- Like, any business, Cash flow is important. Mike would make the booking for the night – but know this: he charges Xin2 booking through the credit card instead of paying cash to Xin2. There will invariably be delays of a few days before Xin2 is actually paid. (As an aside: Kabuki KTV –under the old management - is the slowest paymaster of them all. Sometimes taking up to two weeks! )
- Mike needs to eliminate the competition. Booking Xin2 day after day is not only a monumental effort but also sounds needy. You lose the respect of the Mistress prospect. Yet, you do not want any other gentleman coming along and scuttle your efforts by also offering retainership.
- Should Mike decide to leave early, he will always offer additional $50 to Xin2 to continue taking care of his friends who are still there (Hua and Jus are a stay long-long type of guest!
- *To reiterate: Xin2 going rate is $200 for Fridays and Saturdays and $150 for the other days. Mike hardly pays premium on this. He does however occasionally adds tips to make the situation seem natural! His aim is to limit her income capacity by depriving her time and capacity to seek out new prospects and build a steady customer base.
- The thing to do now is wear out a potential mistress. Mentally and physically. It is generally true that China mei-mei cannot hold their liquor, especially if they are relatively new in this line. (Different tactics are required for the more veterans / lao jiao – but for now let’s focus Xin2 case first!).
- First off, let me tell all that it is NOT that complicated as it seems. You also need not expand a lot of time and effort. Come on, it is not as if we are invading another country requiring Sun Tze’s strategies or Kong Ming’s cunning. We are talking about occupying a WL CUNTry and imposing your will on her so that she is made to do your sexual bidding (most of it anyway!)
- Secondly, some readers who want to take on a Mistress may bulk at the exorbitant amount of money involved. Not to worry. There is a “poor man’s” version – mainly for Jus whose pockets are not nearly as deep as his kakis. The secrets to this playbook and Masterstrokes involved, I too will share.
- Thirdly, a mistress is as different from a girl friend as night and day. A mistress will be obliged to do your bidding (until you really overstep the boundary). To get your girlfriend however to do anything kinky that she is uncomfortable with, is a process of negotiation. You need heavy duty persuasion and expand a lot of effort.
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Yes, I do recognize that love and sex can be expressed in a myriad of ways. Some prefer being the dominant party, others the submissive. One side of the scale is sheer hedonistic debauchery while the other side is celibacy. Having a Patron based Mistress relationship is certainly not for everyone. Numerous people are happy and contented to operate only within the matrix of a monogamous relationship. All are valid choices with no one superior over the other.
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However, the main thrust of my position is that the type of Robert a person who wants to be must be made in the context of choice. He should not settle at being a DFR just because he does NOT know better. Reading this thread and applying some of the skills that I will outline therein may just help him extract better value in the relationship. And if he still chooses to play the role of a DFR, it is then his personal choice.
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The loving scenario you painted between an Uninformed Robert and his love interest I am afraid is quite a “romanticized” notion. The Uninformed Robert usually is in that position because he does not know how to extract better value in the relationship. He overpays to get scraps of loving attention from his so called lover.
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Don’t leave with the impression that the Patron Roberts is like an Emperor, dishing orders which the mistress meekly comply. There many lovey dovey interactions involved. Loving scenes of buying presents, striving over cooking stove to prepare a meal, displays of care and concern are found in abundance in Patron Robert relationship too. I would dare say it more so as it serves the mistress interest to stroke the fires of the relationship in order to prolong the Robert’s Patronage.
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As for the normal ‘realism’ of interaction, Mike wants to exit the relationship with Xin2 because of her petty jealousy and insecurities which he find burdensome to deal with.
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To illustrate an life example of the precise situation I am talking about
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Originally Posted by
juzz
Truly enlightening. Upz u as appreciation
Much appreciated Brother Juzz. By the way, one of my signature songs during a KTV session is “Juzz the way you are”
I am at a quandary: Not sure if readers would like details pertaining to the Mistress Masterstroke #2 or just a cursory overview. Mistress Masterstroke #2 is rather long and can be long winded. By providing too many details, it would certainly bog down the pace of the narrative and might even bore some as it can be quite dry (as most “instructional” literatures invariably are).
