- I have talked about the futility of second guessing whether a mistress likes you not. Ultimately it is of no consequence. You had implied that when the mistress likes you (as in she “gives you her heart”), you will have “extras” served onto you.
Part 4 of my reply
What exactly are these “extras” that you are referring to? To put it crassly, a Patron will have sweet wayangs and her pussy will be just as wet!
In fact the very thread will show otherwise. A Patron based mistress will have much more “extras” served up than a regular girlfriend and/or Uninformed Robert.
If you think that a relationship must have vexations before it is authentic (hence good?); let me tell that even in the course of Patron based relationship, the dynamics of human interactions is such that vexations will also exist. Only that it exists on a smaller scale and that you can control it to a much better extent.
As Hua puts it: “When you eat durian you know to eat the flesh (“the good bits in the relationship”). You also know to throw away the thorns after you eat and spit out the seeds when eating the flesh” (able to decipher this metaphor?) We got better things to focus on and more sexual dalliance to indulge in than to deal with vexations.
Warbird, Thank you once again for your posts. It allowed me to present another dimension of empowerment (which may better resonate with some readers here).
And if you are to take only one lesson from this thread (from a relationship in general perspective): “Always think in terms of how a relationship can empower you”
PS: By the way, I have recently concluded a new deal (the same one which I mentioned in my “reality blog” earlier). I have a new SYT on my retainer (SGD 1,500 monthly) hence my delay in responding.
This however is not strictly the Patron-mistress relationship, but a more ‘commercial’ arrangement (with some echoes of budget mistress).
Anyway at SGD 150 a pop (no need to be so fastitidous and make distinction about overnighter or one shot lah - all that its important is she accomodates to my schedule), I reckon that all I need to do is to do her more than 10 times a month and I am ‘on top’ - financially.
She is allowed to work but will likely do so on a part time basis (ooops, I created a “crutch mentality” in her under a week … trying to help you guys paradoxically ‘helped’ hone this skillset!)
And my apologies for taking a 25 year old SYT off the market from Amani/Dong Men in only her third week of work - but she claims she doesn’t chu jie anyway (or so she says …….
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PPS: Will address other comments on “bladdy obvious” posts - very many good observations here bros! And then its onward to continuing “Masterstroke #2: Creating a crutch mentality”.
Just a quick response before I address some very good observations posted by bros to the ‘bladdy obvious’ pointers:
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asdfghjkl
this thread got many chim words for me.. like writing a thesis ler..
Hi asdfghjkl, Anyway, this style is my most comfortable way of expressing myself in writing. It is therefore faster for me to write and compose things in this manner.
Other than for business writing and correspondence, where got time to write other things one? Oso ah, writing in this type of ang mo can give a little different bawu and rasa to the thread. Chim neber mind lah, can check “dick"tionary what! (See how stilted, anal retentive and affected I sound when using “Singlish” to write?)
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SexKing972
champ here , cheerrs
Coming from one so regal, this is high praise indeed. Thank you Your Highness!
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cablesnwires
Just curious, she may agree to your terms now, and rightly so. But what if she had managed to hook onto a bigger fish, and within a month or so? Expect to hear her giving excuses… How would you deal with that?
P/S: Sometimes things just don’t work the way it should, and what are the contingency plans that you have?
Hi warbird, how would you react to this situation?
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warbird
Hi bro justime,
I love ur concept of being a “father- mentor” n “provider” to the gal u BY.
I like to emulate a very famous “father-mentor” figure. Just watch carefully how he speaks, moves, walks, sits, stands n his eye ctc, body language…he projects charisma, power, dominance, confidence, emotional control, assertiveness, etc. I always watch n learn. If only I had a small fraction of his mojo, I would hv bedded all the gals I ever wanted, hahaha.
Good day!!
Can share who this “famous” figure is?
The best reference point I have is John Derek (who? younger ones may ask .. Bo Derek’s husband who is purportedly a svengali figure in Bo’s life. Google it!) and Mike Douglas (love Cat Zeta Jones .. imagine coming on ’that’ face!)
Hi everyone,
What a week I have been having! it is now a little downtime for me. I have a slight respite from my business activities and I am quite drained (energy wise and my testicles’ spermatozoid fluid) to “ball” my latest squeeze anymore.
Since I am still of relatively fresh mind (until my tired body catch up), I think it is therefore an expedient time to put forth some elaboration on Masterstroke #2: the creation of a crutch mentality” first before tackling the issues raised in the discussion.
I shall start with the ‘draggy’ elaboration on what a crutch mentality is and then show some basic techniques used. This will be followed by rapid fire bullet points to reinforce what is described. I am pretty sure that quite lot of you will find a find points quite interesting (and workable as a strategy1)
This being said, please however do keep ‘em post coming brothers! I enjoy your posts very much and promise that every issue raised and every pertinent comments will be tackled accordingly.
