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Originally Posted by
horninomy
Hihi, just want to chime in abit to also see another perspective so it can lead to better discussions. I do agree deposits are a little off putting, but a deposit also ensures clients dont fly kite.
Most people will opt for incalls which means must have a place on standby which is fixed overhead. if a cliet suddenly ghost and fly kite, the FL is left with a 1 hour slot vacant because of no show and thus lost of income.
So now the question is what can be done to so both consumer and provider are happy?
Ask consumer to show live location an hour prior to booking to make sure he is really on the way. This is enough. I don’t think people are that free to come all the way down and then become a no-show, completely wasting his time travelling (unless the person he is meeting looks completely way off from what she posted). I even do this to date if the girl wants assurance that I won’t cancel last minute even when I’m still coming to pick her up. Once she can see where he is exactly, it eliminates these ’no shows’. Won’t you get a peace of mind that he is really coming and you can see where he is exactly? Likewise for independent FLs, get the guy to come pick you up (if they have car) or have them pay for transport to pick you up and go to the hotel/location (if it has been agreed to) but ensure the guy’s live location tracking is on so he is REALLY there. Need deposit for fuck? Like as if noshows didn’t exist back then when forced deposits weren’t a thing. Until whores decided to play the greed card.
I see your account is freshly created in Dec 2025 with this being your only post. Are you one of the independent FLs in Dome L using a clone account to chat here to ‘speak up’ for your fellow FLs?
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Originally Posted by
timeliness
Clients reserve the right to reject upon seeing the FL in person, so no deposit/rejection fees. A video of the surrounding location 5 to 10 mins before the scheduled meeting time should be good enough.
Or like another bro suggested, live location 1 hour before meeting time to show them that he’s on the way.
Still waiting for this clone account to reply to our logical suggestions. Unless she got the substance to use her main account to reply us
I also want to know the logic behind this ‘rejection fee’ that ONLY local FLs demand for. Boggles my mind.
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Originally Posted by
Xgenre
If sex is just a transaction to you, please stick to Geylang legal houses and the joints advertised here. Why choose local fl if you are so inflexible? She just told you she has never met anyone before and she doesn’t know how to proceed. She needs someone to lead her safely through the process. In exchange, you get a non-commercial experience because she is a newbie.
After what she had shared, you should be thinking of how to proceed to the next stage. From each person chatting behind a phone/laptop to having sex in person. I would have bought her a meal or coffee in a crowded venue. Somewhere safe where she can retreat if she feels uncomfortable. By the end of the meal/coffee, I will ask her if she will like to proceed. Let her form an opinion of you.
If this is too beyond you, stick to Geylang or places where having sex is more certain. It’s a waste you didn’t have a plan. Think through so that you can handle it better if a similar situation arises.
I didn’t choose her, she came to approach me first? They’re just potential options for me if negotiations are successful. Who says I’m inflexible? I ALWAYS make the effort to find middle ground when it comes to arranging something. It’s just these bitches who want everything their way, they’re the inflexible ones with unreasonable demands. I won’t go all out to choose a local FL because I have had a lot of negative experiences with them. I have so many options here to choose from? IF i come across a decent one who doesn’t talk out of her ass with really low EQ, getting triggered easily like the one I’m talking about, I would definitely love to meet her if the price isn’t at delusional levels. You give such a negative impression of yourself and starting fights with your potential paymaster, who the fuck wants to engage with you?
Lol talk is cheap. You talk as if you can chat any young FL up and get them to meet over coffee when you don’t know how horrible this person is, unable to even hold a decent proper conversation without finding ways to piss the other party off.
I already said she has been trying for so long and not still not a single person wants to even meet up with her? You can’t read between the lines to see that SHE is the entitled problematic one? I’m sorry I know a simp when I see one.
You have to stop putting local whores on a pedestal.
I met enough local whores already both good and bad over the years I’m just talking about the new gen of entitled bitches who ask for the skies and simps like you LOVE giving in to them and also go lengths to defend them lol.
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Originally Posted by
sbwow
Awesome response. Guiding the lesser men with baby steps while elevating your position as a gentleman. HAHAHA.
there is a difference between being a true gentleman and a doormat beta male who gets trampled on and manipulated by girls aka Simp.
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Originally Posted by
timeliness
Some lump the rejection fee together with this deposit, imagine see all the filtered PS photo then go down and end up having blue balls coz the photos were taken 10 years ago and wallet leaving $100 lighter…
Like that we should also start claiming rejection fees from the girls coz they look too far off from what’s acceptable from their pics tio bo?
I know of one of the FLs in dome L now that I met before last time before she even advertised here. The pics she is using now were taken over 10 years + ago and she also increased her price almost 3x now. All the FRs are overwhelmingly positive. Nobody even mentioning that they’re shortchanged by the pictures not matching how she looks like IRL (she put on a LOT of weight). Totally believable man.
Imagine it’s you being cheated like this, u see a slim girl advertised, you book her then she turns out to be a fucking whale. And she STILL asks you for rejection fees.
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Originally Posted by
scouringstick
Amanda ah? Hahaha. Precisely.. old recycled pics being used all over
Bingo. I don’t think she is the only one who does this crap. She’s also a compulsive liar. The fake FRs are sickening to read.
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Originally Posted by
timeliness
There was another local FL who advertised doing male squirting, so I went to book and try out of curiosity, only for her to say in my face that it depends on different people.
The thing was.. I see her liao I also lost all urge to stand, let alone try the squirt lol. But it’s been a few years already so don’t ask me who, coz I also forgot le.
Did u reject her on the spot? Did she ask for rejection fees?
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Originally Posted by
Quaghog
That’s why I’m very skeptical of all FRs here in this forum. At least 90% of FRs is fake one across all Domes.
Some write got dragon got phoenix but in reality is totally polar opposite of what they wrote. But still got dumb idiots defending
The ones defending are the clone accounts themselves. This forum is full of fakery it has become a joke.
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Originally Posted by
horninomy
Hihi, in no way am I speaking for either side. I just creating dialogue and observing cause I have thoughts of entering the FL scene but I will take my time to do some research to fix up my T&Cs. By creating constructive dialogue maybe other FLs can also adjust their policies.
I too agreed with you that deposits are kinda rubbish in my previous post so please dont misunderstand me. Im just looking to understanding the pain points of consumers and providers before starting business.
Location sharing makes sense for outcall services. but what about incalls because that seems like a preferred option for most bros.
Incall/outcall doesn’t make a difference when location services are used to track the person’s whereabouts what? Another bro even mentioned taking a video of surroundings when he reaches the location, so aren’t all those fair enough to show that the person is genuine and is not a not-show/troll/time waster instead of asking for stupid deposits?
And yes, deposits are rubbish but we cannot stop desperate doormat simps from doing this and feeding this bad practice which should NEVER be a thing in the first place.
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Originally Posted by
sa101666
The only way for them to stop this shit is for the simps to stop giving deposits. If people keep giving them deposits, why would they stop?
Simps are the root cause of this since they willingly give in and won’t argue or question why things are this way etc. Take a look at the previous page here and you see a post made by a simp beta cuck who thinks he’s being a ‘classy gentleman’ to these whores. Lol who’s going to tell him that the bitch doesn’t care and they prefer doormat losers like them who give in to their demands no matter what and can milk them dry for their stupidity and ease to manipulate? They think being simps will make the whores go head over heels for them? This brand of losers really need a slap in the face to wake up to reality.