Mistress

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Originally Posted by

warbird

Hi bro,

You hv the strategies of a true master!

I can’t resist gals who r “fair n tall” if they r also “young n pretty.” Hahaha. Some gals look fantastic at a distance but may prove disappointing on closer scrutiny. If u could take a closer look, I would greatly appreciate. Thx again!

You got PM, bro.

Cheers!

Hi Warbird, not sure when I will ply Dong Men/Amani again to provide the QS. Okay - admittedly, I am myopic (short sighted) but my vision cannot be so bad that I would recommend a lass with a “lorry langa” type of face.

Yes, she may not meet your high exacting standards of beauty but then again she jolly well might. And the possibilty also exists that she could be one hell of a ‘undiscovered looker."

As an aside, I am like a little Arsenal’s Arsene Wenger in my approach to gals - always like to look into “undiscovered talent” and then groom them into something special. I kinda get my kicks from transforming an “ugly duckling” into an immaculate beatuy (Like Professor Higgins of “My Fair Lady” / Pygmalion fame)

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Originally Posted by

小龙问路

Nice story!!!

Thanks “xiao Long”, hope you get some important pointers on how to empower yourself in a relationship as well!

And for brothers who want to endeavour the Budget Masterstroke Tip 1

:

It should be very obvious that you must check and ensure that your tennant possess all the relevant visas and documents first admiting her to the “Love Nest”!

Thanks to all who have contributed to the “Bladdy Obvious” discussions. To round up:

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Originally Posted by

ken li

From my understanding (& I could very well be mistaken) allow me some humble contributions.

Bladdy obvious contribution

* It is bladdy obvious that H, T, M & J’s bladdy obvious confidence is

at least in part (emphasis added)

because of their bladdy obvious standing in the “upper strata”.

** It is bladdy obvious that H, T, M & J are able,

at least to a relatively large degree - as compared to a normal salary man(emphasis added)

, to control the amount of time they can spend in their patronage pursuit.

Not so obvious contribution

*** Taking * & ** (as they could affect each other) above into context, it is not so obvious whether this all important “confidence” can actually be transplanted to any person regardless of standing, or can actually be transplanted to any person to the same degree as “the HTMJ hood”.

Hope the above is contructive in any discussion.

Hi Ken, let’s not put the cart before the horse. It is because of Mike, Hua and Terrence’s confidence that allows them to be in the position they are. And even when they started out with low income disposal, they had been keeping mistresses (which will definitely take more effort, use more budget techniques).

Just a short biography:

All are self made man who started out somewhere near the middle or middle bottom.

Mike took his father’s business to greater heights that his dad would ever imagine.

Hua started his business as a petty trader and then divested his investment and businesses.

Terrence on the other hand traveled the academic route. He had an accounts degree (chartered accountant) and climbed the corporate ladder bit by bit, acquiring a larger and larger stake in the company as he did so.

Now Jus is the exception, he had inherited an existing successful business but has incurred large

losses to the point of insolvency due to poor business decisions and general inexperience. It is through Hua and his kind ‘mentorship’ that he managed to stave off “chapter 11”. Hua is a family friend. Jus is still in the process of re-building the business. And Jus has learnt many valuable lessons from his “failure” (which should inure him against future losses). He now possessed the inner confidence, whether in dealings with business associates and rivals or with girls (whether high powered or KTV WL). His confidence is forged from fire. It is painful and he hopes to repay his ‘karmaic debt’ by doling out some useful “life’s lesson” in order to lessen others painful life lessons.

Just like Jus picked up and re-build the confidence which is rock bottom (including a failed marriage- if you remember), he knows for sure that confidence can be cultivated and learnt as he has been on that path.

Your point about time and the freedom to control your time is excellent. You need to have

some

discretion on how you choose to spend your time (which a normal salary man might not have) to be the most effective.

Not to worry though, I will provide some stop gap measures to pepper this disadvantage over. Thanks for bringing this up, I will cover this in my Master Stroke #2.

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Originally Posted by

bunnyrabbit

11. its bladdy obvious that we are smitten by the prc gals to have a discussion here

12. its bladdy obvious that bro justime should just come out with a dummy book to finding and keeping prc mistress

Yes, we do love em PRC girls don’t we?

And if there are any publisher(s) around, PM me – I will listen to any serious offer(s).

And finally,

**

It should be bladdy obvious that you should question why something is bladdy obvious in the first place !!!!