Meanwhile also do keep up the spirit of discussion amongst yourself while I elaborate on Masterstroke #2 (during the time where my mental energy is still up) – I will join you in a bit.
Let me preface my exposition of Masterstroke #2 by first putting a damper on some brothers who may not so proficient in the English language:
It “cr
U
tch” (as in a medical device that consist of supports to provide an injured patient stability of movement) and not “cr
O
tch” (as in area where you balls are). Fret not however, I will talk about the CROTHCH mentality in another Masterstroke!
As an analogy (quite typically Singapore), the use of crutches can develop into an unnecessary (and often unhealthy) reliance on it. It is often used here in the context of the government being prudent in the giving out of handout to the needy as they fear that the needy may become overly reliant on them over time.
In the Mistress context, it is used as a metaphor that the Mistress will rely on the Patron in such a way, that she becomes complacent and dependant on the Patron’s support for her income and emotional needs. The Patron can, by withholding or threatening to withhold the support, get the prospect to first agree to become his Mistress and then subsequently do his bidding.
In essence, the whole purport of the strategy is get the mei mei rely on you (her future Patron) for her income and emotional needs. This support provided by the Patron does not come for free (unless you are an Uneducated Robert), it must be paid ‘in kind’. In essence, it is like a business transaction with some emotional content thrown in
(The creation of a crutch mentality should ideally come in tandem with the ruthless step of starving the income potential of your intended quarry. This is the quickest way of positioning yourself as the ‘superior’ in the relationship).
Essential information for the Creators of Crutch Mentality to take note of:
Many of us know the general attributes of a mei mei coming to Singapore to ply her trade. She has to be independent. After all she leaves her homeland to live and work in a foreign land. She must be ruthless and single minded in her pursuit for money (and must not be sidetracked in this primary mission). If confronted with a choice, materialism (as expressed by money) always takes precedence over psychic needs like acceptance and love.
It pays well to always remember the above at all times – through the tears, through the pulsations and quivering of her the body as she basks in the throes of an orgasm, through the jealous pouts and tantrums, through the Love Wayangs etc …. ,
Remember to also not provide justifications such as “China has a population of 1 billion people and therefore we cannot generalize. She is different and not like that”.
Taking such a perspective will disempower you! It usually starts with this line of thought, and in time, you will provide more and more ‘excuses’ and justifications of the mistress poor delivery on her part of her deal.
Now knowing the general attributes, it does not mean we cannot
influence the manner (modus operandi) in which she goes about accumulating money
. It also does not mean that the mei mei are like automatons – singular in the pursuit of money without the
need for emotional fuel
!
People are naturally inertia prone i.e. lazy and will look for the least effort in getting money. The mei mei are no exceptions. Once exposed to the easy way of life, they will find it difficult to get back to the grind. They rather rely on the generosity of the Patron (especially if coupled with emotional support) than work…… more so if the work is very draining and taxing.
And she is oblivious to the fact that the Patron can manipulate to make her work conditions much worse than it actually is in order to manipulate her into taking the easy way out!
Creating a “Crutch” Mentality: First “Drain” her
I have talked earlier about exhausting her through the combination of alcohol and giving her the runaround in her place of work. This is lay the groundwork, make her work unbearable so that she will think of a way out. (Its similar when companies want a deadweight employee to quit - simply make his work life a stressful living hell!)
Besides the above, there are numerous other ways as well.
(Its inevitable that someone will suggest a nice rogering session. Yes, its applicable, but execution and delivery in the real world quite tedious!)
I shall share some not so common ways:
Using the wuss method:
One secret: The Mistress Brotherhood would often utilize the wuss (the “girly” man, the needy, spineless guy) in her life to facilitate in the “draining” effort. It is not only mentally tiring but also physically exhausting to quarrel with the man in her life. Sometimes it can take a whole night and the following day as well. All we need to do is to intentionally create the situation and context (such a jealousy) to trigger a hissy fit from a wuss.
There are many many ways to do so. One effortless way is to simply talk and even ask her questions especially when she converses with her man. They like to do that – even when you are around. Thrust me, I encountered countless times whereby some lovelorn insecure brothers will keep calling his China mei mei girl friend (when she is with me) like some hungry baby in need of a feeding.
In “use the wuss” method:
Remember to not take the bullshit and ‘conspire’ with her to keep quiet while she talks to her guy with you around. You talk as and when you like – remember empowerment guys!. You may nod as if you agree to keep silent when she says she needs to take a call. But once is call is put through, talk as if normal.
