Good morning!
A few days ago, I received the following thoughtful n well written PM from an esteemed bro XX who gave his take on my controversial statement that “In a way, every human interaction is a form of business transaction.” I hv his permission to post it here, sans his nick of course.
Hi Warbird,
good to see that you are still alive and kicking and posting.
I do not know if your remember me (i was the chap that asked you advice on getting girls to keep the light on during sex), anyway your pieces have changed me, for better or worst i do not know….
Your topic of relationship being transactions struck a chord with me, and i felt that i have to reply to it.
While most people sweep the topic of relationships being quid pro quo under the carpet, kudos to your for daring to call all relationship business transactions, controversial it may be, but how true it is!
After all
1)why do parents have kids->for love and affection/safeguard against old age
2)why are your friends, friends with you/ why is your GF/wife with you -> for companionship, support and benefits
3)why am i contacting you-> for advice and affirmation
I personally notice that all if not all relationships are good until one party fail to deliver or provide.
As such one can only maintain good relationships only if he understand the brutal and cruel dynamics of it.
“the dealer wants you thinking
That it’s either black or white.
Thank God it’s not that simple”
Hope you can prove me wrong on this though
Anyway do keep up with the honest thought provoking pieces, really makes my day.
( always feel good to have like minded souls)
Cheers,
your slient supporter
Dear bro XX,
Thanks you for ur excellent PM.
I’m afraid I can’t prove u wrong.
“Love” between close family members is supposed to be the strongest, unconditional and everlasting. Especially in Asian families. The so-called Asian values. Think again.
More pain, misery and despondence hv been endured by billions of young men and women and by old people as a result of arranged marriages, in the last 2,000 years. Even emperors of China had little say so regarding his choice of spouse. Even to this day, in most Asian countries, it’s very difficult for young women/men to marry someone they “love” who is not approved by the parents.
A recent example: Death to love: The dark tale behind Farzana’s ‘honour killing’ in Pakistan.
http://www.thestar.com.my/Lifestyle/...g-in-Pakistan/
How about “love” between identical twins who share identical DNA?
http://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2...ars-in-prison/
How many cases of siblings you know who hv fought or are fighting for inheritance?
I rest my case.
Yes, all human interactions r 100% business transactions, including all marriages, BY-ings and STs. You will suffer, sooner or later, if u think “this time it’s different” or “she or he is different.”
Cheers!
Bro WB
Good morning!
A strange thing happened to me recently.
The other day, I was invited by a new grp of friends to DC for HH. I brought my first BAO-ee there. There were already 7 men and perhaps 12 gals in a medium rm. Few of the bros there r samsters.
One gal XX caught my attention. She was sitting to the left of bro K whom I just met for the 1st time. Bro K had another gal, a very tall one, on his right.
I left after just over one hr. To me, XX is perhaps 22-23, very pretty, n looks slutty, fair, with very small bony frame n ample breasts. Beautiful arms n legs which she crossed. Abt 165? Can’t be sure abt her butt either as she never stood up during the entire time I was there. She appears to hv the type of body proportions I covet.
The strange thing is that I consider her the prettiest n most desirable girl I hv SEEN at DC n in n around the entire PC since I met my ’niece’ BB in Dec of 2009.
I kept thinking abt XX…the next morning I called two other friends who were there to enquire abt her to find out if XX is bro K’s GF. They said no, he just met her n he is not interested in her anymore. Great news! I called mummy J immediately n asked for XX. Mummy J didn’t know her, but promised to find her for me.
Last night, I was invited to DC HH again n I brought my young mistress. Earlier Mummy J said no one had seen her before. She even called bro K who didn’t even remember her name! But he definitely met her at DC. I saw Bro K again who had two different gals w/ him. He confirmed what J said.
