- I am young man (of course … relative to them) and that I should reward myself at their expense. The Elders giving to Junior a special treat. They put it that I must subsidized Mistress as it is a “gift” from friends and to refuse is tantamount to not respecting the intent and friendship behind the gesture..
- To my objections that Xin2 may not want to be treated like a chattel, they actually made a call to Xin2 (on speaker phone) in everybody’s presence (we had lunch in a private room) and repeated this ‘indecent proposal’.
- Mike also tried to playfully use emotional blackmail by using such psychological tactics as presenting Xin2 a ‘second hand good’ from him and that how come I can accept other gals that other men touched but not one that is touched by him.
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All three mentioned that by accepting temporary ownership, I am doing Terrence a favour as it will prevent other people from BY Xin2 in the interim. (“Come on, you are actually doing a favour for a friend and have fun doing it in the process – a perfect win-win scenario)
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Terrence also reiterated that Xin2 Going through my “training” actually makes it better for himself. I do the “hard” work and he enjoys the spoils. I weakly replied that Mike had already trained her. But I was told that my methods are superior and that my stamina is better as I was younger. (Note that use of “older”/being more senior can be twisted to an advantage!)
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Terrence also mentioned that if I get too attached to Xin2 subsequently, he will back off and let me have her. We all know Terrence style, always go for quickie relationships.
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Do u let ur mistress know that u r still hunting n/or bonking other gals?
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When u go to KTVs, do u bring her along sometimes? Actually, she could be an ally in convincing other chio gals that u r a good man who will take care of them.
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Do u try to KC her?
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What do u do if she falls for u?
- It frankly does not matter in a Patron based arrangement whether you tell it to your mistress or not. You should be empowered to tell her if you want or obscure the fact if you so choose.
- Yes, another women if the perfect ‘wingman’ or wing person to convince other girls of your desirability. However, I note that you have already another person (as in your “Picking Up girls Outside of KTV thread) so this point is moot presently.
- & 4) No worries about KC and/or JJ falling for you. In fact it would be desirous for her to do to fall insanely in love with you (at least initially) as it will add a lot to the Love Wanyang element (lovey dovey) in the relationship.
- It is indeed my pleasure to introduce JJ to you. I am glad that you have taken action – that is the most important thing. Also you must know that I am not the ‘dog in the manger’ type – keep for myself even when I don’t have the bandwidth to handle additional ‘responsibilities’. Also I only introduce someone that I myself would take without hesitation.
- I will talk a little about accommodation very soon. I have got several brothers here who are really enthralled with the concept of the Love Nest!
- I had a wonderful time in Hong Kong Macau – some tears too! Paeng, my Thai mistress, actually proposed to me!
- No idea on Xin2 situation as I did not contact any of the principal players during my trip.
- For great sexual experience to happen: the girl(s), copulation activity, time, situation/context and place/venue are important variables. In general we seek to control all these variables so that you can take charge of your love life and define it in the terms of how you want it to be. (Paradox here: we even ‘plan’ for spontaneous fun!).
- Assuming a budget Love Nest situation, please remember that in the cost sharing of the apartment, you are not only living with your mistress but also with your buddies (I call them co-landlords) and their mistress/girl friends as well.
- For my present Love Nests arrangement, my fellow co-landlords relationship arrangement with me is more than three years already. During this time, I have yet to experience a single problem with any of them. In fact, we got on so well, that one fella wanted to me to create another team of co-Landlords with me because he wanted to have another girl friend. Guess I inspired him with my lifestyle.
- In general, tidy, easy going persons who are not terribly calculative are the best co-landlord partners. This principle is analogous to finding a good room mate.
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Possessive and jealous co-landlords are strictly no-no.
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Always have some house rules. Make sure that you yourself can abide by this. Make the rules fair.
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Collect on months rent from co-landlords in advance and/or always ensure timeliness in your paying your share of the rent.
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Always check all records – from the girls to the co-landlords. Make sure that everything is in order.
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The Project will run for only ten days. It will end on 15 July 2009 midnight Singapore time.
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The budget I set is an apartment of three rooms: about $800 per person per month for the normal room and $1100 for the master bedroom. All rooms are to be air conditioned.