Won’t be elaborating much but one reason why we use the “bladdy obvious” technique is to preclude business solutions that may be ‘right in front of you’. People are funny, they always have the mistaken notion that ‘complex, out of the box solutions’ is the most effective. This little exercise can save time and much resources.

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by

Oceanlee

No Big words from me. Simple and Succint.

The “Winner” take’s all. Like your sharing and insight, like you had mentioned it 1 of your post. Method of application not only in “Cheonging” but also applicable to business building and other’s area in the right perspective.

Just UPZ you with my humble 3 points

Cheers.

OL

Thanks for gesture Ocean! Glad you are able to see that many of the skillset and mindset needed for empowering “cheonging” activities can applied into other parts of your life as well.

As Terrence once noted: “The KTV scene is sometimes like a microcosm of real life. We are after all dealing with people and human dynamics. As such, there will always be the inevitable “power struggles” between the gals and you (whether you care to admit it or not).

Terrence also cautioned that if you want to take them on beyond the customer and service provider relationship, you must be “on top of the situation at all times”. If not, be prepared to pay a heavy price: not only financially but emotionally as well - sometimes evento the extent of your work and family life as well.

So whether you intend to start a relationship or currently in one, please make sure that you are in an empowered position and not manipulated to the detriment of your personal well being (consciously or not).

Masterstroke #3 “Be a Confident Bastard” will demonstrate how.

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Originally Posted by

justime

As an aside, I am like a little Arsenal’s Arsene Wenger in my approach to gals - always like to look into “undiscovered talent” and then groom them into something special. I kinda get my kicks from transforming an “ugly duckling” into an immaculate beatuy (Like Professor Higgins of “My Fair Lady” / Pygmalion fame)

……….

And for brothers who want to endeavour the Budget Masterstroke Tip 1

:

It should be very obvious that you must check and ensure that your tennant possess all the relevant visas and documents first admiting her to the “Love Nest”!

As my mind flashbacked “to all the girls I loved before” (another of my favourite tune that I sing in KTV), I realised that a number of them (WL as well as ‘regular’ girls) had really blossomed under me. As recently as a week ago, I got a call from WR, an old mistress of mine, telling me that she is expanding her business (opening one more shop - in this economic climate) in Beijing. I remembered that when I first saw her, she is so shy and a little plain. Most brothers here would likely not even call her to sit with him. But by the time after my retainer (she went back to being a KTV hostess), she has nice pool of smitten men throwing themselves at her. I was told by her that everyone commented that she looked like Vicky Chao after my makeover. And when she finally saved enough money, she left the KTV industry and set up shop in Beijing. (She is still presently single although dating!)

New information on budget Masterstroke tip 1: At Sims Place (the same location where Xin2 is staying), the girls pay $300 a bed for - get this - a six person sharing room i.e. 3 double decker beds. The girls are from assorted places including BS, Amani and TAM. Good time to use the housing carrot so that they will eat your carrot!

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Originally Posted by

justime

New information on budget Masterstroke tip 1: At Sims Place (the same location where Xin2 is staying), the girls pay $300 a bed for - get this - a six person sharing room i.e. 3 double decker beds. The girls are from assorted places including BS, Amani and TAM. Good time to use the housing carrot so that they will eat your carrot!

I had forgotten to put an

icon after the $300 per bed … its daylight robbery! I can get a 3 room private apartment for low $2, 000!!!.

This is an opening for absolute budget Mistressing - the girls would subsidize your love nest and get a better accomodation in the process.

Anyone care to attempt to explain how?

BTW, I am not a Property Agent - so please do not direct any property related enquiries to me …..

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Originally Posted by

cablesnwires

This is indeed a Win-Win situation for both the girls and the patrons.

Girls can get from the S$300 per bed to her own room, with peace and quiet.

Patrons can keep the girls under wraps and does not need to book into hotels.

Haha… masterstroke indeed. :thumbsup:

I think the challenge is to find 3 buddies who have the same “hobbies” as you.

Hi cablesnwires, thanks for your support throughout this thread!

I should have been a little clearer in my explanations but I was in a rush when posting my earlier thread.

But what I meant to say is that this situation can actually allow for a 100% subsidy on your Love Nest (talk about Budget!) and with all parties benefiting on the deal except for the unscrupulous landlord.