So instead of providing detailed Method of Instruction, I will leave “bullet points”. I am sure many of the readers can fill in the lacunas (“missing bits”) to elaborate on this Masterstroke themselves.
Without seeing cash in her hands, psychologically Xin2 is affected and a sense of desperation prevails on a subconscious level. Xin2 will be thinking how come she works so hard but does not see money in her hands. At the back of their minds, WLs are generally fearful of being caught and repatriated. If this happens, they believe that they will lose out on what they painstakingly earned.
What Mike does is to offer Xin2 tips through the mummy (the minimum $150 to $200 applies). Mike would instruct the mummy to get Xin2 to sit with any business associates and friends of his that the Mummy recognised – at his cost. Mike is a classy guy. In addition to the complimentary bottle of cognac, he offers his friends and associate Xin2’s company together in the arrangement!!
It is an incredible Masterstroke, for not only would you business prospects be appreciative of that gesture (Impressive is for Mike not being here but yet still takes care of his business associates!).
Xin2 also foolishly thinks that Mike trusts her with an important job of taking care of his customers. In her reckoning, Mike is a good man. He gets and refers to her customers everyday. Mike esteem goes up in her eyes. What Xin2 does not recognise is that Mike is preventing her from building a customer base -even in his absence. The minimum amount of money offered for booking also serves to limit her income ceiling.
For added variety, instead of booking Xin2 for the whole session for him or his friends, he just call Xin2 to sit them i.e. Xin2 can continue to run tables. He makes this arrangement early, and tips her only $50 (remember that it is his intention to curtail her income potential).
Why? It is because once you sit a table, the WL is likely to not accept bookings. All the more so if she knows that her regular customer, Mike, is relying on her to take care of his esteemed guests. Xin2 also knows that she cannot leave Mike’s guest for too long an extended period unaccompanied. This limits the number of tables that Xin2 can run as she thinks that she cannot let down the thoughtful Mike who is her apparent benefactor.
) – effectively this an extension to the booking.
Note that all these actions and bookings averagely cost $6, 000 per month ($200 per day for 30 days to simplify things). And then note that Mike offers her $8, 000 per month on retainer. You can see how compelling it makes for Xin2 to accept Mike’s proposition from a financial point of view!!!
Its a truism most seasoned cheongster can understand: familiarity breeds contempt.
Sitting with regular for only a short while usually yields the same amount of tips (or even more as “gan qing”/rapport is established). Its therefore to a lady’s financial advantage to secure as many regulars as possible. Mike’s action is to slow down the process of “regular clientele building” or eliminate them together from Xin2 in order to make it more compelling to accept a retainer.
(Masterstroke #2 to be continued)
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Originally Posted by
Bangster
*applause*
Smooth like my man Billy Idol.
Upz upz upz
Appreciate the gesture Bangster. “upz upz upz” is also what I am hoping my banker and broker will be telling me today!
“Creating a Crutch Mentality”
The dollar proposition outlined above is accompanied by other manoeuvres working in tandem which I will soon elaborate.
I have earlier mentioned that a successful application of Masterstroke # 2 involves understanding the operational environment of the potential mistress. In Xin2 case, the context and her situation is such that for most of the time, it can already work in itself. – If the would be Patron is relatively young with acceptable looks!
Know however that Mike is no spring chicken (to put it mildly).
Going out with him is like father/daughter relationship. WLs tend to be more reluctant to accept being a mistress if he looks like DOM. As such, added measures must be taken.
We all know that in general woman’s enzymatic process is not as efficient as men’s when it comes to breaking down alcohol in the system. By taxing her system this way, it makes her very tired. Making the job easier for the Patron is the Job Requirements of being a hostess. It demands that Xin2 imbibes alcohol. It is therefore almost unavoidable for her to drink.
Again a lot of men know to that alcohol mixes are the most potent way to inebriation. In a KTV session unlike a pub, the girls cannot regulate her alcohol consumption. Mike would get the Mummy to toast with Xin2 (often neat). Peer pressure and Mummy pressure make refusal difficult.
