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chances of male to female hiv is 1 in 2500, i.e. 0.04% chance(not encouraging anyone to go raw) and the most important thing is you went for pep in less than 72 hours. Which almost eliminates any chance of it happening to you, can consider it virtually impossible. Any other stds, they are very much curable, just inconveniences.
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Great that youre abstaining sex with your fiance, respect there bro. But usually symptoms if any, should appear relatively soon, within 1 to 2 weeks. If your fiance starts to find it weird why you arent having sex with her, guess its very normal to sound off that you’re just stressed out (which you are) and give you sometime to adjust. Also if sex does really happen, just rmb to wear condoms. Dont have to worry, if I recall one of only the few common ones that cannot be blocked with condoms is mollascum contagiosum and that isn’t life threatening and can be freezed off in a matter of seconds. Its just pimple-like btw, so very easy to explain away, and it surfaces quite quickly, within a week.
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like what a bro said, NEVER EVER confess to it, you would destroy her life, with likelyhood of sending her down an oblivion of depression, its not about you not owning up to your shit, its about her too. Somethings are better left unsaid, just do better next time.
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Btw when you are stressed out, you’ll start getting intrusive thoughts, shit randomly popping up in your mind anytime making you worry like fuck, and if it happens to you just keep this thought in mind “this too shall pass”, take a deep breath and smile. Helped me out a lot with my panic attacks in the past (obviously cause I did the same stupid shit like you did) haha. You’re not alone.
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You’re probably an overthinker like me, trying to consider all possibilities as to how they(in this case the ML) will try to track you down, how they try to steal your info when you’re washing up. Or how they took a video or picture of your back to identify you. Or you might even think of how they might go to the hospital to take a sample of your semen from her vajayjay then turn up at your doorstep in sg to track you down, report you for rape or want you to take responsibility.
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could genuinely be a delay in their testing process since it was in the Friday evening (cannot be since I went to A&E)
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they found my blood to be reactive and was doing confirmation tests to see if it’s positive again. Then ask to do the 4th hiv test to confirm if I really have hiv
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the doctor cannot say anything that is confirmative until the results are out. Because they are not allowed to. They can only speak in plausiblities(what might happen or what might be the cause) and more than often that can scare the shit out of anyone. But its bo bian thats how it works.
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Our healthcare system despite being one of the best in the world, has its lapses. Documents get misplaced, delays happen, people are stupid etc.
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BroRelax
Doxy PEP is 72 hrs. Suggest to do full course including jab since your window period probably over.
Still within the window. So long don’t go over the 2:30pm this Monday. Will ask for the medication also. Thank you bro
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Keepchiong
Bro you’ll be alright.
Bro, it aint happening, considering the logistical challenges and the immense effort, rarely anyone is desperate enough to do so. Normally for anyone to go to that level of extremes, its only when they harbor some serious hate against you, or they are working as a fbi or some shit.
Tldr; you’re fine bro.
From the deepest part of my heart, I thank you whole heartedly for this post. I still like shit after meeting my fiancée for family dinner today and then talking about our wedding plans next year. I just felt my heart sank and I can’t bare to look at her while the guilt is eating me. I’m just trying to survive and put on a poker face. My worst fear is getting STDs like herpes and the ML finding me pregnancy. I did a simulation and odds calculation with chatgpt and they say very low for that one instance. But then again, one instance is all it takes. I’m really praying hard I don’t get anything and that within the next 2 weeks no symptoms or anything to suggest otherwise. Or else I’d be very paranoid.
But as you said bro, I might be just overthinking things but I also and weary and cautious of any symptoms going up.
Will update here after 1 week, 2 and 4 weeks.
And as always, I thank you a lot for taking your time out to type this. I’ll read your message everyday and remind myself to take it slowly
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dumbpayingsimp
In my opinion this should be something you must bring to your grave and never share to anyone you know. If you tell your fiancée, it is making yourself to feel better, to tell the truth. But in reality, you are probably gonna ruin her life as can you imagine how she will react? The worst case scenario will be to break up, and she will probably be scarred for life after hearing what you did.