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The person who wants the Master bed rooms pays $1100. He also pays 40% of the utilities bills with the other two sharing the other 60% on a half and half basis (i.e. the other two co-landlords pay 30% of the bill each).
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The period of commitment is tied with the lease arrangement. If you break up with your current squeeze, the onus is on you to find another one quickly because you will need to uphold your end of the accommodation arrangement.
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Read carefully my budget Masterstroke regarding accommodation. Whether you do a co-sharing of rental with your mistress or with your girlfriend is immaterial. You must however communicate to her the purpose of this Love Nest explicitly. No prevarications putting on euphemisms about the accommodation. Tell it as it is- a private Hotel 81 among “friends”.
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Be as objective and fair as possible regarding your character as well as your ‘significant other’. If you are a fuss pot, please look no further. We will be wasting each other time. Also look into your mistress’ character. If she is the difficult sort (with you the only one who can tolerate her), please do not even consider joining in this project.
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At the outset, no visitors are allowed. Of course this rule can be amended once the actual co-landlords get together and define who can or can’t visit the Love Nest.
- Please indicate in your PM whether you are willing to be the project leader for taking up the main lease with the actual owner. i.e. the main person who signs the lease agreement with owner and collects the rent from the other co-landlords. The project leader gets first refusal rights regarding the master bedroom.
- In the interest of transparency, I myself may be part of on the project* as co-landlord.
- While I will help to match potential co-landlords, the onus is entirely up to the team members to make it work.
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This is a social experiment of sorts – it’s the first time I use this internet platform to try and organize a Love Nest. Things may and will likely go wrong. I am not responsible whatsoever with the consequence with regards to the Great Experiment.
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In order to make for as perfect match as possible, please share with me (through the special email address I will give you via PM) as much details as possible with regards to yourself and your girlfriend and mistress.
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I have no personal gain from this Great Experiment except for the psychic satisfaction that I helped someone in creating joie de vivre in his life (the Joy of living).
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As I cannot ascertain on the authenticity of the information I receive. My role is just to put interested co-landlords together and hopefully a great friendship is forged among the like minded*** co-landlords of the Love Nest.
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The choice in the use of property agents and/or third party agencies is strictly between prospective co-landlords. I have no role in it. In fact, in the interest of being transparent I will NOT recommend any third party to the group.
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I invite comments and feedback on this. Finding co-landlords via this modus operandi is my first time too!
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Buying that phone will not give you that extra credit. Gifts (especially one that she requests) cannot buy her appreciation nor make that perfunctory sex any better.
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Also note that she will make the same request to many other brothers simultaneously in the hope that at least one person would accede to her request (or demands).
- Another pschological trick that these damsels like to employ is when they thank you for the mobile phone gift, she will make it sound as if she is doing you a favour by accepting your gift (and by implication not from others who also offers her the same).
- I have long been fascinated whether the girls themselves are aware of the inherent trickery and the psychological intricacies involved in such manipulation.
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Originally Posted by
warbird
…Sometimes life is unfair: If I only had 20% of ur charm n charisma, 10% of ur physique n 5% of ur money….
My experience is also laughable as my first visit to a KTV was Sep last yr.
…….
What bro justime meant is that he is taking supplements n herbs which boost the production of nitric oxide in his penile blood vessels…
Cheers!
Hi Warbird, you are much too kind, way way too kind … but 5% of my money??? With 5% of my money, you can’t even afford to BY a 45 year old WL from Deskar Road …granny droopy tits and all!
Thanks for the helping to clarify about “Nitric Oxide”. Its exactly what I meant. I don’t want to plug too much about specific brands in this thread so I intentionally left it vague (too vague I guess - apologies!).
For those brothers interested to find out about “Nitric Oxide”, do Google it, you will find loads interesting informatioin there. And you can get a lot of Nitric Oxide based supplements right here in Singapore OTC (Over The Counter).
Reality Blog Update: Terrence and Xin2 …. “that’s what friends are for”
(Part 1):
Readers of this thread will undoubtedly know that Bog updates sometimes move slowly. The Real Time in Real Life as opposed to television viewing ‘reality’ often does not run on scheduling timetable requirement. So why does this Reality Blog come in so quickly after my earlier update? It is because of another unexpected and unprecedented development and has now taken a soap opera like complexion in the story arc.