(Mike and Terrence are more vicious, they would intentionally loudly mention “Hotel 81” – just to provoke a reaction!).
What if the mistress gets angry because you reneged on your promise to keep silent?
Simply shrug it of and cast aspersions on her guy by pointing to fact that he is so insecure and wuss and that she is better off without him. She may be annoyed and/or even ignore you for a while but later will cool down and assume normal interactions. (China mei meis by an large are a feisty bunch – fast to anger and also fast to cool down).
Okay, what if they still refuse to cool down and display apathy in the interactions subsequently? Now YOU show the annoyance and say that you will be sending her home. If you had bought her time to keep you company, never pay in full – near to the full (as you don’t want to leave the impression that you are miserly which is counter productive at this stage of the affair).
(To be continued ……)
oh yes, we do “love” the wussy guy - especially if he is young! Not only does he help to drain the girls emotionally and physically, but we will use him as an example to illuminate to our future mistress the virtues of a more mature (read “older”) and experienced guy who is in control of our emotions.
Suddenly our age is no longer seen only as a ’liability’ by our future mistress but as a ‘possibility’. We are not seen as old (and undesirable), but mature and experinced. And mature is a desirable trait espcially when contrasted against the petulant hissy fit of the wuss!
Yes, and we do “rub it in”: We will make sure that our future mistress sees that the younger wuss is selfish (with no consideration that she is in Singapore to earn money) and immature. We will also show that he is unstable and therefore unreliable.
Its like killing two birds with one stone!
Crutch mentality and Animal farm: Identifying and Cutting Off the “Mother Hen
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Xin2 had it going with Joey. Its not so apparent is the Mummy system KTV but for a mummy less system, we see it every time. What is it? I call it the Mother Hen syndrome.
KTV WLs, especially the tortoises (new comers), can have a mentor or da jie (big sister) system going on. KTVs, such as the ones in Jalan Sultan and Peace Centre area, are replete with a no mummy system style KTV and the Mother Hen syndrome.
Here you can practically witness a purportedly more experience lady guiding a green horn in the art of securing a ‘tai’. I call the experienced KTV veteran the “mother hen”.
In fact some Mother Hens are so immersed in their zeal (largely to fill their own ‘ego’ needs) that they sometimes forego the tai themselves as they try to push and sell you the services of their more inexperienced friend.
Note however, that this mentoring and guiding system does not stop inside KTV world. The tortoise also defer to the Mother Hen in many other matters. Ironically, it is easier to get a Mother Hen to be a mistress than her tortoise chick.
The Mother Hen provides the tortoise chick with the emotional crutch. As such the chick will defer to the Mother Hen in many matters - especially “big decisions” regarding the acceptance of a Patronage.
You can work with and through the Mother Hen initially and then cut off the Mother Hen or loosen the power of the Mother Hen at the outset. I will with you some strategies on how cut off the interfering Mother Hen.
Like to mentioned that the payback of having provided the Emotional Crutch can be quite big. Once a Patron make himself the sole (or primarily source) of emotional support, he literally can twirl his mistress around his little finger. The Patron can get his Mistress to do things that she is not comfortable with by just temporarily withholding the emotional support.
Hua had a mistress, Lina, who is quite the conservative sort as far as sexual adventures are concerned. She likes the bedroom setting type of scenario. However, Hua had developed a “doing it in Public Place fetish” with regards to sex in that phase of his life.
Hua wanted to emulate Jus (who told him about his tryst in Europe with a cabin crew on the top of the mountain). Unfortunately, he is unable to persuade Lina to do indulge him in this kink. All that took Lina to come around to doing his will was to clam up a few days – Lina always confides in him about her activities of the day. And Hua usually just provide a listening ear and the occasional advice. (Mike and Terrence and to certain extent Jus – not really into the listening of babble type). Clam up - never pout - there is nothing so disgusting as witnessing a lao hero pouting and throwing tantrums!
This ‘subtle blackmail’ indeed got its desired response. Lina knowing that she disappointed Hua actually suggested to him to do so at a “mountain” (okay, hill, okay okay – its in Singapore … so a “Knoll” is more like it. Its at Kent Ridge Park near the suspended bridge).
Hua, after this “breaking Lina in” through emotional blackmail (you can ‘blackmail’ only when you have got it), gets to finally indulge his public sex fetish (until he tires of it and moves on his next new kink).
Getting the emotional dependency is therefore very powerful indeed. And usually a Patron will like to have this weapon/tool at his disposal. But first he must systematically identify and then destroy the Mistress existing emotional crutches and replace it with themselves.