I had herertofore not known that the lady pays $300 each for a bed in a room shared by six persons. This worked out to the landlord pocketing $1800 per room (and its HDB with no aircon some more!).

Now, I know that I can get a three roomed private apartment (with aircon for all rooms) for $2400 per month.

What if I offer these ladies paying $300 per bed an aircon room that has only four person to a room? Theoretically, I can get all six ladies staying at Sims Place, put four of them to a room with the other two in another room. All I had to find another two ladies to share the other room. In other words, four ladies to a room for two rooms. I collect $2400 ($300 x 4 ladies x 2 rooms). This leaves one room free for me and my mistress…. and without me having to come out any money save maybe for the utilities!

Like I say, everybody benefits in this deal except for the old greedy landlord at Sims Place! Budget yah…..

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Originally Posted by

warbird

Hi bro justime,

My standards r exacting but not necessarily high. They r different n quirky. I’m addicted to tall gals n w/ proportionate figure n small to medium bony frame. One man’s meat is another man’s….haha.

I met that tall n fair gal JJ at a KTV. Couldn’t get a rm, so called her to meet me just inside the club. She is pretty (although the light was dim), tall n fair. Certainly my type. Will follow up ASAP.

Thx a lot!!

Hi Warbird, you are most welcome. Would have put JJ under my retainership myself if my “loving” plate was not so dam full. (Football analogy: I NOT Real Madrid you know!).

Now that you have stated your intentions to “follow up”, I will hands off except provide you some pointers (if required) on the chase. Whether you want to do so in the private arena or public arena (as in a reality blog), its your call.

Also, regardless of the “lux reading” (measure brightness of light) when you met her, I am sure you can see that JJ has remarkable potential (quite apparant this case). And do know that I am quite good in the art of identifying potential!

dam… should be a Talent Agent or Movie Director!

New Reality Blog: Warbird & JJ

INTRODUCTION:

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Originally Posted by

warbird

Hi bro justime,

We could discuss her in the public arena as long as we dun give personal details which may reveal her ID. I’ll certainly need ur guidance n expert advice as my first BY didn’t fare well at all. Should I pay a fee for being ur mentee?

Yes, u hv an amazing ability to spot potential gems. Ur 6 senses r truly acute n sharp!

Good day!!

Hi Warbird, congratulations, you have done three things right already!

1. First (and the most important of them all) is that you have taken action. Kudos on you! You did not sit on the contact that I gave.

You acted on it

!

I have not spoken on Masterstroke #3: Be a Confident Bastard, but one central tenant of this Masterstroke is “dive” headlong without fear of rejections (or should I say, without an imaginary fear in the prospect of rejection.). I would in fact

encourage all brothers to start collecting rejections

rather than contact numbers (and doing squat!). Collecting rejections builds resilience which will serve you in the long run (and make for one hellava humorous anecdotes that you can share with like minded brothers!

2. Secondly, you did not take things for granted. By proffering a fee, you have in fact displaying the attitude – that “money can buy anything” mentality. This attitude is very useful in your approach to cultivate a mistress. It trivializes the emotional ego ‘baggage’ surrounding the chase into one of commercial transaction.

(And as for my “fee”, there is none whatsoever. No need for even the ‘obligatory’ blanjar! Most important consideration is my personal satisfaction in that I had help someone in empower himself and that he had shitloads of fun & joy in the process).

Remember that you want to immerse in “Mistressing” in the first place because you want some excitement, some

joie de vivre

(“Joy of Life” in French). Both in the thrill of the chase itself and whatever romance that may come in your way in the course of your relationship. (Note that when I say “in the course of the relationship” I am actually stating the transitory nature of the relationship!)

And yes, this virtual mentoring is also opened to all brothers reading this thread as well – on a while “stocks last!” basis.

I do not intend to keep this thread running beyond what is necessary. There will be an “end” – at least on my part! And I hope that during my tenure here, I would help empower as many people as possible.

3. Thirdly, your request on not disclosing any details in the public arena is duly noted. To prevent unnecessary potential competition is the correct approach. We do not want anyone to usurp your efforts halfway. Somebody out there may just be more savvy and with deeper pockets to boot! To engage in a bidding war (not only in terms of money but emotional) is something that I can do without. For me, it takes too much effort – better to go for new prospect and enjoy the delicious sex quickly as possible and for as long it sustains your interest.

