.
……………………………..
Good morning to all samsters,
Thank you! What an auspicious day!
“Most SG men behave like nice guys because they hv a scarcity mindset. They treat these WLs as grand prizes. They get needy and jealous and compete fiercely to win their affections. It’s so pathetic.”
I sometimes say the magic words to gals I don’t want to ST or BY. I do that as I learn a lot from their reactions. And I hv the pulse on the market trends n price range. I’m constantly improving.
But some bros get very nervous n insecure because I raise ST or BY question, w/ gals they are chasing haha. I will NEVER say the magic words if I know she is the confirmed GF or LP of a kaki. I know several hundreds of kaki. Oftentimes I won’t know. My sincerest apologies if that happens to one your GFs. But if a kaki is merely chasing a gal, who is still NOT his GF or LP, I’ll not apologize.
I do hv secret LPs who continue to work. Pls seduce them, be my guest. I don’t care.
I like TY a lot. She wants me to keep her until she gets her degree, about another 4 yrs. I’m not sure. Get her if you can. Harder as she doesn’t work, and if she does work, I’ll walk away from her the next day.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
Hurricane88
Bro WB
I had been flying frequently to Vietnam for the past 10 years…
Will try to up you again 2nd round soon…hope you know we can up twice per day…
Thanks.
Esteemed bro,
Thanks! Are your frequent flights to Vietnam solely for pleasure? Or both biz and pleasure?
I have never been to Vietnam. Some friends go there regularly and they are very satisfied.
The Viet gals we see in SG are the leftovers, unfortunately. The only Viet gal I ever upped is a French Viet gal from Lido whom I met last yr. She is very fair. Booking $300. ST $600, RTF $500. She is good. 22, 164, natural C, w/ good body n limb proportions.
Can really up rep point again? I tried to up your rep point unsuccessfully.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
naemlo
Why u didn’t say this to me?
Esteemed bro,
He forgot!
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hurricane88
Bro WB
I had been flying frequently to Vietnam for the past 10 years…
Will try to up you again 2nd round soon…hope you know we can up twice per day…
Thanks.
Esteemed bro,
Thanks! Are your frequent flights to Vietnam solely for pleasure? Or both biz and pleasure?
I have never been to Vietnam. Some friends go there regularly and they are very satisfied.
The Viet gals we see in SG are the leftovers, unfortunately. The only Viet gal I ever upped is a French Viet gal from Lido whom I met last yr. She is very fair. Booking $300. ST $600, RTF $500. She is good. 22, 164, natural C, w/ good body n limb proportions.
Can really up rep point again? I tried to up your rep point unsuccessfully.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
naemlo
Why u didn’t say this to me?
Esteemed bro,
He forgot!
Cheers!
Bro WB