Yes, despite their independenat exterior, almost every mei mei I know have their own sources of emotional crutch. And yes, it should also be obvious that some woman have a higher emotional maintance cost and hence you may want to leave some of her emotional supports in order that you will not be bothered too much …..
(To be continued …)
Reality Blog update:
Xin2 and Mike:
In terms of ’entertainment value’, I would really like to things to get moving to some sort of conclusion with regards to Xin2 and Terrence. Then we can discuss about the “ethics” of mistress transfer between friends (a new experience for me). In the absence of that, I had hope for at least some interim drama or anything to ‘spice things up’. Unfortunately, this is real life. And sometimes events unfold at a glacial pace.
The fact is that I have been so busy with my own affairs that I have not spoken to Xin2 nor with members of Mistress Brotherhood until today for a quick update. There is no significant developments, mainly because Terrence is still busy at work after his Middle East trip and Xin2 still vegetating.
My new retainer XH:
As mentioned in passing, this is a straight forward deal that is concluded very quickly. There is no elaborate execution strategy needed like in the case of Xin2.
It is almost a direct proposition - “wanna let me take care of you?” (I find that this “line” is quite effective in the sense of how you position yourself - “I take care of you” is a subtle crutch mentality programming)
Of course I did run some Masterstrokes on XH. I presented a certain style that resonates with her (as will be explained in Masterstroke #3). In addition, I did a “mini” Masterstroke #2 by having her sit with me a long time (and then tipping her only $30 for two days consecutive), and lending some emotional support by some active listening and then providing a solution - basically I helped her a new place to live, one that is cheaper and better place to live.
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BUDGET MASTERSTROKE TIPS 1 (Only used by Jus)
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Know that there is unscrupulous housing agents / landlords taking advantage of a mei mei ignorance to charge them high rental. For a lousy location and four sharing bedroom which is quite small the average going rate is $250 - $280 a bed. In effect, they get a bed space for $250- 280 and they have to share it with four other persons.
What I did is to pool money with 2 other buddies of mine (not Mike, Terrence or Hua) - to rent an entire house and then sublet it to interested parties (including our mistress prospect). Of course, I will NOT inform our mistress that I am one of the main tenants.
Anyway, I will charge a token sum of “$300” for an aircon non master room for my mistress and top up the rest quietly. Unlike Mike and Hua (and to certain extent Terrence), I do not provide accommodation when I issue a retainer to my mistress. I used to but not anymore. Now, I simply say that I have an excellent ‘kang tao’ for accommodation which I will specially arrange for my Bao Pei (darling mistress) and I get this special deal because I know the landlord very well.
From her perspective, its indeed very special deal: Paying $300 (only $50-$20 extra) I get an “unshared”, non-owner occupied, aircon room that allows cooking and “conjugal” visits from your loved ones.
I top up the difference because it would still be cheaper than overnighters at Hotel 81 and Fragrance (especially over the period of the month) and I can also get my laundry done here.
Because of my recent “Tao Hua Yun” (lucky streak with women), I may need to find new persons who will share the cost of renting the whole apartment (love nest I call it) … and then sub-letting it to our mistress and/or girl friend. Perhaps someone here ?……..
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warbird
Hi bro justime,
Thx again bro for ur revelations…
My biggest problem is that my didi is very choosy ( if u hv read my other posts, u will know wat I mean). As a result my potential quarries r very limited in number.
One man’s meat is another…n reality is in the mind of the beholder.
You’re very lucky to find a gal u like at Dong Men. I did go there recently bcos it’s rumoured that DM has 300 gals at HH. Of the 150 plus gals I saw that day, I wont even want to hv ST w/ any of them!
Have a great day!!
I share your sense of aesthetics with regards to the damsels at Dong Men and Amani. I too surveyed quite a fair bit of damsels at these two places. In fact, I had patiently sat through the entire gamut of singers. Of the girls (and including singers) that I came across, only two have struck my fancy - and one of them I had on retainer.
However to be fair to Dong Men and Amani, the girls do move about and roam freely. Since, there are no room allocation system and no ‘gathering point’ for speak of (unlike say Club Infinitude) … there may be quite a few gems that may go unnoticed in my radar.
That being said, my current flavour of mei meis is the fair and tall type. If this coincides with your current preference, (and if you want to give it a shot), I shall pm you a name and number. If she does not take to your fancy, the most you give her a $20-$30 tip for her troubles. By the way, she is the other one of the two potentials that I mentioned earlier.
By the way, I have not worked any Masterstroke on her whatsoever. Also, she is less than a month old here – similar to XH.
The one big caveat is that I had only a cursorily look at her. She may be good from far (but “far from good” on closer scrutiny). And if she does catch your fancy, perhaps you may join in the reality blog of this thread.