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Originally Posted by
Boarding
Bro WB, thank you and thumbs up to you for guiding newbies here.
Bro,
Thank u for ur support.
……………………………………..
Good morning!
Time flies! Can’t believe I started this thread over 7 years ago. Although I was already a lao chee ko pek back then, I was a greenhorn, having had my first ever BY 37 days earlier. It was a total failure. The doll was HW, a SYT who agreed to BY after 8 1/2 months. HW left me after two weeks. I BY-ed her again briefly in late August that yr. Another failure haha.
I met HW again in Dec 2009 when she tried to intro her best friend for me to BY. Her GF wasn’t my type. But that day HW was the prettiest ever. She was at the peak of her physical beauty as she just turned 22. She was being kept by a rich young man around 31-32 at that time n she broke off all ctc w/ me shortly afterwards.
She broke up w/ her man in Dec 2010.
She didn’t delete my MSN. She contacted me in late Jan 2011 and, shortly thereafter, had become my old lao po until last Oct. We are still friends. She is the one w/ violent orgasms. I hv learned the most from my LT RS w/ her.
I agree that men w/ the dark traits may attract a certain type of women, at least for brief RS. But almost all women would prefer the PRESTIGIOUS MAN or PM, for both brief encounter n LT RS.
What is a PM n why is he most attractive to girls/women? PM is very similar to a badass gentleman. He is better than the so-called Alpha Male.
I hv a slightly different take on the subject which I’ll elaborate. Suffice to say that the PM is not badass enough. I believe in being 90% beast n 10% sweet.
It’s a long article n it behooves you to read it a few times. I’ll only post the Conclusion here.
The Myth of the Alpha Male
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/0...he-alpha-male/
Conclusion
It is neither the alpha nor the beta male that is most desired by women.
Taken together, the research suggests that the ideal man (for a date or romantic partner) is one who is assertive, confident, easygoing, and sensitive, without being aggressive, demanding, dominant, quiet, shy, or submissive. In other words, a prestigious man, not a dominant man.
In fact, it appears that the prestigious man who is high in both assertiveness and kindness is considered the most attractive to women for both short-term affairs and long-term relationships. This research should offer some assurance that the genuinely nice, passionate kid who learns a culturally valued skill can be immensely attractive.
Further, seeking to become a prestigious man is not only the surest route to success with women, but achievement in any area of life.
Thus, I think a much more effective and healthier route for men having difficulty attracting women is not to attempt to cultivate the traits of the stereotypical, dominant “alpha,” but to cultivate the traits of the prestigious man. This means developing a skill that brings value to society, and cultivating a stable sense of identity. Such a route will not only make you more attractive to women, but will also create the most satisfying life for yourself in general. In my view, attempting to don the persona of the “alpha” is analogous to building a house of cards. There’s no stable foundation supporting your worth.
It’s time we shed these black and white categories, and embrace a much more multidimensional concept of masculinity. The most attractive male is really a blend of characteristics, including assertiveness, kindness, cultivated skills, and a genuine sense of value in this world. The true alpha is fuller, deeper, and richer.
Your comments n criticisms will be greatly appreciated!
BTW, I hv a SH outing to Lido tmr, Monday. Again, only one slot left. PM me asap.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Boarding
Bro WB, thank you and thumbs up to you for guiding newbies here.
Bro,
Thank u for ur support.
……………………………………..
Good morning!
Time flies! Can’t believe I started this thread over 7 years ago. Although I was already a lao chee ko pek back then, I was a greenhorn, having had my first ever BY 37 days earlier. It was a total failure. The doll was HW, a SYT who agreed to BY after 8 1/2 months. HW left me after two weeks. I BY-ed her again briefly in late August that yr. Another failure haha.
I met HW again in Dec 2009 when she tried to intro her best friend for me to BY. Her GF wasn’t my type. But that day HW was the prettiest ever. She was at the peak of her physical beauty as she just turned 22. She was being kept by a rich young man around 31-32 at that time n she broke off all ctc w/ me shortly afterwards.
She broke up w/ her man in Dec 2010.
She didn’t delete my MSN. She contacted me in late Jan 2011 and, shortly thereafter, had become my old lao po until last Oct. We are still friends. She is the one w/ violent orgasms. I hv learned the most from my LT RS w/ her.