I’ll find XX. I’m writing this to show that one man’s meat is indeed another man’s poison. The other thing is that when I finally meet her, I may not even like her. It has happened to me many times before. If I never see her again, she will remain beautiful in my mind n I may keep thinking of her, at least for a short time…
Thinking abt her or anyone else is very unwise for me. This brings me to a related subject. Here is an e-mail I just received today which is self explanatory:
#1 Ingredient to Make a Girl Fall in Love with You
Hi Bro Warbird,
How to Finally Nail that Hard to Get Girl
There is a specific process a woman goes through when she’s falling in love with you…
I call it a “Love Loop” because its like an OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) where her thoughts keep moving toward YOU.
Its like you “hijack” her mind.
And the more she tries to fight it, the faster and harder she falls for you.
And there is one single ingredient that activates the entire process:
“Irrational Attention”
Listen closely to what I’m about to say, because when you ‘get this” you can use it seduce classmates, co-workers, cashiers, ex girlfriends, women you meet online, female friends, even that hard to get girl all your friends are drooling over…
Simply because…
If you can get a girl thinking about you when you’re not around… You can make her to fall in love with you…
Attention = Attachment
Attention = Attachment, the more time she spends thinking about you the more attached to you she becomes.
It doesn’t matter if she thinks you’re cool, how good looking you are, what kind of job you have, or even how good of a “talker” you are…
The only thing that matters is that her brain is firing off thoughts about YOU… They don’t even have to be positive thoughts.
This is why sometimes a girl will be constantly talking about how much she hates a guy… yet she’ll wind up dating him or sleeping with him.. because she’s thinking about him so much she convinces herself she’s falling in love with him.
Its a very simple law of science. The more you think about someone, the more you get attached to them.
You’ve probably felt that way about a girl… Like she “Hijacked” your mind… And when you were away from her you felt an unbearable tension… (It sucks, I know.)
The reason for this is “Attachment” leads to “Psychic Tension.” She’s thinking about YOU so much that she begins to feel a physical need to see you. Just to release the tension.
Fortunately, there is an odd, but extremely effective “Mind Game” you can use on a girl that will sneak into her mind and have her thinking about you constantly. It basically “scrambles” her brain until she’s convinced that she’s in love with you…………………………………….
Make it happen!
Mr. XYZ
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Originally Posted by
PeteTsang69
good one bro…
so what is this
“Mind Game”
….?
… a very learned fellow well versed in human emotions and relations observed the same phenomenon …. heheh
… am actually applying it of sorts … method requires patience which is not my virtue …
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/23...df6993a1cd.jpg
Bro,
Give her both positive AND negative emotions, make her think abt u…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
AAconnection
Bro Warbird,
This happen to me when I was at POMO a petite girl age around 22 was a distance away from me and my intuition straight away sense that something to hunt. She wore a simple blue demin jean and just a white T shirt walk toward me, I was immediately attracted by her or another word Hijack by her. I was thinking how to break the ice to talk to her but no opportunity to warrant me, so I observed her she look lost and was looking for something later she walk in the direction towards Dhoby Ghuat without any reason I just follow her from a distance hoping that I strike an opportunity to talk to
her. Irrationally, I just follow her from a distance like a fool knowing that is wasting of time and chances of getting her is zero but I just follow because I like her. In the end I could not catch up with her she moves very swiftly like a fairy and I gave up. To me is not my mind is being Hijack but my Soul too.
hahahaha…
Bro,
When she looked lost, you should hv walked up to her from the side n offered ur help…
Yes, she has ‘hijacked’ ur mind.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
henabi
just one question………………..
Do any of you bring them on overseas trip? or even… let’s say when they return to Thailand or Vietnam or China…
do you specifically fly over to visit them?
The reason I am asking is because recently I got to know a Viet girl ………………….wechat acc and started chatting ever since…
Currently she is back in HCM. Plus I fly to HCM and Hanoi frequently due to Business. My next trip is end of this month… so just wanna find out whether any seniors here do visit them in their hometown???
pls don’t flame me… because I rarely visit these places, and this is my first time i met a KTV girl who is willing to be friends
Bro henabi,
Yes, I hv met girls in Hong Kong n Beijing many times, not in their hometowns. Likewise, they hv come here n to a certain M’sian city (where I hv many relatives n friends).