(This happened on Tuesday June 30 around 1 pm)
Take a read back if you have forgotten the story and issues of the Terrence & Xin2 reality blog. It tells in real-life / ‘real-time’ story of Mistress transferring activities among friends (and the attendant ‘ethical’ issues involved).
After nearly a fortnight of not having everyone present at same table, the entire members of the ‘Mistress Brother’ finally came together today for lunch cum tête-à-tête (commonly known here as “liao tian” or TCSS) session at a Chinese restaurant.
After discussing the economy and some business specifics, the topic invariably came to sex and girls.
Jus, as per the earlier reality blog, then told his brothers about Xin2 asking him to communicate to Terrence about her purported acceptance of his offer. Jus also brought in the fact that Xin2 had jokingly mentioned that he should replace Terrence should Terrence not take up the offer.
Terrence reaction surprised Jus. Instead of feeling affronted or even slighted at Xin2 suggestion, he commends that it is indeed a good idea. Terrence mentioned that he did not approach Xin2 to follow up on his proposal because he is actually busy ‘mistressing’ another girl from Macau KTV. In addition, he is also inundated with work after coming back from the Middle East. (I have purportedly met this girl but the impression I have of this “Macau KTV” girl is vague).
Jus replied that he is cash strapped and have little bandwidth and stamina due to his latest “acquisition” of XH.
Now comes the interesting bit: Terrence then offers to pay half of the $6, 000 retainer fee for Jus to temporarily take custody of Xin2 until he has more time in his hand- estimated to be one to two months.
Mike joined in the fray by proffering to top up an additional $1, 500 and Hua later re-joined to provide further $1, 000 subsidies for this ‘venture’. In effect, Jus now needs to only ‘chute’ a token $500 monthly for him “enjoy” Xin2’s exclusive company for a period of time (of about one to two months).
Knowing Jus occasional penchant to use football analogy, they mentioned that it is like players on loan to another club with Terrence still holding the players rights and the recipient club paying the salary. (Andriy Shevchenko).
Implicit in the deal is that they reckoned that I would “train” her so that Terrence would reap a greater benefit later when my custody period ends.
Please note that this discussion is not made under a high pressured business scenario but rather in the informal context of friends persuading another.
(To be continued …)
[B]Reality Blog Update: Terrence & Xin2: “That’s What Friends Are For!” [/B
](Part 2)
I have to admit that I was a little surprised at the turn of event. Also I was a tempted on some level at the very compelling offer. Xin2 is definitely very pleasant to the eye and has a generally demure personality (as evinced by her acceptance of Mike’s decision to end the relationship and her leaving of his apartment without undue fuss). Yet there is an underlying “wild and adventurous” streak about her. And dam, her skin is silky smooth …
Other points they made to compel me to accept this “once in a life-time offer:
Remember that I am the only one amongst them who has the most qualms over such a transfer. (Hua’s reservations on the issue are only minimal at best. And even then in this instance, he is actively inveigling me for my acceptance).
Xin2 accepted it without hesitation. She even added for not to delay and to start tomorrow if possible.
(I was quite at a lost for words during the call. A commingling of different emotions had swept me during the call that rendered me a relative mute:
Surprised (at the offer – caught me off guard),
A little stirring of the lusty loins (in Sexpecations of a good screw … dam that is one smooth skin she got),
Flattered (that Xin2 ‘like’ me to certain degree),
Honored and touched that my friends would gift me this little present
Confused (over the ethical issues)
Afraid (of the implications that might affect our friendship)
This tactic did not work on me of course. I twisted around to say that if Xin2 so sticky that Mike has to ‘release’ her, why then foist this “burden” on me.
We need not talk about whether the subsidy still applies. It is understood that I will have to carry on the burden of finance myself if this situation happens.
There was no decision made during this lunch. It seem funny that a blog about Terrence and Xin2 had transmogrified into one about me.
At the time of writing this blog, I feel that I
will most likely decline
the offer although a part of me is seriously tempted to take it up. (Even as I write this, I can feel my little pecker down below screaming to “take the bladdy offer!” …dam that flawless porcelain skin!)
I invite your views please!
//// A Small Announcement ////////
There might a a short lull in terms of my contribution to this thread for about 6 days starting from tomorrow. I need to fly urgently to Hong Kong for a business negotiation and then followed by a couple of days R&R at Macau (where I will inevitably contribute to Venetian’s coffers again - yet to win even a single cent at that dam place!).