I agree that men w/ the dark traits may attract a certain type of women, at least for brief RS. But almost all women would prefer the PRESTIGIOUS MAN or PM, for both brief encounter n LT RS.
What is a PM n why is he most attractive to girls/women? PM is very similar to a badass gentleman. He is better than the so-called Alpha Male.
I hv a slightly different take on the subject which I’ll elaborate. Suffice to say that the PM is not badass enough. I believe in being 90% beast n 10% sweet.
It’s a long article n it behooves you to read it a few times. I’ll only post the Conclusion here.
The Myth of the Alpha Male
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/0...he-alpha-male/
Conclusion
It is neither the alpha nor the beta male that is most desired by women.
Taken together, the research suggests that the ideal man (for a date or romantic partner) is one who is assertive, confident, easygoing, and sensitive, without being aggressive, demanding, dominant, quiet, shy, or submissive. In other words, a prestigious man, not a dominant man.
In fact, it appears that the prestigious man who is high in both assertiveness and kindness is considered the most attractive to women for both short-term affairs and long-term relationships. This research should offer some assurance that the genuinely nice, passionate kid who learns a culturally valued skill can be immensely attractive.
Further, seeking to become a prestigious man is not only the surest route to success with women, but achievement in any area of life.
Thus, I think a much more effective and healthier route for men having difficulty attracting women is not to attempt to cultivate the traits of the stereotypical, dominant “alpha,” but to cultivate the traits of the prestigious man. This means developing a skill that brings value to society, and cultivating a stable sense of identity. Such a route will not only make you more attractive to women, but will also create the most satisfying life for yourself in general. In my view, attempting to don the persona of the “alpha” is analogous to building a house of cards. There’s no stable foundation supporting your worth.
It’s time we shed these black and white categories, and embrace a much more multidimensional concept of masculinity. The most attractive male is really a blend of characteristics, including assertiveness, kindness, cultivated skills, and a genuine sense of value in this world. The true alpha is fuller, deeper, and richer.
Your comments n criticisms will be greatly appreciated!
BTW, I hv a SH outing to Lido tmr, Monday. Again, only one slot left. PM me asap.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Good morning!
Several like minded bros hv elected to join my SH outings. Thank you all!
I just posted this on my other thread:
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Originally Posted by
simply2323
Dear Warbird. Really admire your capability to BY these China dolls and having the time to spend with them. Your expenses must be quite high when also visit KTV practically every 2/3 times a week. How did you do it?
Bro,
You can do much better than me if you really want to.
I hv the time because I’m not gainfully employed n don’t run any biz. I hv a little money left because of a lucky investment made decades ago.
Let me recommend a book. How to be Rich by J. Paul Getty. Read it 10 times. Oops, I hv only read it 3 times, I better read it 7 more times…
But whatever you do, make sure you hv
AWESOME EMOTIONAL MASTERY
. If you hv, you will do well in every area of your life, eventually. You will hv money, women n good health to boot.
If a man has very poor emotional mastery, his women will leave him, period. Even if he is rich n famous n the sexiest man alive, like Johnny Depp. Elvis Presley didn’t do much better either. I rest my case.
I hv analysed all my past failures w/ women. The root cause? Poor emotional mastery.
A Lido assistant mummy posted this in her Moments this morning:
千万记住：一个人，如果连自己的情绪都控制不了，即便给你整个世界，你也早晚毁掉一切！早安早 安。
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
maomaoz
hi warbird
if i want to BY a girl in shanghai for 1 week but the standard has to be same if not better than those ktv girls in those high end joints like lido or p8 how much is the market rate?
Hi bro maomaoz,
SH is expensive. You will get prettier n younger gals than you will ever find in SG.
There is a wide range, depending on the gals. And your negotiating skill. For full BY a month of a very pretty n sexy SYT in SH could set you back 50-100K RMB or more, plus condo rental. For just one week BY, the damage could range from 20-50K RMB or more.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
juzz
Bro WB
Picking up your thread after five years.
Thanks for all your eye-opening insights as usual.