I don’t meet a girl in her hometown unless I can trust her 100%.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
besafe
I remember many years back, I was smitten by a ktv girl. She was caught in a raid and was deported………………She did not asked me for any money, but I did slip some money about $2k into her luggage without her noticing. We continue to meet for a few times over a 3 year period. Eventually, I stopped contacting when she told me she is getting married.
Bro. Be careful going up to meet her in her home town. Choose a neutral city.
Bro besafe,
You’re a very romantic person.
I don’t get smitten, I get lustful instantly, I get very primal n animalistic, but I try to mix it w/ some playful energy so that I won’t appear too slimy n creepy.
I remember 5 yrs ago, when I had an outing to TAM 1st fl, I was lustful over a very pretty girl. An esteemed bro who was w/ me had this advice: With this one, you must go slow. Get to know her first, after a few months, you may propose BY.
I proposed BY on my third meeting n she accepted haha. Now I propose BY within 60 minutes, sometimes 60 secs, of my first meeting w/ a girl I really like.
The commonly held belief that the more attractive a girl the more time u hv to spend “romancing” her n be “nice” to her, is completely wrong. The more attractive a girl, the sooner u must show ur sexual interests n mojo!
It works even if she is a non-WL. Your body language n voice must be confident, relaxed, masculine n playful.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
justl00king
Bro, can advise why is it not good to meet in her home town?
I too was smitten with a prc and she asked me to go visit her. After consideration, I decided to proceed.
She drove a nice car to come pick me at airport and I stayed at her home. She stays alone in a nice condo. She eventually got married but still requests to meet whenever possible.
Thanks bro.
Bro justl00king,
You’re another romantic person.
Meeting someone u don’t know well in China or Vietnam is risky. Worse if that someone is male…
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
PeteTsang69
thanks…got it
i can see how a real player, thats not me, can intentionally play hard ball giving -ve emotions to win over a gal …
am too soft, i am intentionally trying only to give +ve emotions to my target … now need to mixed it up with some -ve ones …will try it out
Bro PeteTsang69,
You’re basically a nice guy.
Arousing or evoking negative emotions in a girl, whenever appropriate, will greatly increase her attraction for u.
Girls r repulsed by men who r too nice, too agreeable, too predictable n who try to suck up to them.
Another thing. Be very relaxed n comfortable when you say NO. Be playful, even jovial hahaha.
No to an gift which is too expensive, No to request to drive her to the airport, No to a loan…
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
henabi
Interested to know too… why?
Bro,
You could be robbed or kidnapped or murdered.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
henabi
just one question………………..
Do any of you bring them on overseas trip? or even… let’s say when they return to Thailand or Vietnam or China…
do you specifically fly over to visit them?
The reason I am asking is because recently I got to know a Viet girl ………………….wechat acc and started chatting ever since…
Currently she is back in HCM. Plus I fly to HCM and Hanoi frequently due to Business. My next trip is end of this month… so just wanna find out whether any seniors here do visit them in their hometown???
pls don’t flame me… because I rarely visit these places, and this is my first time i met a KTV girl who is willing to be friends
Bro henabi,
Yes, I hv met girls in Hong Kong n Beijing many times, not in their hometowns. Likewise, they hv come here n to a certain M’sian city (where I hv many relatives n friends).
I don’t meet a girl in her hometown unless I can trust her 100%.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
besafe
I remember many years back, I was smitten by a ktv girl. She was caught in a raid and was deported………………She did not asked me for any money, but I did slip some money about $2k into her luggage without her noticing. We continue to meet for a few times over a 3 year period. Eventually, I stopped contacting when she told me she is getting married.
Bro. Be careful going up to meet her in her home town. Choose a neutral city.
Bro besafe,
You’re a very romantic person.
I don’t get smitten, I get lustful instantly, I get very primal n animalistic, but I try to mix it w/ some playful energy so that I won’t appear too slimy n creepy.
I remember 5 yrs ago, when I had an outing to TAM 1st fl, I was lustful over a very pretty girl. An esteemed bro who was w/ me had this advice: With this one, you must go slow. Get to know her first, after a few months, you may propose BY.
