- The “Hot-State” Decision Gap
- The “Safety” Moral Reversal
- Weaponized Stigma & Silence
- The Sunk Cost & Escalation
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Originally Posted by
Zornic
Actually now with the age of digitization, I wonder why most of these illegal providers not using technology for it. Instead of transferring fiat deposits to them, why not create a smart contract so that when the service provider fulfilled their end of the contract they get paid if the contract is not fulfilled then we get back the deposit. The contract doesn’t need to be super complicated too, since it just basic transaction needs to be fulfilled.
And this is also more anonymously albeit not 100% untraceable. I doubt people doesn’t know anything about crypto right with so many people using internet now. And somemore of most these FLs and people who visits them are likely internet savvy youngsters since they can know about this forum.
We can make do the deposit thing completely as the best solution but these whores still insist on deposits so maybe your suggestion might work. Since most of the payment is done digitally anyway, get the platform to create a smart contract. The money gets transferred to them but placed on hold for 24 hours, only after services were fulfilled then the transferrer could update in the app and the FL gets the money. Anyway, the client still needs to meet the FL irl and pay the remainder of the amount (the prices are still crazy high anyway) so take the held deposit as like ’extra tips for good service’ if she performs to his expectations. But best solution is to get SG parliament to pass a bill to outlaw this entirely (deposit for sexual services as an extremely high risk of a scam) and let’s see how local FLs scramble and react.
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Originally Posted by
Btbh
Come let AI enlighten you - see below
It can seem baffling from the outside, but these Telegram scams are highly effective because they use a “pincer maneuver” of biology and psychology. Scammers aren’t just selling a service; they are exploiting a specific window of cognitive vulnerability.
Here is the psychological breakdown of why men continue to fall for the “deposit-then-block” scam.
The single biggest reason these scams work is the Hot-Cold Empathy Gap.
• The Science: When a person is sexually aroused (a “hot” state), their brain functions differently. Research shows that arousal significantly reduces the ability to weigh risks or detect lies.
• The Tactic: Scammers send provocative, “live” looking photos or videos immediately. This keeps the victim in a state of high arousal and low logic. In this “hot” state, a $50 deposit feels like a small hurdle to a big reward, whereas, in a “cold” state, the same person would see it as an obvious red flag.
Scammers flip the script to make the victim feel like the “bad guy” if they don’t pay.
• The Tactic: The scammer claims the deposit is for “screening,” “insurance,” or “protection against time-wasters/police.”
• The Psychology: This triggers Moral Licensing. The victim wants to prove they are a “serious” and “safe” client. By paying, they aren’t just buying a service; they are buying the status of being a “gentleman.” The scammer turns a financial transaction into a test of character.
Scammers rely on the “shame barrier” to prevent people from warning others.
• The Tactic: Operating on Telegram, which is private and encrypted.
• The Psychology: If you get scammed buying a laptop on eBay, you tell your friends and call your bank. If you get scammed trying to hire a sex worker, you likely tell no one. Scammers know that the victim’s fear of social suicide (being “outed”) acts as a shield, allowing the scammer to keep the same profile active for months without being reported or exposed.
Once a man sends even a small “gas money” or “booking” fee, he is psychologically “all in.”
• The Psychology: To stop now is to admit he was “tricked.” Most people would rather send another $20 to “fix” a supposed payment error than admit the first $50 is gone.
• The Tactic: After the first deposit, the scammer often says, “The agency system didn’t see the payment, send it again with a ‘verification code’ and I’ll refund the first one.” This exploits Cognitive Dissonance—the victim ignores the red flags to protect their ego from the reality of being scammed.
The “Golden Rule” of the industry is: No money moves until you are in the same room. Scammers have turned the “deposit” into a standard industry lie. If they ask for a cent before the door opens—whether for “gas,” “safety,” or “booking”—the chance of it being a scam is effectively 100%.
I can be swayed when in the ‘hot’ state especially if the FL manages to convince me well enough that she is a real girl with a hot bod. That’s how I got burnt last time. She sent me a video of her playing with her tits (no face, but I was so horny that time and age that I didn’t know it might actually be a random video stolen from the internet) and that’s how i lost $30. She got the ’taxi fare’ and blocked me after that.
But right now I ask for way more verification and to see if she passes it. Like send custom pics/video/voice recording previews. I’ll be more convinced that she might be legit and more willing to take the risk if the deposit is not an insane amount. But despite being in this ‘hot’ state, after some time, I will snap out of it and come to my senses and not do it because I will remember the times I got scammed for sending deposits over first. So yeah, never working on me.
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Originally Posted by
poolbear
bro, fully agree with you , the FL system now is totally rubbish
Only for local FLs. We still have dome 1-3 to choose from with no deposit bullshit.