I am not trying to lecture you here, but to offer you an advice to think in another perspective. You should remember this mistake and treat her better for the rest of your life.
I read through the whole thread and you are definitely overthinking way too much. You need to calm down and reorganise yourself. Shit happens and now is time to clean up. Just ensure that you do a full STD check up after 28 days upon exposure (blood + urine) to ensure you are clean. Statistically speaking HIV transmission rate will be almost 0 as you are on PEP. Just monitor any discharge for Gonorrhoea and Chlamydia. If you need a discreet clinic, feel free to PM me too. Take care and try to maintain your sanity.
Hi bro. Thanks for the reassuring words. I’m overreacting definitely. I’m trying to stay composed not for my sanity but also my fiancée’s. Idw show kiam pah face at her and then she starts asking what’s wrong. Day by day and monitor. Really hoping nothing serious 😔
Update. Just went to clinic. Apparently the doctor on Monday verbally said my test all came back clear but today I went to the specialist and they told me my hiv test hasn’t came and that it was strange. So I freaked out and ask what does it mean. He say 2 things.
He said slight chance since it’s a bit concerning that it’s been 3 days and no results yet.
Bros I’m doomed. All my other pass sex has been all protected.
Doctor asked me if I had any other prior sex experience and I say I did but that was a month ago in Phuket. But it was covered all the way. On the day I went to A&E, the doctor who requested for my blood samples was on the phone constantly arguing with someone. Overheard that there was a genuine mix up among them and that she sent a bunch of tests but the lab tech only received another. This went and forth until 1 HR later she told me that I’m all cleared and that I can go collect my medication. Don’t make sense to put me on PEP and tell me it’s cleared after a phone call only for 2 days later today, system still shows I’m pending confirmation from the specialist and he only can advise me. He said so far the instance where he got this kind of thing is the person took about 1 week to come back and he did a final test and turns out to be positive but that guy was homosexual. So he told me my case a bit weird and that there’s a slight chance depending on my exposure levels. He said to wait for the next 2-3 day to get the confirmation.
I don’t know what to think of right now. If I really get hiv from female and wearing protection then I really xia xuay. I just feel so defeated. Even after doing all the prep and I still get. 😔
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Joverick
Just stay optimistic la. Believe in statistics. Why keep thinking you are the 0.04% (previous bro quote; and it’s for raw encounter). So if you are protected, take it as 0.02%. Odds for you to be safe is 99.98% sia.
Is the way the 2nd doctor sounded that is concerning. He said the only time it was like that and it turned out to be positive. Which means most of the time people don’t get this delayed pending confirmation. And also prior to my stupidity on Friday afternoon, I actually went to a private clinic to do a hiv test as well in the morning just for that one time I did in Phuket with condom on vaginal sex with an ML. No condom for bj. They haven’t gotten back to me with the results as well. Checked with them what’s with the delay, they told me my test was only sent to the lab last Friday afternoon and that they said generally labs aren’t open on the weekends. Clearly not when it did for me at the A&E.
I don’t know bro. The timing and the delayed results like no coincidence. And like I said, if I do really get it I’m literally that 0.04%. Never did drugs, no sharing needles, no unprotected sex other than that 1 time, no gay sex either. Perfectly straight male. I just feel like in the next 2 days I will know the results and I’m panicking. I skipped meals. I can’t even eat. I just feel like I will die once they tell me on the phone it’s positive which I’m assuming might be, if not why the delay.
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Keepchiong
Bro. Like what all bros is sharing over here. We all can confirm plus chop you didnt kena. HIV literally cannot replicate this fast to be show up in a blood test.
You need to understand 2 things
Unless, unless you really had prior raw experiences and you haven’t been honest to us, then you literally cannot kena hiv like this.