If Xin2 has another table at another room (tips paid for by Mike), the drink would invariably be also different. Red wine and cognac does not really sit well it appears for Xin2.
As for pretending to drink (when in actual fact didn’t). Forget it. Mike has businesses in China and he is familiar with all the ’tricks of the trade’. He “monitors” Xin2 alcohol consumption.
Why get her drunk if not to bed her? Simply put: it is to wear her down in her working environment. So that when respite comes in the offer of being a mistress, she is more receptive to the idea. (Note however that some girls may develop a tolerance – and indeed a liking for alcohol – relatively quickly. In this instance other ‘stokes’ needed to be quickly applied. This is not true in Xin2 case however).
Next comes “the blitz” in order to wear her down. Several consecutive days of reinforced binging. Get her drunk and get her to come home as late (supper can be thrown in – but Xin2 sometimes refused because she is truly tired) as possible. And the next day make her come for Happy Hour at TAM. She cannot refuse this work load. Mike also uses two different sets of mummy (And the TAM one is very strict).
With insufficient downtime to recover – especially knowing Mike – it will unrelenting pressure. In effect, Xin2 goes to work, comes back home to rest, and then it back to work again.
Know this key difference: in an ordinary setting, sometimes the WL would drink herself silly but other days she can end up with little alcohol in her system (which allows her to recover). Mike strategy to get rid of this randomness and make her truly exhausted.
(Frankly, I myself after two heavy days of drinking finds it dam difficult and exhausting to continue cheonging on third day.
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Once the drink “blitz” or binge is set in motion, Mike now plays the hero. He books her and then instead of the usual KTV sessions, he takes her to movies or a simple meal with an early night out for her to rest. The Mike as “knight in shining armour” thoughts being to percolate in Xin2 mind. The DOM natural ‘revulsion’ of an “old man” begins to recede a little.
Several other steps must be taken to complete the groundwork .. (to be continued)
Reality Blog Update:
Jus called Xin2 to enquire on her well being. This is done with Terrence’s Blessing – and yes, he is still interested in having Xin2 under his retainer!
Xin2 replied that she is feeling restless and invited Jus for a movie. Jus declined as he has something to do (like writing this thread !!!!).
Jus however promised Xin2 that he will take Xin2 to 3 no mummy system KTV for her to “look-see, look-see” this week.
I would like to do some house keeping of the idea of Mistress and Masterstrokes at this junction:
A huge dose of common sense, some experience (Mike, Hua, Terrence and Jus have literally decades of experience) with a dash of audacity (“balls”, “Chutzpah”, “Lum Pah”) to frame the proposition.
For example (I did not cover this yet). When you enervate or drain a WL in order to make work seem a one big chore, besides getting her to imbibe alcohol like crazy, you would also want her to dash round from room to room, the further the better.
As an illustration:
Kabuki (pre- renovation) operates in two floors 6th and 7th floor. Arrange for two floors tai for would be mistress prospect and then get the mummy to constantly pressure her not to leave Tai for too long. Tip the mummy well ($100 goes a long way) and give mistress prospect only $50-$80 per room,
The same goes for Havelock Road Clubs. 3rd Floor Club Infinitude and 2nd Floor share same management. Have one additional tai at 5th Floor Las Vegas. The running up and down will surely deplete her.
Even for “no mummy” systems, we can utilize space. For Amani, book two separate rooms (one some in number 100 and one somewhere near number 600). The same apply for Macau KTV as is Dongmen (Zara). Even less fancy establishments like New Shanghai (Geylang Lorong 7) have two floors 3rd and 4th.
How to get the girls running like mad when there is no mummy to control? Use basic common sense … let you guys figure out a little before I proffer a ‘solution’ that we often use.
Obviously, when I say poor, I am speaking metaphorically here. Let’s face it, you will need some degree of financial leverage. Let me also state at the outset that with the “budget’ version, it does limit your range of choice. You will need to ‘pre-select’ the girls with certain predisposition and apply the masterstrokes accordingly. And if you are old and aesthetically challenged (one ugly MF), you will need to work a little smarter. And your choice gets smaller. But know this: you can still get a pretty girl to be your mistress.