Anyway, I shall get my Thai mistress, Paeng (Thai for “powder”) to keep me company in my Macau sojourn. (Been nearly three months since I last met her).
In my ‘absence’, please do keep the thread going if you can. Continue with questions, comments and personal stories. I really love to hear from you guys. I promise to ‘catch up’ on each and every posting made during my absence (and provide any relevant feedback/views) when I get back.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
warbird
My questions for bro justime:
Hi Warbird, wanted to frame this reply before my trip but was in rush.
Not sure if the questions you asked is still germane to your present circumstance but I feel that the issues you raised is ‘timeless’ in many aspects so I will just present a condensed version in the interest of brothers who are interested to learn more about Art of BY.
At any rate, Warbird, you are now (or soon to be) operating with new knowledge and concepts on BY wherein you will be a Patron rather than simply
just a boyfriend
.
Whatever the outcome, I think that you have already come up on top in many levels vis-à-vis your last experience.
So without any further ado,
I myself choose to disclose the fact about me seeing other woman according to my whims and fancy. I told Paeng (my Thai mistress) about all my other women, while I only told my PRC that I have two girl friends (without letting her on that I have Paeng on retainer!
Note however the above advice must be weighted in accordance to own unique situation and context of your relationship.
So based on the information you gave me:
a) It seems that JJ is the insecure type. Perhaps you should NOT tell her about the other women (that you might be seeing) for the time being until your relationship settles a little.
In addition, you too will be journeying as a Patron for the first time – and you will discover a lot of interesting things to do that you really might not have the time or inclination to look for alternative (at least in the early throes of your romance with JJ)
You can however use JJ or your other girl (CC?) for your buddies. We will thank you for it!
Don’t worry about future. I will share with you the techniques to disengaged the relationship with the minimal hurt and inconvenience to all parties.
For now, I would just like to highlight to you that in the course of human interactions, there will always be a natural ebb and flow in the intensity of emotions between one another. You simply use the period of ‘ebb’ to break off a relationship. And the timing, ‘ebb’ and event(s) can be orchestrated by you – I’ll show you how to do so in due time!
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Originally Posted by
warbird
Hi bro justime,
I like to express my sincere thx to u for intro JJ.
The other day I met her n gave her some earnest money. In return I took the oppty to consummate the deal.
She is a beautiful young woman! She is wearing very little makeup n after looking carefully at her fair smooth skin around her eyes n eyelids, I’m now sure that she is indeed 24 as stated in the passport. She is 173 w/o shoes, has natural c boobs n good figure. Small bony frame n small hands n feet for her height. She is responsive, very wet n tight, hehehe. She does hv a few small pimples on the cheeks though.
My problem now is to find suitable accommodation for her.
Have a great time in HK/Macau!
JJ certainly has the potential to be a dazzling diamond (I am sure that is quite obvious!). Applying the right grooming and poise onto JJ, you will certainly be an envy of many people.
Meanwhile, you must continue with your effort to seek suitable accommodation. Thrust me for now – the Love Nest can add many dimensions to the relationship.
And I finally took HKD 5, 000 back from the Venetian by playing Blackjack. Token I know, but dam satisfying in lieu that I have never even won a cent there before.
Cheers everyone!
Accommodation Quick Pointers:
There seem to be quite an interest in the concept of the Love Nest that I talked about earlier. I thought it therefore expedient that I leave some quick pointers now before reverting to the main thrust of the thread as I know that some brothers are in the midst of setting up their own personal Love Nest.
A Love Nest is useful because it allows you the biggest leverage to control these variables. It also confers you an “alpha” status like no other. In terms of giving you value for money, it is better than proffering her money directly, gift buying and subsidizing her rent outright.
Yes, from the context of my experience there is no better accommodation substitute than having your own personal Love Nest. And I have done them all: from having sex only in public/outdoors to long stays at service apartments!
Summary of place/venue/accommodation for sex:
a) Hotels/motels/service apartments are expensive options. Having the use of the entire house (plus a room for your personal living space) over the course of a month gives you more value in addition to being easier on the pocket.