There are some who actually enjoy the thrill of “the chase” itself. Let me forewarn you that if it is the case, it will be a hell of an expensive proposition. (Mike reckoned it to be like “Marlin Fishing”: spend money, energy and time to reel it in, only to throw it back to the sea!)

Before proceeding further, let me at the outset make it clear that there are two components in this: the chase and the maintenance of the Mistress. For now however, we will focus on the chase aspect. I will however, periodically give warnings of the do’s and don’ts even as you give chase. This is to prevent many potential problems that will invariably surface during the maintenance stage.

(To be continued)

The Chase:

I have not met you and don’t know your financial status (Warbird may have the assets of Oei Hong Leong for all I know). I shall however assume that you want to take the “budget” approach in your pursuit of JJ.

In this case, let me remind you of an earlier posting of mine:

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Originally Posted by

justime

…..Let’s face it, you will need some degree of financial leverage. Let me also state at the outset that with the “budget’ version, it does limit your range of choice. You will need to ‘pre-select’ the girls with certain predisposition and apply the masterstrokes accordingly. And if you are old and aesthetically challenged (one ugly MF), you will need to work a little smarter. And your choice gets smaller. But know this: you can still get a pretty girl to be your mistress.

Initial Rules of Engagement:

1. The first stage is to establish whether JJ has that “certain predisposition”. At the point of writing, I do not have any information on your interaction to make such a judgment. You will need to provide me with as much information as possible. I will provide you with a simple template whereby you can account and document your experience thus far below.

2. Remember, this is mentoring in the virtual world. As such, I am missing many cues that I would have picked up on in real life interactions. To partially compensate for this, you will need two key attributes:

a) You must be brutally frank. Forget about the ego and tell it as you perceived it. Don’t worry if people think you are “hao lian” (proud) nor obfuscate and hide anything because you think that people will think less of you.

b) You must also basically have some degree of self awareness and be mindful of details. You should know by now that certain Masterstrokes utilize details in order to put one in an advantageous position.

3. You should also realize that at this point I have only barely scratched the surface on the Masterstrokes. So I may sometimes give suggestions and certain maneuvers that might not make sense to you. You need to take a leap of faith and believe that I am not Mad (to paraphrase Shakespeare’s Macbeth: ”there’s purpose in the madness!”).

It should be obvious that Masterstrokes can be counter intuitive and in many instances not politically correct. It focuses on what works!

4. Now the first step of the Budget Mistressing, as the name implies, is to set a budget. How much you do want to spend in the pursuit before calling it a day? How much time are you willing to invest?

Note however, that the time (and even money) wasted currently is not down the proverbial drain even if the chase ends in failure for the first time. The prospect’s (e.g. JJ) circumstances and situation is always in the flux and change. And now may simply not be the right time for JJ to be hitched. And this has nothing to do with yourself despite your best effort.

This being said, it does not mean that the future proposals will also meet with same response/result.

Those in the sales line would know exactly what I am talking about. You try to close the deal on the spot. However, even you did not succeed now. there should be periodical follow up. The prospect may be ready sometime down the road as her life situation changes.

After this quick fire introduction, Warbird, (or anyone else for that matter, you still game?)

If so, please provide a detailed as possible narrative of your interactions with JJ thus far:

Pay particular attention to:

I) How smooth is your interaction with her? Rate in based on YOUR personal assessment on a scale of 1 to 10 (with 10 being JJ ready to jump into bed with you)

II) The number of times she is with you and the general length of time she is with you? (Note: length of time is Not equated with quality)

III) What information did she share with you about herself? If this information voluntary or was the information ‘coaxed’ through the questions you asked?

IV) What did you talk about? The general topics covered?

V) Provide body language inputs: Any light touches, you grope her, she grope you, the usual subtle signs of flirting (I presume you know this).

(Note again: For usual courtship, the ‘subtle signs of flirting’ is integral. However for mistressing, her initial reaction or lackof is not an essential. It is how your conduct yourself that is the key.)

VI) Who else accompanied you when JJ is with you?

VII) How did you present yourself? Serious, jokey or mixed? Include your clothing and styling as well.

VIII) How did the interaction end? You said you are leaving? Is there tips proffered? How much? Did you offer to call her? (and did you actually call her?)

IX) Do you sense “materialism” in the interaction? Whether JJ talks about money, clothes and in general ostentatious and branded goods.

Too challenging? Can still back out one you know ….. (anyway, ball is on your court!)