I recently came across a thread in the KTV section on “…Roberts to feed”. Let me tell you the examples cited are NOT keeping mistress as I know it. It’s a girlfriend based relationship and you give money (even if it is for her to stop working) in order to negotiate some love onto you. And from this love, you can hopefully get some ‘loving’ i.e. sex.
Give you a lurid and lucid example: In the earlier post I mentioned about shoving Mahjong tiles in Xin2 pussy after a game of strip mahjong. We are not talking about Mike being the only person who puts the tiles into Xin2’s pussy. Terrence, Hua and Jus also joined in the fun. For Mahjong aficionados, it gives the term “Chi moh” (pronounced in Hokkien like ‘pussy hair’) a whole new definition. For this to happen, Mike essentially ‘commands’ Xin2 to indulge him. Xin2, while may not be very happy (although she was laughing during the game), if falls within her ‘comfort zone’ will acquiesce to it. And the comfort zone in a mistress based relationship vis-à-vis girl friend based is mile wider. (By the way, even if the girl laughs until body is quivering, the pussy muscle still hold the mahjong tile in place. At least in Xin2 case!)
Now, try to have that same game with a girlfriend based, used money to buy love (and maybe hopefully sex) and see how far it will go!
Bear with me here, and imbibe some of the lessons that I will share. Periodically join in the discussion too. There are the Patron Roberts (which is what I am advocating) and there are the Dumb Fuck Roberts. I know which side I am choosing ….
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Originally Posted by
Bazic606
, I am not a DFR nor a smart-PR. As objective as I can be, I am trying to understand the existence of these two types of Roberts. And how did they co-exist for the longest time. Of cos, I prefer to be “bao” by the ger if you let me have the choice, hahahaha….I am just kidding.
You are being very modest Bro Bazic. You chances of being kept by a woman are certainly higher than that of the old geezers of the Mistress Brotherhood. Based on looks alone, it would take Susan Boyle winning FHM “Babe of the Year” AND Singapore winning the football World Cup before a woman would even CONSIDER taking on any of the DOM as lovers.
Also thanks for the wonderful post. I absolutely get and appreciate the purport of your post.
By the way, the term DFR (Dumb Fuck Roberts) are intentionally made derisory and in fun, to create some flavour in the prose. No malice intended. The more accurate terminology is the ‘Uninformed Robert’. It is my hope that the Uninformed Robert would become a little more knowledgeable and then exercise his choice accordingly.
: I once had a good friend who had spent half of his salary for a girl he is heads over heels in love with for four months in succession. When I asked him what did he get in return (physically or emotionally), he said that he is contented with just making her happy. He says that he derives his happiness from her happiness.
My first gut instinct is what a load of crap! I was quite shocked at this ‘self – deluded’ sense of being romantic. (Actually I was more stunned that he did not even tongue her once.).
Since he is my friend, and giving him a benefit of the doubt, I decided to probe further.
Starting with simple self apparent and revealing questions: Would you prefer if QiQi hugs you more often on her accord? Do you not like her to kiss you? Will it feel good if QiQi kisses? Describe the sensation you would feel when QiQi kisses you? As I probed further and forced out many little truths, the stark reality slowly emerges. We (both my friend and I) realized that he actually wants some affectionate physicality in the expression of their so call relationship. The only thing holding back is that he does not know how to proceed and steer the relation into what he wants and so settles with what he gets (the Uninformed Robert).
To cut the long story short, I became Master (“he may have a short dick but notice the long curved fingers”) Yoda and showed this Padawan friend of mine some masterstrokes to extract more value in the relationship. He did (extract more value) and he also did her.
The act of ‘consumation’ is actually something he longs for but sublimated this longing because of his lack of confidence and knowledge on how to proceed!!!
In summary, if you want to choose to be an Uninformed Robert by all means. But recognize this caveat: make sure that you experience life as a Patron Robert first. Then see if you ever want to come back!
A mind once expanded can never go back to being the same.