I proposed BY on my third meeting n she accepted haha. Now I propose BY within 60 minutes, sometimes 60 secs, of my first meeting w/ a girl I really like.
The commonly held belief that the more attractive a girl the more time u hv to spend “romancing” her n be “nice” to her, is completely wrong. The more attractive a girl, the sooner u must show ur sexual interests n mojo!
It works even if she is a non-WL. Your body language n voice must be confident, relaxed, masculine n playful.
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
justl00king
Bro, can advise why is it not good to meet in her home town?
I too was smitten with a prc and she asked me to go visit her. After consideration, I decided to proceed.
She drove a nice car to come pick me at airport and I stayed at her home. She stays alone in a nice condo. She eventually got married but still requests to meet whenever possible.
Thanks bro.
Bro justl00king,
You’re another romantic person.
Meeting someone u don’t know well in China or Vietnam is risky. Worse if that someone is male…
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
PeteTsang69
thanks…got it
i can see how a real player, thats not me, can intentionally play hard ball giving -ve emotions to win over a gal …
am too soft, i am intentionally trying only to give +ve emotions to my target … now need to mixed it up with some -ve ones …will try it out
Bro PeteTsang69,
You’re basically a nice guy.
Arousing or evoking negative emotions in a girl, whenever appropriate, will greatly increase her attraction for u.
Girls r repulsed by men who r too nice, too agreeable, too predictable n who try to suck up to them.
Another thing. Be very relaxed n comfortable when you say NO. Be playful, even jovial hahaha.
No to an gift which is too expensive, No to request to drive her to the airport, No to a loan…
Cheers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
henabi
Interested to know too… why?
Bro,
You could be robbed or kidnapped or murdered.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chenzong
Sometimes I cannot help but wonder if Singaporeans have been staying in a safe city for so long that we have lost our sense of danger.
Bro chenzong,
Personal safety is most important. Otherwise I would’ve moved to China yrs ago. So many pretty SYTs there waiting for me to BY…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
justl00king
Thanks bro warbird for the kind advice.
I had actually known her for some months while she’s in SG.
Did consider the risks that u mentioned, but I was smitten with her and basically the small head ruled my decision to proceed.
U have a nice day bro.
Bro, you’re most welcome!
Must consider the safety of the small head first haha.
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Originally Posted by
besafe
Bro WB,
It was pure lust that caused me to seek her out.
You are absolutely right. Trust no one especially a ktv girl.
They are habitual liars.
Cheers.
Bro besafe,
Many men r pathological liars too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
PeteTsang69
hahaha bro …. i get your style … be more debonair like 007 …
Bro,
Maybe Humphrey Bogart w/o the smoking n hard liquor haha.
Cheers!
Bro WB
………………………………………..
Good morning!
A brief FR, but w/ full disclosure of expenses, on our outing last night to TAM 3rd fl HH in rm 11.
There were 7 of us: Bros Kangxi, K, S, DA, KA, SO n Warbird.
Rm 11 is medium in size n accommodated 7 men n 7 girls comfortably. By the end of the session, the half bttle of Martell still has more than 1/4 left!
Rm charge was $142, tips for mummy H n 3 waiters $85. I tipped a bit more as I told the waiters not to pour liquor freely hahaha. BTW, this rm is larger than some medium-sized rm on 6th n 7th fl at Peace Centre.
Expense per pax for the 4 bros who attended before, $20.
Expense per pax for the 3 new bros, $50.
Even the ultra frugal bro S is very satisfied because two HH outings to a TAM joint has cost just $85. I doubt anyone can beat me on my relentless reduction on friction cost haha.
My new rules of conduct: No excessive drinking n those bros who smoke must do so OUTSIDE the rm.
All bros were happy as they all got their type of gals. I called my mistress TH, after getting ctc of two girls. One girl YK looked quite stunning. Looked like half Ang Moh, very fair, abt 172, 52-53Kg? Added her Wechat. Her 素颜 pics looked less stunning this morning haha. Boobs only B? But worth a second look. Maybe ST or short term BY?
The other one YM is 168 Dongbei girl, slim n proportionate. She is OK w/ ST.
