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Originally Posted by
ByLeft
I’m not talking about those that here for long term. The new girls how? If newly arrived already have fake bad reviews by the trolls, how to build regular customers? Fake bad reviews can really hurt their business as many bros camp for FRs first.
Like keima said, some come here for a few days already BTH and go back already.
I’m not worrying for them, there’s plenty of FLs around. Not white knight here and i dont support have deposit. Just sharing what i heard from the freelancers.
I don’t think it is that kuazhang for them to just post only and get 1049208404 bad reviews from trolls in one instant like that. There are bound to have people who have tried them and leave some positive reviews at least. I don’t believe they have 0 clients at all, no such thing. Unless you telling me she’s butt ugly unattractive.
Some super negative reviews are justified when I tried contacting them myself, for the misunderstood, this is probably a very low percentage. The ones with too much positive FRs are more of the fake ones. FL was extremely rude when trying to arrange a session. Didn’t proceed because she was fucked up and what did the reviews say about her? lol. That’s why I said reviews don’t matter much. She can start afresh with a new account if she cares so much about her ‘rep’. Lots of local FLs do it.
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Originally Posted by
Johanbass
Stupid motherfucker
He PMed me on this. He said the ‘girl’ sent a guy for him to meet to collect the money at Raffles Place. Probably the ‘girl’ is this guy the entire time. He saw the dude but didn’t go up to him but the next day talked about meeting her in Dhoby Ghaut and stupidly went to transfer $500 instead. What the fuck? He want to test water, do it with $5 or something la not $500!
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Originally Posted by
notanexpert
My golden days were 2016-2017, could get decent local FLs for maybe 450/1/1.
Even for PRCs FLs, they were accurate to their advertised age. If they used fake photos, they were also not landmine cases, so still can proceed. Now you have FLs advertising as mid 20s but they are actually mid-late 30s.
In my golden period where I had most fun with local FLs, (for me it was between late 2016-2019) they all charge $300 and below eh. Their age ranges from late teens to mid-late 20s FLs. Think you overpaid. Even for BBBJ quickies can be had for 150 or lesser if you know how to negotiate. Now you see how much more they charging. I remembered one whore originally charging $150 back in the days for car BBBJ and then suddenly seeing her charge 3x the price now for the same thing. Simps will still pay and spoil market on top of giving in to their retarded ‘deposit before meet’ bullshit.
It’s hard to argue with female logic sometimes for these local independent FLs. Once I met this FL in 2024 who charged me 100 for a BBBJ quickie. Fickle minded bitch kept trying to cancel the first meet last minute but I managed to make her still come out to meet me. Was bang average, but boobs quite big, not complaining much because where to find local FL pricing this low. Not fat neither ugly, average looking. Then she did randomly text me a few days later and asked me if she should keep this price or increase it. She was lamenting the fact that she needs money on one specific night but can’t find people. I told her to keep it low and you easily can have more regulars if they like your service? She said ok will keep this pricing. Then 2 weeks later I needed a release so I remembered her, I texted her to arrange something but she told me she is increasing her price to $250 for the same service ‘as it is the market rate’. Apparently she lied about keeping her price. Smlj market rate? I told her I don’t agree with this sudden 150% jump in price as I can’t justify a reason for it. Probably some retarded simp with too much money paid her that amount once and she immediately got arrogant and thinks she is worth this much. This low class whore started calling me names and blocked me.
Let me share something I experienced with local FLs in the recent years. This is very common especially if the bitch is Gen Z. Gonna use one example. Chatted with this bitch in her early 20s who was selling her body. She kept insisting on seeing my face pic. I asked her how is this relevant? Got one of the most retarded responses ever.
‘To see if we have chemistry’
I explained to her what does ‘chemistry’ mean in this context then she started getting really offended and said I’m ugly and poor etc. I laughed at off and called her a dumb bitch. I said if you care about how the guy looks, using this as selection criteria when you’re asking to be paid for a sexual transaction, you’re delusional. Suggested her to go to a dating app if she cares about looks so much. She lost her head and started saying she’s going to sue me LOL.
Yeah, lots of gen Z bitches who wanna sell their bodies, exploring this line tend to be this retarded and entitled, thinking the world revolves around them. Want to see your face etc. Long time ago, I was asked for ‘pic exchange’, sent my face pic first and bitch didn’t fulfill her side of the deal and never sent her pic back. Privacy matters, so I never ever send them ever again especially with lots of dumb bitches who double cross you like this, working as whores.