Also in hotels & motels, you are in many ways limited by the range of “love equipment” that you might bring in and the type of copulation activity that you might engage in. (Will tell you what these Love Equipment are later)
b) To use your own place to accommodate your girlfriend/mistress limits the number of girls that you can have carnal relationship with simultaneously. Unless you have the financial wherewithal of the Mistress Brotherhood (except for Jus), most of us have only one house available.
Alternatively, you can have a harem like arrangement. This arrangement takes a little practice to successfully execute. I myself do not have direct experience with having all my mistresses living under one roof but Mike and Hua have done so.
c) When you are not the landlord (or main tenant) you have to abide the ‘rules of the house’ (sorry for that turn of phase – still in Casino mode presently!)
Your conjugal visits to your girlfriends/mistress house needs to be ‘scheduled’ around the other tenants’ and the Landlords’ timetables. I have gone to the ladies’ domicile countless times and I can tell you that a majority of them share a room with others and that most landlords prohibit male visitors to their premise.
d) For those living with parents etc, I suggest not to bring these lasses there at all. You don’t want them to know where you (or your loved ones stay). If the relationship sours for whatever reason, you will be putting them at risk. I have witnessed and even experienced first hand incredible scenes of PRC ladies going berserk when she is scorned or dumped.
At any rate, (for me at least), it will be awkward to say the least to be engaging in intercourse with the parents around.
(It’s a long time ago but I once had a “screamer” who is so loud during love making that it invited a knock on the door by my parents with the inevitable concerned “Are you alright?” Talk about libido and wood killer!).
In short, please grow up from being a teenager whereby you arrange for a tryst only when your parents or significant others are not in.
You are now a patron, whom the mistress is supposed looks up to. Be in control of your time when you want to indulge in carnal pleasures without the need to defer to anyone!
I am incredibly fastidious about whom I choose to share my Love Nest with. I have two different groups of co-landlords for two different sets of apartment. This worked out to be one apartment for XH and one for GQ, my PRC ex –waitress mistress.
By the way, I am the one signing the main contract lease with the owner of the house but I did not tell either of one of my mistress about it, preferring to create a fictitious landlord in order to ascribed blame to the ‘landlord’ for any household rules that I want to introduce.
At present, I do not have any more excess capacity for additional Love Nest. Both in terms of rooms/apartment as well as the number of suitable people who is willing join in the Love Nest arrangement.
During these three years of budget accommodation, I even witnessed a ‘fairy tale’ wedding with members of my Love Nest - (not in scope and grandeur of the matrimonial ceremony but simply just for the fact that my co-landlord marrying a KTV WL. They move out to set a Love Nest of their own).
One of my co-landlords, William is so easy going and generous here. He buys groceries for all at the household without any fuss whatsoever on whether other people chip in their share. He even stocks up toiletries (yes, even sanitary pads!) for common use. (For my part, I usually pay for utilities without asking the co-landlords to chip in (give and take)).
One of the rules we agree upon (the Love Nest where XH is staying presently) is that there should be no other male visitors except us!
I always ensure that all my co-landlords know the rules of engagement before I even rope them in project Love Nest.
It is generally more difficult to find a good co-landlord than girls
etc. To this end, I am very patient and methodical about with finding suitable candidates whom I can share Project Love Nest with.
For my first effort, I actually started with only other person (and I absorbed a large proportion of the rent until I find another suitable person).
(To be continued ..)
Despite the heavy theorizing in this thread, I am pretty sure that most of you would have deduced by now that I am a firm advocate of “praxis”. Don’t believe what I write no matter how eloquent I sound. Theory must be validated against experience in order to make it meaningful and of use to you. Ultimately, there is NO substitute for direct experience.
That is why I am so profoundly glad that Bro Warbird actually utilizes what he learnt here and actually puts it against real life experience. I am confident that Bro Warbird will vindicate the concepts and theories of what I put forth. This is the best testimony and validation of the truism of what I write here. The pitfalls I mentioned and advice I give are gleaned the hard and expensive way. You can avoid this by learning from my experience.
Whether you are hesitant on BY or simply want to just empower yourself a little within the context of your present relationship - Just dive into it experientially.
Go for the ride and bear in mind the principles I mentioned. Apply the concepts and masterstrokes and you will see that your journey is so much more enjoyable. Test it – “rubber hits road” against your own experience. If you had a bad experience previously, all the better. You will plainly see the stark difference between what you have done wrong previously and the new improved approach you take in courting girls or BY.