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Originally Posted by
Btbh
Don’t need to go that far la. If the girl wants $50 deposit for $1k service. You tell her no deposit but pass you $1k + $100 instead in person. If still get rejected, you already have your answer. Whatever reason they give why they reject is all bs cause no one legit will reject more $ than advertised
Don’t lose your common sense just because the scammer send u some ai generated tits
In the first place if she is charging 1k for a shot and doesn’t have the looks/body to match and still asking for deposit, i will tell her to fuck off lol. Even if she has a pretty face and good body, 1k is way too steep unless she can abide to my requests to make the price worth.
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Originally Posted by
cuteboy123
Got where else to find local FLs now?
You can try your luck with sugarbook. It’s not for people with low budgets.
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Originally Posted by
Keima
No. Ive been informed that the prank bookings in Singapore are worse here than in Shanghai.
I was chatting with a couple of euro freelancers on telegram, they left Singapore within four days as they all kept getting trolled by fake booking. It’s not a new phenomenon, local FLs have complained about trolls since SBF started. From the FL perspective, they may book an expensive hotel for the weekend and arrange two/three slots a day, so a fake booking is 1/3rd their daily ‘income’.
On the other side, I see there are scammers milking bros for $150 deposits now using Paynow. It’s up to you to make a police report, rant typing on a forum may be cathartic, but it does zero to stop the scammers.
I don’t frequent Dome L. The last SG girl I saw was a minah ML who used to escort in Dome L and left to do ML as it was a steadier income and zero agent commission. I stick to Dome 3 vietbus as I get the best balance of cost, performance and looks.
Trolls exist but it’s also the local FL’s due diligence on her end to check if these pranksters even booked those expensive hotels for the weekend. Something as simple as asking for booking proof etc. Checking with the hotel to see if this guest did book a stay for this period, list goes on. They set themselves up to get trolled if they believe everything that’s too good to be true. This one is on them.
Making a police report is useless if you fall victim to a sex scam. SPF doesn’t give a damn unless it’s a huge amount of people reporting/large amounts of money involved. And I think a lot of people are too embarrassed to even make a police on this and just let it slip and take it as a lesson learnt on now to trust scammers passing off as local FLs. Even my basic scam cases (non sex related, transaction issues with shitter seller) reported to them, it took them 5 years to reply me with a follow up and I already resolved them on my own. That’s how useless our police force are. Unless there is an intervention from higher up beings like MPs, they are going to sleep on these reports.
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Originally Posted by
Btbh
All the hot and power in bed local girls are on sugarbaby websites or Onlyfans or streamers
Local FLs is scrapping the btm of the barrel imo
Oh ya there is another a new trend I see with local FLs also promoting their ‘membership’ services proving access to their private tele channels. This is their answer to OF, they provide pics and videos and ask simps to pay like $50 for their ‘content’. Some asking for one time payment while some ask for monthly fees. This is on top of them already asking for deposits for regular sex services.
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This is a scam tactic also. I’ve seen ‘FLs’ asking people to pay a ‘one time payment’ to join their private channel for access to their ’exclusive content’. Some ask to join while some ask you to pay for their ‘content’ individually. (like one pic, one video) Then go on saying that if you ‘bought enough’ from them, they can qualify to meet them for sex services. Already sounds like a fucking joke to me. Ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by
ByLeft
This is what i heard from many freelancers as well. Other than prank bookings, there’s many time wasters that just want to chat with them but not booking at the end. Saw some messages that these dudes sent to the FLs, some ask for nudes, some ask for discount, some ask what they’re doing all this like wtf???
First off i dont go to Dome L so i’m not voicing out for them. The price just not worth it and i dont want to pay deposit as well.
Agreed there’s no use ranting, just support other domes. It’s just killing brain cells dwelling about it.
They can just ignore these people if they have no intention to book what? It’s a small issue they can easily resolve on their own??? If these time wasters don’t secure a booking within a stipulated amount of time then ignore/block them. It’s that simple. Do they need people to think for them? lol. From the very start, in their ads they can indicate no small talk etc, only strictly for bookings. Still not a good excuse to force a deposit.
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Originally Posted by
ByLeft
The problem is that when they ignore the time wasters, they write fake bad reviews on them. Some people really bo liao la, there’s bound to be bad apples.
lol reviews are not 100% trustable in the first place. Look at here, we’re swarming with a ton of fake reviews and only hear the good stuff (with everything negative removed by mods since these whores are paid advertisers) if they are that good, they will definitely have regulars what? Worry for what?
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Originally Posted by
Keima
Wah bro, you’re solutions seem very straightforward, then if everyone listened to you, the SG FL world will be all hunkydory!
I’ve chatted with a couple of girls who were hounded out of SG by the trolls - one sent me a screenshot. Said everyday she got dozens of similar post:
Yes, she blocked them, yes her ads said no chitchat. No she didn’t charge a deposit, which was what left her open to all these fake booking.
This is part and parcel of what to expect if they are in this trade what? genuine people will still come along and make bookings, these trolls can just be ignored/blocked
I do have SG FL friends who encounter this on a daily basis but they have grown used to it and still continue to have a decent amount of bookings from new/regular clients alike.