An update on the Reality Blog front:
Terrence had just gotten back from the Middle East. During a small get together a hawker stall (drinking Avocado shake), Terrence mentioned that he has quite heavy work load on his return and that he would be taking a rain check in joining the brothers for “cheong” sessions until next week. He will however get his rocks off with a ‘regular girl’ that he periodically activated from Macau KTV. This is a tall and fair ChongQing girl with average size hooters whom Terrence claimed screamed “like as if being murdered” enroute to orgasm (as if …. Men like to flatter themselves!).
Terrence also shared that he wanted to spend some quality time with his wife. In response, Terrence was greeted with expletives and given the finger.
Anyway, Terrence maintained that he still wants to make Xin2 his mistress. Yes, he is steadfast about the price – SGD 6, 000. He is of the view that SGD 6, 000 would represent fair and good value given this economic climate. And if Xin2 finds it too little or demeaning, she can go “ply her golden pussy at Geylang”.
Terrence also mentioned that he had contacted Xin2 only once during his trip and since his return. And that only Xin2 informed him that she is still considering his offer. He retorted to her that the offer is not indefinite and “got expiry date”.
Mike takes a detached view of the proceedings. He finds the situation amusing and hilarious. Mike also jokingly points out that Terrence wants “Tua Liap Nee” on the cheap. The subtle interpretation to this comment is Mike feels that the money is too little to provide sufficient inducement. It is well noting Mike’s view. He, after all, is exposed (literally and figuratively) to Xin2 money habits. We shall see as the transfer drama unfolds …. (kinda reminiscent of Ronaldo’s purported transfer to Real Madrid I feel).
Jus mentioned that he is supposed to take Xin2 to different KTV to investigate the scene. The plan did not come to fruition because Jus cannot find the time to do so.
Terrence suggests to Jus (don’t whether spoken tongue in cheek or not) to take her to SG, BS, New Shanghai to “see if she can survive the competition” as she is already spoilt by a certain lifestyle afforded under Mike’s patronage.
(Potential Mistress Patrons take note: the masterstroke is such a powerful tool, after you develop the ‘crutch mentality’ you will blunt a mistress competitive edge. Much like a lion bred in captivity, it will lose its hunting prowess over time!)
Will Xin2 accept Terrence indecent proposal?
(Only time will tell: but if I were to place a bet, I would say the chance is rather slim. Prevaricating on decisions, prolonging decision making time and “too much mulling over” usually a portends a negative answer. We shall see ….)
Just to state the obvious:
Terrence approach to get a gal to be his mistress is very different from Mike, Hua and Jus. He prefers the direct route. (Football analogy: long ball versus possession football).
Terrence of course knows the Masterstrokes. He however only serves them to stunners. Xin2 , while undoubtedly beautiful and will turn heads when she walks, however fell a little short in Terrence’s criterion on when to apply the Masterstroke. Terrence wants the gal to be “jaw dropping beautiful” as well before he expands the effort.
For the rest, they will apply the Masterstroke as soon as they identify a prospect whom they want to be their mistress.
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Originally Posted by
ken li
BTW, as ur write up continues, I hope you will also have something on
ending the patronage
. I have always wondered if there are various ways to reduce consequential annoyance (apart from the player transfer you are now describing).
Hi Ken,
Yes, I do intend to touch on the topic of “ending the patronage”. Emotions, especially one that emanates from a woman scorned scenario (“Hell has no fury like a woman scorned”) can be notoriously hard to predict. There are times where mistresses exited with a sweet smile of gratitude and times whereby the reactions are that of the melodramatic, “Fatal Attraction” proportions. If the latter scenario prevails, let me tell you that “Consequential annoyance” (I like this turn of phase) will seem like a welcome relief.
That being said, there are certain actions that can (and indeed must) be taken to reduce the intensity of negative reactions. Note that negative reactions can be ‘others’ directed (lashing out at those all around, especially the ex Patron and his circle of friends and family) or ‘self’ directed (whereby the spurned mistress does violence – physical and mental – upon herself). We will want to mitigate and move away from these two unpleasant reactions. Will show you how we have done so (reducing the negative reactions through the years!)
Despite the literally hundreds of mistress the Brotherhood that has come and gone through the years, “Player transfer” (especially between one member of the group to another) is a new experience altogether for us. We are all still learning.