With that in mind (experience as oppose to theory), I am introducing:
GREAT EXPERIMENT 1: PROJECT LOVE NEST (Budget version)
GREAT EXPERIMENT 1: PROJECT LOVE NEST (Budget version)
I rushed out talking about accommodation instead of continuing on Masterstroke at this juncture because I know that some brothers are on the verge of setting out a Love Nest and don’t really know how to go about it. I know that it can sometimes be a challenge to find like minded persons to share costs (and enjoy benefit) for things such as Love Nest. It took me ages to find the people I want.
Now I want to take this practical approach a little further.
As a service and social experiment of sorts, I want to see whether I can get like minded brothers who intend or are in the process of setting up a Love Nest to come together and share cost. (I am presuming a budget version of the Love Nest)
I shall facilitate the setting up of a Love Nest for readers of this thread who are seriously contemplating it.
Obviously this is the first time I am using the internet as a modus operandi to set up a Love Nest. There will therefore be some kinks invariably in the execution of it.
As such,
I suggest you take a “caveat emptor” approach when you buy into this proposition
. I will NOT take any responsibility for the consequence at all for this venture. You are the adult, and the decision and responsibility to embark on this project is yours alone. I am merely helping out by expanding my time and effort (which in some commercial arrangement can be worth quite a fair bit!)
Some caveats:
i) This is a simple project that I thought of when writing my earlier post and in answering some PM that I received. Not much deliberation, ratiocinations and planning go into it. Hell, I am not even sure that I can get even one single person interested here!
ii) The Great Experiment basic aim is to find a pool of equally interested brothers there who is interested in setting up their personal Love Nest.
Please do so only when you have the financial means and are seriously interested in taking up the Project.
Please remember that there is No such thing as look-see or even a maybe. If you hesitate, you are in the category of not interested. Look no further:
iii) For now, we work on a PM system basis, with me being the ‘exchange’ centre. Once you have decided that you are indeed interested, give me a PM. Once I have received your PM, I then assess your situation and will re-direct you to a specific e-mail address whereby you can send me all the relevant information as per below.
The general terms of the proposition are as follows.
Read carefully
:
For tenants/constituency mix, there will be three patrons living with one mistress each.
The location must be accessible to major KTV clusters – you should be familiar enough on where these are. Read this thread again carefully and/or go through this entire forum if need be.
As I am not a property agent or consultant, the above figure is only just a guesstimate. Be prepared to pay a little more.
For me, I usually discriminate – only female visitors are allowed. No other males beyond that of the landlords to the Love Nest.
Also give your maximum budget that you are willing to spend. Err on the side of being conservative in putting up your budget.
If that is the case, I will be the Project leader. I will also take up the master bedroom.
(* Depending on the Xin2 thingy or whether there is anyone else that come along during this Project phase).
I cannot confirm my participation now, but I will certainly help put parties together if there is sufficient interest out there. I also guarantee that I won’t “choose” co-landlords to favour myself. Whatever the outcome, I will share with all at every step of the way, about my participation in the project.
As a favour however, I can meet everyone on the team and give my own personal briefing on the expectations of a Love Nest and how to make it work.
The above favour should not be misconstrued that I will definitely do so. I am quite a busy person and cannot 100% commit that I can give you this time.
I promise that what you send remains with me**. Be absolutely candid. I have seen and experienced a lot of different things, your circumstances will likely NOT to surprise me at all!
**(I give you my word that NO disclosures about your personal information and story will be leaked out from my end. You have to take this on faith here. Intuit. Read through my thread again to get a flavour on what I stand for.)
***(Like minded as in believes that you should always be empowered in your “love” relationship with girlfriends or mistress. Ideally, all roomies are on a Patron based mistress (or lease aspiring to be one!)
Okay, Let’s see how this Great Experiment 1: Project Love Nest shapes out!
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by
Koreanlover
Anymore Masterstrokes to impart Justime. I am still trying to recover from my first failed attempt to BY.
Hi Koreanlover, the answer to your questions is yes - there are actually quite a fair bit of Masterstrokes that I have not touched on and will impart in due course. I do apologise for the plodding pace of Masterstroke 2. It will be finished soon I promise.