Just curious whether you would still be a badass gentleman spending your time and money on BY if your family were with you all the while?
Bro juzz,
Welcome back!
It’s a moot question. I tell my legal wife to stay in America. She will visit my mom in SG once every yr during CNY. I do return to Gotham City three times a year, but most of my time is spent here.
If I don’t spend money on BY-ing SYTs I like, what is the use of money?
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
maomaoz
hi warbird
if i want to BY a girl in shanghai for 1 week but the standard has to be same if not better than those ktv girls in those high end joints like lido or p8 how much is the market rate?
Hi bro maomaoz,
SH is expensive. You will get prettier n younger gals than you will ever find in SG.
There is a wide range, depending on the gals. And your negotiating skill. For full BY a month of a very pretty n sexy SYT in SH could set you back 50-100K RMB or more, plus condo rental. For just one week BY, the damage could range from 20-50K RMB or more.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
juzz
Bro WB
Picking up your thread after five years.
Thanks for all your eye-opening insights as usual.
Just curious whether you would still be a badass gentleman spending your time and money on BY if your family were with you all the while?
Bro juzz,
Welcome back!
It’s a moot question. I tell my legal wife to stay in America. She will visit my mom in SG once every yr during CNY. I do return to Gotham City three times a year, but most of my time is spent here.
If I don’t spend money on BY-ing SYTs I like, what is the use of money?
Cheers!
Bro WB
From my new thread:
Good afternoon,
I’m starting this new thread for like-minded bros to find ‘very attractive ’ gals at high end KTVs. It has been increasingly difficult for me to meet the type of girls I like to ST or BY at budget joints in SG. It’s true that occasional gems may be found at HH sessions at Peace Centre budget joints. In fact, some of the prettier ones there will go on to high end joints for SH. Some singers at small joints also moonlight there for HH. However, it’s very time consuming n the yield has been very low for me.
My taste for dolls is actually not high, it’s just different from most bros. I look at the whole package w/ emphasis on youthfulness n aesthetically pleasing proportions of EVERY body part. I will reject a doll if she has obvious facial surgery, is a smoker or has relatively thick arms, wrists n calves or has any part that is out of proportion to the rest of her. I do make exceptions sometimes because of a doll’s other desirable attributes. A ‘very attractive’ gal to me could be very ugly to u, and vice versa. So don’t mock me. One man’s meat is another man’s poison. Take a look at Arnold Schwarzenegger’s LT mistress and you will know what I mean.
If I meet a rare gem at a budget joint, it’s because her best friend or sister brought her to Sg n she chooses to work at the same joint. At least in her early days or weeks here.
In the whole of 2015, I managed to meet 3 SYTs of my type, after over 150 visits to budget joints at Peace Centre. That was 1 in 50 visits…fortunately, all three of them agreed to BY. One yr 96 became my young lao po. The yr 97 one is still undecided about returning on student visa. I now regret that I didn’t consummate the BY on the third one, a yr 93 doll, because she was a swimmer n her shoulders were slightly broad. She later did quite well at Lido.
Although the majority of girls at high end joints also can’t make it, there are always some gems who are kept by certain mummy groups for their select clients, available only by prebooking. We intend to become these select clients by going there at least once or twice every week. The yield, for me, could be 1 in 5 visits, or 10X more productive than visiting Peace Centre joints. It may actually save time n money for me.
BTW, I do hv many kakis who frequent these high end joints. And they are great pals. But they are drinkers n many also smoke. I can only join them very infrequently.
Where are these high end joints?
I’m familiar only w/ the first two. Standard hours usually from 9:00 PM till 2:30 AM.
We shall limit the number of participants for each outing from 3-5 bros. Expense per pax is approximately $125 (5 bros)-210 (3 bros) if we open a new bottle. Every kaki will share the expenses EQUALLY, except for gals’ tips. Booking a gal is $300 and some gals may demand $500. We can keep the bottle for at least two months. Expense per pax for subsequent visits could be as low as $60-80. BTW, I’m a teetotaller n I’m allergic to cigarette smoke.
My ideal kaki should be 1) financially able to afford to visit these high end joints regularly, 2) light drinkers, 3) willing to smoke outside the room and 4) willing n eager to up the gals of your type there (not in the room please, but at another time outside the KTV). Try not to behave like a girlie man or a eunuch in front of the gal you want to fxxk.