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Originally Posted by
antimax
I totally agree with you bro about these Gen Z bitches. I do sugaring quite often but nowadays in order to find that 1 or 2 gems, I have to go through and deal with tons of brainless gen z who are obviously out to sell their bodies (but sugar baby is a nicer word to bluff themselves), demands crazy prices even though they are just normal next-door plain girls, and yet still requests for vibe and chemistry check, and some even have the most ridiculous long-list of dont’s in bed
Seen some with flat chests, no butt, plain jane face (some even below average) and they amount they demanding is lmao plus the long ass list of what they don’t do and some including no BBBJ la, everything also cannot. They expecting kumgong guys to rain money on them. Fucking delusional cunts. Gen Z whores are just amplifying the levels of the entitlement they have as compared to the rest. Whoever giving in to their demands are contributing to the problem.
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Originally Posted by
antimax
Yup there are simps that are giving in to their demands because sometimes when i give it to these gen z girls about their ridiculous demands and unrealistic expectations, their typical reply is “but the previous guy is okay with all of them leh”.
Got once a malaysian gen z still can tell me it’s because i don’t earn enough that’s why i think her asking price is too high. But the fact is she doesn’t deserve the amount she is asking for. You don’t pay ferrari/lambo price for a jap car. But nowadays so many dumb gen z thinks they are all exotic italian supercars
Eh same. Got one dumb bitch told me her previous SD always pay her $700 per meet and I refused to because I don’t think she makes the cut for that price tag with how she looks. She said ’the previous one paid me that amount so I’m not going any lower than that. Price is fixed’. Fuck off lol. It’s not even an SD SB thing in the fucking first place. It’s just a one off paid sexual transaction.
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Originally Posted by
oldmanmanman
you never just shoot her. “you are just a whore, stop putting yourself on a pedestal”
They all after a while will clear chat and block me leh. Their signature move.
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Xgenre
2 potential reasons. 1 is she is trying to scam you. Once you have shown your face, she may threaten to post screenshots of your chat plus the photo. Then you have to buy her silence.
Secondly, she is in her early 20s and isn’t short of customers. She wants to screen her customers to make sure age gap isn’t too big. Suitable race etc. She can do so if she isn’t meeting that many guys or if she already has a regular base. With a regular base, she can be more selective about new guys.
Geylang or the ad hoc massage shops make be easier. Just as young, cheaper in price
After a bit of chatting with her, she’s just exploring being in this line for quick easy money but with her long list of demands and requirements, I think she might end up not even meeting anyone ever. She has never met anyone despite chatting with many over a couple of weeks. Clearly the problem is with her. Age young so what, if you piss everyone off during the chatting/nego phase, can’t even hold a conversation, (many gen Z whores are dead texters in the first place, expecting the guy to carry while they got nothing to give back in return, take ages to reply or give nonsensical responses like lol or HAHAHAH, followed by dead silence again) Nobody even fucking wants you lmao. I’ve spoken to a lot of gen Z whores who are like this. It’s like they’re waiting for some drop dead gorgeous K pop boyband star lookalike/ang moh stud to sweep her off her feet, offer thousands then she agrees to meet him for paid sex.
Imagine needing to be good looking and rich just to fit her criteria while she is average/ugly and asking for thousands of dollars and to be doted on like a princess. If you got the looks/body then it’s a different story as you can justify a high price tag but from what I see most are either ugly or super duper plain Janes with no tits no ass. They need a hard bitch slap back to reality. Life is not a korean drama/hollywood movie.
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samdiy
Agree easy to lose deposit as the tiniest excuse like you take too long to show up because instructions were unclear etc
As for foreign FLs the ones from a country North of Thailand ask for payment upfront but sometimes after just 10 minutes of service ask you to hurry up or go for hj not even bj when you have paid for fj 1 hr. Really miss the service levels before Covid.
I dealt with some local FLs last time who kept using really lame excuses like suddenly ‘sick’ when it comes to meeting on the day itself. But thankfully that time, this deposit bullshit wasn’t a thing. Imagine if you paid a deposit to get this kind of dogshit response just moments before meeting. She keeps conveniently postponing on you and your deposit is gone liao because she just cheated you. All stuff like this just shows how fucking stupid the deposit thing is, other than the whore telling you that she’s greedy af.
FLs asking for payment before service is a standard thing. It’s just a matter of whether they give good service or not. If service is bad, then consider your money wasted.
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Originally Posted by
timeliness
FLs asking for payment before service is standard, but asking for service even before meeting is a big red flag no for me.
Till now I still don’t understand why we as the paymaster must be subjected to such unreasonable deposit and rejection terms.
Take a peek at Dome L and also non SBF local FLs (elsewhere), most of them adopted this retarded practice. Simps giving in to their demands is the only reason keeping them afloat. It is the root of the problem. If every cheongster is sensible and could think logically, they will never pay this retarded deposit and make these whores go back to the regular COD system as that is the norm the whole time.