BTW, I sat next to a new bro KA, an institutional trader, who told me that he had been cheated by bro Janson for 50K. It happened abt 2 yrs ago.
Bro Janson also tried to con me of 48K last yr. Of course I didn’t give him a penny. He is a compulsive gambler n a pathological liar.
Conclusion: The average quality of girls at TAM joints still better than Peace Centre’s.
Cheers!
Bro WB
One other thing.
There is a 20 yo Sichuan gal MN who keeps asking me to intro a SG man to BY her n her good fren who is also 20.
MN is only 160 (B boobs) n her fren 155 (natural D). They r pretty SYTs but not my type as I prefer much taller gals.
I met MN before when she accompanied AL here 1 1/2 yrs ago. AL is 172.
MN n her fren r not WLs n they r asking only 5K SGD (they wanted more but I said too expensive) each per month to BY them. They could come here on visitor pass.
PM me if you’re interested. BTW, I’m not an OKT n my service is FREE.
Cheers!
Bro WB
Quote:
Originally Posted by
chenzong
Sometimes I cannot help but wonder if Singaporeans have been staying in a safe city for so long that we have lost our sense of danger.
Bro chenzong,
Personal safety is most important. Otherwise I would’ve moved to China yrs ago. So many pretty SYTs there waiting for me to BY…
Quote:
Originally Posted by
justl00king
Thanks bro warbird for the kind advice.
I had actually known her for some months while she’s in SG.
Did consider the risks that u mentioned, but I was smitten with her and basically the small head ruled my decision to proceed.
U have a nice day bro.
Bro, you’re most welcome!
Must consider the safety of the small head first haha.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
besafe
Bro WB,
It was pure lust that caused me to seek her out.
You are absolutely right. Trust no one especially a ktv girl.
They are habitual liars.
Cheers.
Bro besafe,
Many men r pathological liars too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
PeteTsang69
hahaha bro …. i get your style … be more debonair like 007 …
Bro,
Maybe Humphrey Bogart w/o the smoking n hard liquor haha.
Cheers!
Bro WB
………………………………………..
Good morning!
A brief FR, but w/ full disclosure of expenses, on our outing last night to TAM 3rd fl HH in rm 11.
There were 7 of us: Bros Kangxi, K, S, DA, KA, SO n Warbird.
Rm 11 is medium in size n accommodated 7 men n 7 girls comfortably. By the end of the session, the half bttle of Martell still has more than 1/4 left!
Rm charge was $142, tips for mummy H n 3 waiters $85. I tipped a bit more as I told the waiters not to pour liquor freely hahaha. BTW, this rm is larger than some medium-sized rm on 6th n 7th fl at Peace Centre.
Expense per pax for the 4 bros who attended before, $20.
Expense per pax for the 3 new bros, $50.
Even the ultra frugal bro S is very satisfied because two HH outings to a TAM joint has cost just $85. I doubt anyone can beat me on my relentless reduction on friction cost haha.
My new rules of conduct: No excessive drinking n those bros who smoke must do so OUTSIDE the rm.
All bros were happy as they all got their type of gals. I called my mistress TH, after getting ctc of two girls. One girl YK looked quite stunning. Looked like half Ang Moh, very fair, abt 172, 52-53Kg? Added her Wechat. Her 素颜 pics looked less stunning this morning haha. Boobs only B? But worth a second look. Maybe ST or short term BY?
The other one YM is 168 Dongbei girl, slim n proportionate. She is OK w/ ST.
BTW, I sat next to a new bro KA, an institutional trader, who told me that he had been cheated by bro Janson for 50K. It happened abt 2 yrs ago.
Bro Janson also tried to con me of 48K last yr. Of course I didn’t give him a penny. He is a compulsive gambler n a pathological liar.
Conclusion: The average quality of girls at TAM joints still better than Peace Centre’s.
Cheers!
Bro WB
One other thing.
There is a 20 yo Sichuan gal MN who keeps asking me to intro a SG man to BY her n her good fren who is also 20.