I already hv several kakis who fit the above criteria and we hv been to Lido three times. But I like to hv many more. Unity is strength n power.
If you are interested in joining my SH outings to these high end joints, PM me.
Oh, I’ll still go to peace centre joints 3-4 times a week. To chill n to look-see. Who knows…a doll of my type may appear suddenly haha.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
simply2323
Dear Warbird. Really admire your capability to BY these China dolls and having the time to spend with them. Your expenses must be quite high when also visit KTV practically every 2/3 times a week. How did you do it?
Bro,
You can do much better than me if you really want to.
I hv the time because I’m not gainfully employed n don’t run any biz. I hv a little money left because of a lucky investment made decades ago.
Let me recommend a book. How to be Rich by J. Paul Getty. Read it 10 times. Oops, I hv only read it 3 times, I better read it 7 more times…
But whatever you do, make sure you hv
AWESOME EMOTIONAL MASTERY
. If you hv, you will do well in every area of your life, eventually. You will hv money, women n good health to boot.
If a man has very poor emotional mastery, his women will leave him, period. Even if he is rich n famous n the sexiest man alive, like Johnny Depp. Elvis Presley didn’t do much better either. I rest my case.
I hv analysed all my past failures w/ women. The root cause? Poor emotional mastery.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
simply2323
Dear Warbird. Really admire your capability to BY these China dolls and having the time to spend with them. Your expenses must be quite high when also visit KTV practically every 2/3 times a week. How did you do it?
Bro,
You can do much better than me if you really want to.
I hv the time because I’m not gainfully employed n don’t run any biz. I hv a little money left because of a lucky investment made decades ago.
Let me recommend a book. How to be Rich by J. Paul Getty. Read it 10 times. Oops, I hv only read it 3 times, I better read it 7 more times…
But whatever you do, make sure you hv
AWESOME EMOTIONAL MASTERY
. If you hv, you will do well in every area of your life, eventually. You will hv money, women n good health to boot.
If a man has very poor emotional mastery, his women will leave him, period. Even if he is rich n famous n the sexiest man alive, like Johnny Depp. Elvis Presley didn’t do much better either. I rest my case.
I hv analysed all my past failures w/ women. The root cause? Poor emotional mastery.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Good morning!
Several like minded bros hv elected to join my SH outings. Thank you all!
I just posted this on my other thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by
simply2323
Dear Warbird. Really admire your capability to BY these China dolls and having the time to spend with them. Your expenses must be quite high when also visit KTV practically every 2/3 times a week. How did you do it?
Bro,
You can do much better than me if you really want to.
I hv the time because I’m not gainfully employed n don’t run any biz. I hv a little money left because of a lucky investment made decades ago.
Let me recommend a book. How to be Rich by J. Paul Getty. Read it 10 times. Oops, I hv only read it 3 times, I better read it 7 more times…
But whatever you do, make sure you hv
AWESOME EMOTIONAL MASTERY
. If you hv, you will do well in every area of your life, eventually. You will hv money, women n good health to boot.
If a man has very poor emotional mastery, his women will leave him, period. Even if he is rich n famous n the sexiest man alive, like Johnny Depp. Elvis Presley didn’t do much better either. I rest my case.
I hv analysed all my past failures w/ women. The root cause? Poor emotional mastery.
A Lido assistant mummy posted this in her Moments this morning:
千万记住：一个人，如果连自己的情绪都控制不了，即便给你整个世界，你也早晚毁掉一切！早安早 安。
Cheers!
Bro WB
千万记住：一个人，如果连自己的情绪都控制不了，即便给你整个世界，你也早晚毁掉一切！早安早 安。
Good morning!
I told the Lido mummy I used her quote for SBF.
Conversely,
千万记住：一个人，如果你能够完全控制自己的情绪，即便你现在一无所有， 你终於会拥有一切的！早安早安。
I’m inviting YOU to KTV outings if u are a very light drinker n willing to smoke outside the rm.
I hv a SH outing to Lido this Sat. Confirm ASAP.
Cheers!
Bro WB