Or if your experience in phuket had a condom breakage or with slipoff. Try recalling if your condom was full with your sperm or not when you removed it in phuket. If yes, then you are fine.
If you really kena, all of us need to go buy toto alr. The impossible just happened.
Btw what the specialist might also be sharing is a theoretical possibility. I.e. it has never happened before. Let me elaborate. If you read up the hiv transmission table, unprotected receptive oral sex has a small % chance of happening, but it has never happened before in all tracked medical history where an actual transmission through unprotected receptive oral sex happened.
So again, the doctor or specialist need to let you know the THEORETICAL chance.
But if you really kena, let us know. We all go buy toto and if we tio, we contribute a bit to your lifelong meds.
From what I can recall, all my other encounters are protected. If it wasn’t, I would have ran straight first to A&E. The time I finished in Phuket at the MP, I saw the lady removed my condom and it looks to be intact. Although a bit loose. Now I’m doubting all my other experiences if I my cd did broke afterall. 😔
Now I freaking out if that could have been how it was transmitted. Like honestly why does it take so long for both clinics to provide me with the test results. It usually means that it’s positive and they are doing a western blood clot test to confirm before letting the lowdown on me. Either way, ill give updates within the next few days. Statistically I’m fine but I don’t know.
Now I’m thinking of how to even tell my fiancée if I really contracted it. And if she’s willing to forgo all our wedding, housing, and financial arrangements. Haiz i even imagining her crying from what I said. I just don’t know how to proceed in life with this result. I really can’t even function. Told my work colleagues I’ll be taking long leave to go overseas abruptly but I’m actually at home just crying in bed and thinking what to do with my miserable life. I fucked up so much but this one is the big one. I sincerely have no idea how to carry on and am just waiting for the impending call from both private and the infectious disease doctor of my positive HIV status ☹️ Jin jialat bro
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BroRelax
Your test is only accurate to minus 14 days from the time you took your blood test if you go for the best test, ie Gen 4 testing.
You must take the PEP for 28 days as this is for your latest exposure which your test would not have shown.
Which is why I’m freaking out. 1 month before which is 30 days, I did protected sex in Phuket and now they told me results is pending confirmation. This the baseline test they did. No idea why first doc cleared me but 2nd say system still shows pending. And it’s pending, I suspet they found someone. Haiz
To all the bros here. I’ll update again what my status by tmr or wed. If I do contract hiv, then Its really xia suey alr. Straight male, no drugs, protected sex with ML except that one time but am on PEP after doing.
To recap. Did baselines test on Friday evening. Doc 1 say clear. Schedule appointment for doc 2 specialist on Monday. Come Monday, doc 2 say my hiv status shows pending confirmation. Proceeds to tell me what happens if this instance and its somewhat concerning or unusual.
Now anxiously waiting for results. I guess if it really tio this virus, in really that 0.04% guy.
Wish me luck
Morning y’all still waiting for my results and it’s taking forever to be released. Not very optimistic cause of 2nd doc answers and more alarming, the private clinic still hasn’t given my results yet as well. I feel like absolute shit right now. I haven’t eaten anything since lunch yesterday and I’m in so much anxiety. My gut feeling is telling me I am positive despite trying to stay protected (except that time but am on pep now).
I don’t know how to react to this. My family, my fiancée, my future kids, my future all burned down cause of some stupid acts I did. And even so, I don’t know how I contracted it given that all were with condom but 1 isnt. And it’s all women. Fuck man. No one should feel like this. It’s the absolute worst thing anyone can ask for. No known results and delays just feel like the inevitable is waiting to happen. I just feel like I’ve let everyone down cause of my dumb decision. And now I’m paying the biggest price despite all the odds being in favour and still tio hiv. Fml. I want to relax also cannot relax. My mind Is racing with how to answer and how to navigate through this. Im just venting out my frustration cause it never enough. I did all I can and still fall short. Life is cruel