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Originally Posted by

warbird

I’ll be meeting w/ JJ for lunch in a couple of hrs. I’ll give u a FR. I need to move quickly bcos I wont be free to meet her again until next Sat. I’ll hv a lot of free time after the first wk of July. If it’s mutually agreeable, I may start BY after that time.

Thx again n hv a great day!!

Excellent work. And whether conciously or not, the fact that you are busy favours YOU. You are telling her that the world does not revolve round her!

And to show you that we are on the same “psychic plane”, I am being blown by XH even as I respond to this page, right now she is kneeling under the desk doing a Monica Lewinsky.

No worries, I never ever show any girls any websites I visit! (Also XH doesn’t know any English whatsoever except: “Hello, how are you?”, “I love you” and “Fuck!”)

Cheers

I didn’t realize that Warbird is such a prolific contributor to this forum till I did some searching. (Good on ya. Bro!).

Anyway to provide some context to the Reality Blog, I have extracted the relevant bits (mainly from TAM and “Pick up gals outside a KTV” threads) with regards to his BaoYing of girls.

From my reading of Warbird’s past contributions, it appears that I may be of only a miniscule “value add” in helping him catch and land a lass. In fact, I can perhaps learn a thing or two from him.

I guess the only key area whereby I might be useful is on how to extract the best possible terms when negotiating a “Mistressing” deal.

In the meantime, enjoy the little extracts below. I am sure there may be quite a few brothers here are waiting to hear more about the sexploits of “Project JJ”.

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Originally Posted by

warbird

Can an old chi ko pek like me pick up young n beautiful gals outside a KTV? The answer is ABSOLUTELY YES. It would be a lot easier for those younger bros w/ ample time. You need a very thick skin which is immune to rejections n, yes, u will still need sufficient money to woo n bed these PRC MMs. But u will save quite a bit by picking them outside KTVs.

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Unfortunately, she made it too easy as I could kissed her in the car n she shyly agreed to go to a “secure n safe place” next week. My interest in her has already dropped 50%. She should hv played hard to get to give me more fun in chasing her. In fact, when I first SMSed her, I was worried that she would reject a DOM like me n hence I arranged to go in a chauffeured limousine. I did give her a nice tip for spending time w/ me. I’ll not call her to come to TAM Monday as she requested bcos I’m going hv her regardless. I’ll just meet her in a hotel in a few days, hahaha.

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Originally Posted by

warbird

If I’m looking for a quick fxk, I’ll go to GL CAT150 houses. Yes, young pretty high-end KTV gals generally give very little (sexual) service. My first bao is a KTV gal whom I hv pursued for 8 months. Though she herself is very responsive, her service for me is essentially zero!

In my limited experience, eventually all KTV gals want a man to 照顾 her. Thus far all 3 PRC MMs whom I deem worthy of my BAO-ing hv all consented. The first one took 8 months of chasing, 2nd one 3 months n 3rd one only 3 days. I hv only BAO-ed the first one. The 2nd one was deported back to China. The 3rd one? I’m not going to BAO her as I actually live oversea n hv limited time here. She wants me to get a student visa for her n pay her enough so that she doesn’t need to moonlight at KTVs for the whole yr. She will be deeply disappointed. But the negotiation w/ her has been a good learning experience.

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Originally Posted by

warbird

Hi bro,

BTW, I like tall gals who r slim to medium build, not thin or skinny. BB is tall n slim. Must hv proportionate figure though.

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by

warbird

Pls let me know. After this week I may not hv a lot of free time until mid July.

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Personally I was unimpressed, to put it mildly.

There were about 80 gals or so, of which only 4-5 chio SYTs. Unfortunately, those gals I wanted to bonk dun do ST, according to mummies. These chio SYTs were not prettier than the 4-5 chio ones (out of abt 60) who used to stand along L8/Talma Rd.

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Damage was surprisingly modest: One bottle of Martell plus tip for waiters n mamasan came to $500 or $100 for each bro. All 5 of us drank little though.

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Will I return to TAM? Yes, becos I’m confident that most of the chio ones would agree to be BAO-ed eventually. I also believe the STI would plunge again in the coming weeks/months, which will adversely affect the business in all KTVs, n by then these gals would be glad to accept my offers, hahaha. It’s a long-term investment. They r for my next trip here…

Cheers!!

…. be right back with “Developing a Crutch Mentality” soon!