MN is only 160 (B boobs) n her fren 155 (natural D). They r pretty SYTs but not my type as I prefer much taller gals.
I met MN before when she accompanied AL here 1 1/2 yrs ago. AL is 172.
MN n her fren r not WLs n they r asking only 5K SGD (they wanted more but I said too expensive) each per month to BY them. They could come here on visitor pass.
PM me if you’re interested. BTW, I’m not an OKT n my service is FREE.
Cheers!
Bro WB
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Originally Posted by
OceanLi
Kudos to WB, this thread is longlift ….. haha.
Actual facts that most gal who claimed they are from Chengdu thesedays. Well, they are from the 2nd or 3rd tier incorporated county.
In fact, if you chat with them and with some historic understanding you will know that they are not the authentic Chengdu Breed.
Its just like small reddot, the boundary redraw and remap.
Cheers,
OL
Bro,
These gals r not from Chengdu.
Cheers!
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Good afternoon!
I hv received a 2nd PM from bro XX. He is the bro who concurred with my statement that “all human interactions are business transactions.”
“Hi bro
Nice to see my post on your thread, sure stroked my ego haha.
Regarding your reply, how sobering and cruel truth is…. Yet how many people truly grasp the implications of this “noble” truth?
Given your answer, concepts such as unconditional love, loyalty, friendships, etc are all nothing but figments of imagination and delusions….
Understanding is probably the easiest part, acceptance is another
hurdle and embracement is probably the hardest, don’t all of us wish to be intoxicated by the romantic notions of “true” love and loyalty?
“For of men(be it friends or family) it may generally be affirmed, that they are thankless, fickle, false studious to avoid danger, greedy of gain, devoted to you while you are able to confer benefits upon them, and ready, as I said before, while danger is distant, to shed their blood, and sacrifice their property, their lives, and their children for you; but in the hour of need they turn against you.”
Bro if i may be so bold as to ask, how do you form deep and close relations with other given the mercenary nature of people, hypocrisy and futility of it all?
Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards,
Your nihilist supporter”
Dear bro XX,
Thank u for your comments n questions.
Is there unconditional love? Selfless love for another person? Really? Actually “loving” someone makes one feels good n it’s all abt oneself.
Will you “love” your son the same way if you find out that he is not your own flesh and blood? Will you fall in love with a girl if she is very fat, hideously ugly and deformed?
Let’s assume that you’re a rich, handsome, healthy, well educated n heterosexual young man of 25. You’re in love w/ a beautiful SYT, your dream girl, who also loves u deeply. If she has an accident tomorrow, her face is grotesquely disfigured n she can’t move her legs forever, will u still love her n take care of her until u die at a ripe old age? And never, ever make love to another girl? I seriously doubt that. Your family will try to talk u out of it. Even if u answer yes, it’s still abt u. Somehow u feel good abt yourself and/or u believe in Karma…and you may even commit suicide w/ her. In either case, I think you’re mentally sick haha.
What if you’re on honeymoon w/ your beautiful wife n she suffers the above disfigurement n injuries? What has changed? Would u act differently because she is your legal wife?
IMHO, the so-called unconditional love is still selfish. You get something in return. I’ll still consider it a business transaction. You give something n you receive something.
This romantic, unconditional love and apparently altruistic acts have been celebrated by poetry n literature in every culture. But the truth is not so romantic.
By understanding true human nature n by being brutally honest abt my intentions, desires n mission, I feel that I hv deepened my RS w/ all those who r close to me. It’s give and take, I give something and I receive something. Yin and Yang, negatives charges balanced by positive charges, action and reaction are equal and opposite, cause and effect, Karma…everything must be a fair business exchange.
Those who hope to get or have gotten something for nothing will be very disappointed and very sorry, sooner or later hahaha. This is a certainty. The universe must be in equilibrium.
If I give advice abt certain subjects I’m good at, free of charge and w/o expecting any rewards, I’m doing it because I feel good abt myself. And I feel good abt helping others. I’m happy n others r happy. I’m happy when I see others doing well. It’s still abt me. It’s still a fair business transaction.
Cheers!
Bro WB