Anyway Koreanlover, the other concepts which I talked are not a distraction from the Masterstrokes. It is actually the philosophical underpinnings that support the Masterstrokes. It is equally important to know them well as the Masterstrokes itself. In essence you should look at BY as an integrated whole (and holistically). With the starting point always asking yourself this question: “How am I empowered if I do this (course of action)?”.
I know about heart breaks and the pain of separation – I am a divorcee and the in the course of my life time, I think that I have gone through at least one hundred failed relationships – long and short. Some of which I was the initiator while other times I was unceremoniously dumped because she found a better prospect or simply find me a pain in the proverbial ass.
However, know this for a fact; the curious thing about the latter situation (of me being dumped) is becoming rather rare in the last several years. It is indeed ironical because even if I was involuntarily dumped I have the necessary coping mechanism to handle it. The last time I was “hurt” it took me a whole of three days to get over it! (Now I can’t even remember how she looked like except that she had big tits and large pinkish areolas ….hell I can’t even remember whether she had straight or curly hair).
It is not that I am certainly more desirable physically – how can it be? I am much older and I have had no enhancements done. But it is because of my change in attitude and life paradigm. I managed to empower myself tremendously in the last couple of years. In essence and substance what I had done is to create options and choice in my life – which I had not done so previously. Yes, Choice as to even how should I be feeling under different life circumstances. (Will share all these strategies in due course – please be patient)
Koreanlover, I will not trivialize your emotional pain and use hard talk like: “Get over it…. “That which does not kill us makes us stronger” (Friedrich Nietzche) etc when I don’t know the full context of your relationship. What I do know however is that time is a great healer. And an empowering life strategy greatly accelerates the healing process – not only in the relationship per se but also other disappointments that the very act of living a life will bring.
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Originally Posted by
ken li
Bro Justtime, I would like to extend to you sincere thanks for your effort and time in this thread. Also perhaps encouragement.
Reading through your thread has indeed enlightened me on aspects of the BY/patronage/mistressing relationship I have missed before. To be totally honest, one of the biggest pointers to me from your thread has been the concept of empowerment.
……….
I learnt from that occasion (& a few others) that simply giving the target what she wants, when she wants it, does not mean you will get anything. Ouch! I was probably a target to her! Duh! Even after bedding her, it did not mean I got more out of it because I was simply not in much control of the dynamics.
……
Your theme on calling the shots puts many things in perspective.
It really is not a “make her happy operation”. Its a “make
ME
happy operation”.
Hi Ken, its great to see a post like that!
It is indeed quite a validation for me that my efforts are not in vain!
I also like the way you sumed things up:
It really is not a “make her happy operation”. Its a “make
ME
happy operation”.
Perhaps in addition to asking yourself whether a course of action empowers me, we can also ask ourselves whether it ME happy!
Your anecdote about mobile phone also has a ring (pardon the pun) of familiarity about it. I am sure that many brothers during their course of cheonging have encounter this proposition at some point.
Some quick pointers about mobile phones as gifts:
If more than one Uninformed Robert bites, she will simply sell it to one of her friends and pockets the cash. (Note the inordinate number of times a KTV WL changed mobile phones vis-a-vis the general population!)
This gesture is the KTV WL’s “masterstroke”. They create the impression that they are heavily in demand (thus raising her perceived value in your eyes).
You will also be blind sided into thinking that you are special in her life. Hence you are predisposed to give even more (in order to continue enjoy that ’exclusive’ special feeling).
I hate to break your bubble, but its very disempowering for you. It will actually harm your esteem in her eyes and reduce you to nothing more than a mere “shake money tree” that she can exploit. And any sex arising from her show of appreciation for the gifts is defintely perfunctory (and can never reach a high estasy for yourself or her). Might as well go for a Short Time - where the gf fantasy element can sometimes be better!
Now that you know … please don’t be that Uninformed Robert who is being exploited!
If they are aware, then they are in essence immoral. If unaware, then a case can be presented that they are simply amoral. They do what works because they are ’taught’, socialised and programed for such strategy - without taking into consideration the larger “moral” consequences.
(For social science practioneers, I used the intensive interview and questioning as well as participant obsevation to get “my answer”)
So which is it?
Keep you in suspense for a while before telling you my findings ……